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I'm sure most if not all of you are anti vax but I was curious to hear your opinions on this. What is the possibility it could cause autism and other debilitating side effects ?
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Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 16 points (+0 / -0 / +16Score on mirror ) 2 children
I didn't vaccinate my children. They're fine.

No problems. Just eat healthy food, grow vegetables, don't use poisonous products, etc

Vaccines are junk. People survived thousands of years without them.

Life spans in America are actually declining. So stop doing what most Americans do.

Keep the child isolated from sick kids or dirty foreign kids
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
I vaccinated my children and they both got Scarlet Fever. Vaccination is no guarantee they won't get something else, either.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7268563/
LilyVargas on scored.co
1 year ago 9 points (+0 / -0 / +9Score on mirror ) 2 children
Do research. Read the Consumer Medicines Information (CMI) pamphlets AND the Production Information (PI) sheets. Go find the official safety studies and read them (use sci-hub if you run into paywalls). It's been a few years since I did my research so please tell me if you find a study that uses a proper placebo like saline (or even like vitamin C). Like ANY one at all.

 All the ones I've seen use that same vaccine they are testing minus the virus bit (so all the adjuvants and preservatives) or another vaccine. I would vaccinate if it was the old fashioned just a tiny bit of disease, but it's all the extra crap that is the problem.

If you still want to vaccinate, try and see if you can find a safety study that compares children that got all the vaccines vs those who got none. See if you can find a safety study on children who got more then one vaccine at a time or in short succession. The combos like MMR vaccine are worse then taking Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccines with recovery times in between.
Dps1879 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Lol recovery times.
LilyVargas on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
What's funny about that? After you get sick your immune system needs time to recover, same with after a vaccination.
Dps1879 on scored.co
1 year ago 9 points (+0 / -0 / +9Score on mirror ) 1 child
Hint: no vaccines have placebo studies. The whole sham would fall apart immediately.
LilyVargas on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Ding ding ding!!!! 🔔🔔🔔
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7268563/
LilyVargas on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Thanks. I have read that one before (May 2020) as it was mid-late 2020 I stopped researching.
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror )
Do you want a dead child?
detransthrowaway on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 3 children
Vaccinated is a broad term here. What are you getting him vaccinated FOR? Go as slowly and as deliberately as they will ever let you, and then try a little harder. Kids born today will get 34+ before they turn 5 years old. I'm only 15 and I'm pretty sure I received a dozen or less. My grandpa probably got about three by that age. I'd say get it done for the things that can harm him the most; MMR, DTaP, Chickenpox. Do NOT give him the Covid shot or the flu shot. I and everyone I know have a direct correlation with skipping the flu shot and not getting the flu, it gets worse every time and could cause brain damage or death.

You do not need:
 3 HepB shots
3 Rotavirus shots
5 DTaP shots
3 Influenza B shots
4 PCV shots
4 Polio shots
2 MMR shots
2 Varicella shots
2 Hep A shots
4-5 flu shots

TL;DR It's complicated, I'd look at schedules in other countries and determine from there what's best. Don't give flu shot though, and please be careful with him. If he'll be going to a public school or another place where he'll interact with a large group of kids I'd maybe advise having several more because it's piss-easy to get sick from some random niglet, and if he won't be, then take more caution because his immune system won't have as much exposure and you could risk having something resembling an immune disorder.
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john844 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Didn't know either, some went very hard on him over a year ago.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
>Chickenpox

Lol, wut? Everyone used to get Chickenppx as a kid and hardly anyone had permanent damage. It's only dangerous now because everyone is vaxxing their kids so no one catches it young (like polio and measles).

My kids aren't vaxxed for this despite having almost everything else recommended; if they don't catch it naturally by 18, maybe then.
detransthrowaway on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 3 children
Doesn't it give you shingles later in life or am I misremembering?
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Dps1879 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Shingles didn't exist until the vax
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
The vaccine causes worse shingles outbreaks than just getting cpox tho. You're not escaping the risk with the jab
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Our son is unvax and hes healthier than all the vaxxed kids. We let him basically play with anyone (not honeless weirdos, ghetto brats) so i dont think you need to shelter kids until they are actually sick and they can recover at home past a fever etc.

In your post, imo, You are right until you mentioned MMR and dtap as dangerous. If you go to even wikipedia read about how rare severe illness is for these diseases. Measles is not dangerous. Mumps isn't either. And rubella is only dangerous for some pregnant women who contract it and can hurt the baby in utero.

Chicken pox is not dangerous to children and the vaccine has shown correlation with shingles reoutbreak in old people which is much more dangerous.

Dtp is a mixed bag and Im not sure off the top of my head except that diphtheria is rare and most cases are asymptomatic, pertussis is fatal in less than a percent of children that contract it under a year old, tetanus is quite sketchy however and would consider the vaccine for this above the others.

The question to really ask though, is do these vaccines even work? And for how long? They say you are supposed to get boosters for instance, for tetanus every 10 years. And I have not. Yet I haven't gotten tetanus.
detransthrowaway on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Thanks for the response, I must admit my knowledge is VERY limited and flawed. Tetanus though I do agree in that matter, it's no joke and probably one of the scariest diseases out there. I'm wary about vaccines like many, but if I touch a rusty nail I'm hauling ass to a clinic.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Tetanus seems to exist in soil everywhere so we probably just develop immunity at some point. Idk much either tbh. But my logic is: if you are arguing for an intervention, you must make the case to do it. We are living with the reverse where the intervention (vaccinating) is the standard and we must make the case not to do it. Its an inversion of the scientific principles of proving assertions.
Tap_isarealboy on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 3 children
I've vaxxed two of my kids on schedule to age six. One to age two. And two have received zero.

I don't know what advice to offer. I'm sometimes scared for what diseases they could acquire due to the sheer number of illegal shit skins that live in this area.

I'd also lose my soul if one of my kids were vaccinated and they succumbed to SIDS.

The life of a parent is questioning all of your decisions.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
The problem is the vaccines don't seem to offer much protection. The really nasty shit we can get won't be covered by these shots anyway. That's my generalization. And I think it's imperative to keep our kids away from diseased immigrants. I had to keep my son from playing with some Hindoo kids because they looked diseased. Seemed like nice kids but sick looking.
Tap_isarealboy on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
We had a pediatrician once that gave us the protective percentages so we could be maximally informed. I can't remember which ones but some of the multi-dose like Hep B had a schedule of like five doses but couldn't offer more than 80% protection after two. They have diminishing returns.

Where I struggle is the longevity of such vaccines. You can only have a fixed amount of antibodies in your blood. And it makes no sense why your body would be in constant production for a disease that you aren't infected with or why it would produce anything at all sans infection.

Thankfully we are moving away to a town that is 90%+ rural white farmers. Still some spics but far far less than where we currently live.
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Fabius on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Based and true.
Hullohoomans on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
No.

I will never take another vaccine, for the rest of my life.
Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
NO. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES FOR ANY DISEASE
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Do you have any experience not vaccinating children or yourself in oregon? Are you legally allowed exemptions? I know in Cali they won't let you exempt anymore.
Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Homeschooled children are not required toa dhere to.the poison schedule. Im, not sure how my mother did ti but I recoeved almost zero vaccinations despite attending public school for most of my life, so there is a way around it, but you'll have to play the bullshit and time wasting game.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
I miss Oregon but I don't want to raise my kids somewhere just to get CPS called on me for something like that. Idk.
Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
In the vast majority of Oregon that won't happen to you. Basically everything south and east of portland is very comservative
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Unfortunately Portland seems to control state affairs.
Knight_Of_Saint_John on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
You wanna give them autism?
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Or asthma, or GI issues?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7268563/
BlackPillBot on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
After what they pulled recently, I wouldn’t. With that said, it seems that the schedule they had before 1984 was less harmful from what I’ve been explained by a buddy of mine and wife who’s hobby is vaccines. It makes sense, because that around the time autism and adhd bullshit started to become the norm, and explode. That also coincides with my late gen x early millennial experience growing up. I don’t know man, but I will say if you teach your child at a young age to get sunlight regularly, and how to eat relatively decent foods your kid will be superhuman compared to most peoples kids today. Good luck, and God speed.
Formerlurker92 on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Which vaccine are you considering? Ask for the efficacy study for the batch. Ask your doctor who the manufacturer is of the type you are getting. "Polio vaccine" is used interchangeably, but there's 6 of them in my state alone. They are not created equally
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
I did, but if I did it all again, I probably wouldn't.

The first thing to note is that there is almost no disease that's more dangerous to a child than an adult, so why get anything at 4 months? Anything he'll get, he'll likely survive (might have to deal with some bitching at a hospital visit, maybe not) and gain natural immunity, which works better than the shots. Polio, measles, and chicken pox all used to be endemic in children, and only dangerous in adults, but now we need to vaccinate because everyone else is. If you're going to do it, wait at least until he's in his teens.

Second, check the research shot by shot, brand by brand. I was supposed to get the mennengitis shot for my son but a review of the available research led me to beleive that these shots, while nominally effective against a given strain, actually result in a **higher** rate of disease in **other** strains. Read between the lines.

Third, which shots are for diseases that are actually dangerous? HPV for boys makes little sense. Hep only makes sense if you're going to be sharing needles. Chicken pox isn't even dangerous to kids (probably the same for polio and measles, but I never had those). I had the mumps as a kid with no permanent damage.

Tl;dr: I'm not a doctor, nor am I responsible for your kids. Do the reading and decide what's best for your family.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
This is exactly my approach. They basically don't offer much protection at best, cause adverse effects at worse, and ultimately most childhood diseases are not an issue if you have a healthy baby.

A healthy baby is one that is: breastfed by a mother eating a healthy balanced nurtrient rich diet, for a couple years almost. Introducing nutrient rich solids to the baby with breastmilk starting at 6ish months. The baby should also cosleep to be close with mom and or dad. No isolated other room sleeping. And the baby should not be washed too much with antibacterial soaps etc. Just when they are dirty, as most people over scrub newborns and disrupt healthy biofilm, such as the vernix caseosum which is found at birth.
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Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Measles isn't very dangerous even if your child got it. As long as they are well fed and cared for, at least.
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Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
We did the k shot, no antibiotics in eyes. We did some d drops we bought ourselves the first few days. Most of that stuff is for unhealthy formula fed messed up kids. erythromycin in the eyes for std ridden moms for instance.

I recommend a birth center with a midwife. I found a good balance there and hospital if necessary. But the biggest issue is the dad is going to have to wake up and do some research and be ready to defend when his wife and child is exhausted and unable to advocate for herself.

Most dads are too busy watching sports and making money and are happy to abdicate responsibility to doctors.
AndurilElessar on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
I grew up in a religious community whose beliefs were never to see a licensed medical doctor of any kind. My grandmother had 8 children. All at home and all lived full lives. My grandmother herself lived to be 98, having never gone to a doctor in her entire life.
Ninjatacos on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
3 kids. 0 vaccines. Healthy as horses on ivermectin.

Vaccines are another jewish lie. Germ theory of disease being complete horseshit is also something I'm beginning to come around to. Louie Pastuer is a faggot and Antone Bechamp was right.
KingSweyn on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
How about wait until a) he has an immune system and b) is old enough to decide for himself

The question you have to ask yourself: "should I trust my son's life to Big Pharma?" When they have a vested interest in causing lifelong chronic ailments?
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
OP read this book, its eye opening.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/760587.Raising_a_Vaccine_Free_Child
Necalli on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Short answer: No.

Longer answer: There's literally no disease worth a damn that could realistically affect your child. I've never received a single vaccine in my life. There's 0 benefit. Risk? Sudden Infant Death Syndrome wasn't a thing until baby's started getting vaccinated.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
There are some diseases like tetanus that are sketchy and dangerous, however to what degree is the vaccine effective?
NiggerWithAForklift on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
I'd wait until they're a bit older
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
My plan is when my children at 15 they can weigh in and choose for themselves. I'm not messing with their bodies because the local authority says so. I work in health care and I don't trust the system in the slightest.
ChargedUpCharger on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
I gave my first most vaccines and he developed ezema. I Regretted it. Gave my second none, shes doing great . You can always decide to give them to your son later. Most of the toxic effects have a dose/weight effect so the longer you wait the less damaging they will be. Look at the package inserts and safety studies for each vaccine. Look at the ingredients (particularly aluminum adjuvants). Look at the prevalence of the disease and the fatality rate when it's contracted. It will take a few hours, but the long term health of your son is at stake.
Lundynne on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
The possibility is non zero. The question you should be asking is what are the benefits? How much will getting the vaccine reduce the risk of disease, if at all? Is such a reduction worth the increased risk of SIDS?

At the end of the day, it is your choice, and you have to do your own risk assessment.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Start at this premise: how dangerous are the illnesses you would vaccinate against? If dangerous, second, how effective are the vaccines against the illness? If effective, how dangerous are the side effects of the vaccines?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7268563/
Oldpederaulfuerte on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
No.
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Byzantine_Shill on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Depends on the vaccine but I wouldn’t trust big pharma after 2020. Introducing weak or dead viruses was supposed to provide immunity. Now vaccines are being switched with mRNA vaccines which were responsible for heart attacks in young adults and children.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/babies-died-pfizer-moderna-covid-19-mrna-vaccine-flu-vaccine-died-sids/5842782

The COVID vaccine was just a trial run for many things. One of these things was using mRNA and it’s planned to be used for all future immunizations.

Edit: Also any vaccines using fetal cells is immoral and shouldn’t be taken. You should avoid those regardless of who made them.
Beebenheimer on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I'd give this bait a 6/10.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
You can get away with not vaxxing if you either avoid other people or live where everyone is vaxxed. I wouldnt at this point, theyve been increasingly screwing with the vaxxes to add fetal cells and heavy metals. What theyre doing can hardly be considered vaccination, its just injecting people with poison to use the vaccines as an excuse. If your worried about a disease, research the vaccine your kid will get and make sure it doesnt use (((fetal cells))). I think another huge issue with vaccines is how many they do at once.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Vaccinated people are just sicker. You want to live among healthy, clean, naturally immunized people.
PurestEvil on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Well, it's a risk either way. I assume they want to give him dozens of vaccines, so ask your doctor to name the 5 most important ones. Or just do 0.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
I asked my pediatric doctor to give me the case for vaccinating and he didn't give any info. They just follow the schedule. Sad because I actually want a data driven conversation about such an important topic.
PurestEvil on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
That's fair too. If none of them know, and it's something like "tradition" and peer pressure, don't do it. It's possible that that has been abused to capitalize on that, and abuse the fact that nobody knows and nobody asks.

For fuck's sake, one must be willing and able to talk about topics that concern them. For example I believe flat Earthers are completely nuts. I can prove my points in many ways, and debate them, without being insulting. I expect doctors, who are supposedly intelligent, to have the same intellectual capacity to do that about vaccines, if they believe they are important to be had.

I am tired of these pseudo-intellectual idiots who hide behind a wall of censorship and ridicule, so that they can get away with NEVER addressing these points. This is pure sophistry and intellectual laziness - cowardice even.

I can openly talk about ANY topic btw. I do not impose emotional trickery or taboos. And the possibility to change my mind is always there, even though I am stubborn and confident. All it takes are good arguments, and if given, it can take mere seconds. Emotional manipulation and logical fallacies don't work on me and merely raises suspicion to the credibility of the person doing these.
derkevevin on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Are you talking about real vaccines, or just the chink flu clot shot (((vaccines)))?
I have mixed feelings about real vaccines, since they seem to make sense in concept and in history, but nowadays could still be tampered with to intentionally harm the population (example: order tetanus shot and receive tetanus shot + mystery surprise).
But the clot shot, that shit is simply of the devil.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
The only reason people believe is the older vaccines is because they didn't research them. Nobody ever questioned them en masse until the coof jabs were so ridiculous. Revisit older vaccines you took for granted.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7268563/
Fabius on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
All vaccines have an element of risk to them.

The older vaccines are real vaccines that actually immunize you. Because of vaccines, infant mortality has dropped due to these older diseases like measles, etc.

With herd immunity, you will probably - probably - be safe from these diseases in that they have been largely eradicated in civilized countries.

Ultimately it's a choice you'll have to make for your own kid. I vaccinated my kid from the rough stuff, and plan on getting him the HPV vax when he's older. Fuck flu shots and the other horseshit that doesn't do anything.
Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
You are repeating what we are told about vaccination, not reading data. What's the rate of severe illness and death from measles for instance? Its not even dangerous.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7268563/
albatrosv15 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Yes, give them 100 shots at least before getting to year 2. This way you get the ultimate npc batch.
Dps1879 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
My answer is best fit into this meme..so far. My answer is no. It will provide zero benefit to the child or humanity.

https://images.app.goo.gl/L3K6VEdLzC5MRmXi9
Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Normie family vaxxed their kids and they froze in time!!
 https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/19A0y9JAAb/normie-family-vaxxed-their-kids-/c
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Kopkot on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Mumps and rubella aren't dangerous for kids. Rubella is only dangerous if pregnant mothers get it for their kid in utero. Why vaccinate a child for that?
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tacohell on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Yeah polio is scary because of the oral vaccinations they give overseas that can infect non vaccinated individuals. It happened in New York a few years ago (Hasidic community of course) and a kid died. Meningitis and some others are scary too. The problem is that they put six to eight vaccines in one injection now and that’s not healthy at all.
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