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The brotherhood of Saturn leading you = the jews leading you. They are the same thing. Saturn is the god of Judaism, Masons (the compass is just the Star of Chiun), most of the major occult fraternities. He is the perversion of God, duality, good and evil and eats his own children, which is why these people "become like god" by being above morality, practice the occult with things like Kabbalah. They simply don't give a fuck about kids, diddling kids killing innocents. Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law.
The Catholic Church at this point is probably the beast from the sea (Holy See) in Revelation, who gets people to worship the first beast/jewish king. They are the only organized religion with the power to deceive and they already have been selling Edomites as "jews" and saying retarded shit like Jesus was jewish.
https://www.catholic.com/qa/if-jesus-was-a-jew-why-are-we-catholic
Example is that article. Everything in that article is a lie and the Jewish religion didn't even exist at the time of Christ. There was no written Talmud and Judaism wasn't close to a complete religion until the middle ages when they were openly occult kabbalists (which is why our European ancestors called then a CABAL) and their most studied rabbi's wrote child diddler nonsense like Ishut 3 verse 11 that you can read on their own site like Chabad. They were killing Christian kids like Simon of Trent, with many in the Church at the time calling them out and now that same Church tells you that the Church in the past were liars and tried to sell bullshit like blood libel?
Only the forerunners of "Judaism" existed at the time of Christ (and he hated them and spoke against them on numerous occasions) and they were called the Pharisees who claimed an oral Torah that hadn't even been written yet and that the priests and nobility Sadducees who had to be from certain tribes and lineages to even be priests, said didn't exist. The early Church fathers warned about jews, called out jews REPEATEDLY. The current Catholic Church might as well be a synagogue.
Any Christian Church who says "Jesus was Jewish" is a synagogue. It's a completely compromised religion led by someone who has read the bible, has the JOB of studying the bible and knows what it says and sells you the opposite.
It took me one read of the bible to realize jews were the Synagogue of Satan after being brought up in a religion that said Israel fulfilled prophecy, bless Israel blah blah, when all of that is a lie. They are the robbers of thy people, Edom and they honor Herod the Great in Israel as a jew, even though he was from Edom and put Hebrew kids to death trying to kill the messiah as an infant.
No one can read the bible and not realize the jewish king is the antichrist, Babylon the Great is in big part the Catholic Church that sits on the cit of 7 hills (Rome), the jewish goal is to build a third temple that rejects the body of Christ as temple and that spiritual Israel is what matters (and is what the bless Israel scripture now refers to) and not a people that were scattered to the wind or Edomites claiming to be jews that they never even did until recently. The rabbis 200 years ago wrote they were Edomites, knew they were Edomites and still know they were Edomite Pharisees who tried to gain power with BS claims of a oral Torah in a land they were refugees in.
If you still think the Catholic Church is Christianity you are completely lost and will be as manipulated as Poland will be. You put men between you God and the WORD. The entire reason Jesus died was so that you didn't need that middle men which went bad throughout history and lost the right to lead. The priests, the kings, they were a lost cause and he said from the start I AM YOUR KING, but I will give you a king and he will take your women, your stuff on and on. He let people make mistakes to prove they weren't cut out to rule. Jesus said he is high priest, king and you are all brothers.
So what did Jesus mean by this?
\>And I also say to you that you are Peter [petros], and on this rock [petra] I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it
Was Jesus leaving a church with no leadership? That doesn't seem right. Clearly God understood the importance of the physical world and human leadership if He sent His only Son to be the High Priest. He knew He would die for mankind, so He chose Simon Peter to continue His work. So if Peter was/is the first leader of the Christian church in the form in which it existed for about 1,000 years (which is the root of Catholicism)... I don't see how you can say priests were a lost cause. God used prophets all through the Bible and never denounced them (the true prophets of course; false prophets are denounced everywhere).
Jesus ripped on the Pharisees and Sadducees because they basically jew'd the law - they would do things like, rather than caring for their parents in old age (honoring their father and mother), they would make a sacrifice and claim they did it for their parents so they wouldn't have to actually support their parents financially or whatever, and they paid their tithe at the same time. Seeking loopholes like modern jews do (like the fucking string around NYC). But He never ripped on anyone just for being a priest; He TOLD His disciples to go out and spread the Word!
You've got a lot of half right going in your response. You could even claim the Catholics are becoming a lot like the Pharisees and Sadducees (and therefore modern jews) in their obsession with procedure starting to overcome the focus on God... sort of. As James said, "faith without works is dead," so there *is* something to *how* we worship that matters. While *how* we worship is important, it's at least equally as important that we don't lose sight of *why* and *who* we're worshipping. I.e. the *how* is important because we shouldn't, y'know, perform blood sacrifices of our children even though our focus is on the one true God, because that's not what He wants. So that would be a perversion.
Anyway I don't mean to prattle on. You've got some salient points, but Christ absolutely endorsed the existence of religious authorities. From His own mouth personally (again, disciples, and again, "Upon this rock I will build my church") as well as all throughout the Bible.
\* So hey maybe instead of downvote brigading like a pRedditor you could, I don't know, refute anything I've said? Or are you just another viper from the den spreading half truths?
You DID need the Church at the foundation because you needed the bible canon, to throw away the works Satan and his followers, gnostics were desperately trying to include like Apocrypha, the idea that there was a holy royal line from Jesus that they could use to control and exploit.
The idea that the ancient Church resembled the modern Church though is fairy tale. When John is shown the modern Church in wealth and red and purple he is astounded and shocked.
The Church worked with the jews to even stop their competition who were wannabe kabbalah, two men on a horse faggot occult bankers called things like the Templars.
jews owe their current power to the Church. The Church should never allowed the "court jew", never allowed them to practice usury anywhere (and they did protect the people from this at one time). They were simply corrupted and became a whore.
>You DID need the Church at the foundation because you needed the bible canon
Wait, so "middle men" were needed until some arbitrary point? I dunno man, seems like the Bible you've read has probably several hundred "middle men" who have translated it into a language that you can understand. And if they're all corrupt, then necessarily so is your interpretation. Unless, of course, you've read the original Hebrew, Latin, Greek, and Aramaic texts. kek of course I know you haven't.
>The idea that the ancient Church resembled the modern Church though is fairy tale
I think literally 0 people believe this. The church in Jesus' time was different from the church in Moses' time, and no one thought it some profound observation to say so. It had evolved through interpretations from the prophets, kings (David in particular), exiles (particularly the exiles, when temple worship went away, particularly because Nebuchadnezzar destroyed it), etc.
You use a lot of words to say very little of substance. I guess I was wrong with my initial assessment. I don't think any of your words are worth half a damn.
Do not call yourself rabbi teacher and father.
You follow people who wear Cappello Romano Saturn worship hats, who enable and protect child predators and who try to validate the synagogue of Satan (Judaism).
You might as well be MAGA.
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I hate Earth more!
No, the post-Vatican II Church is not really the Catholic Church anymore, that's the problem. It doesn't teach the Catholic faith anymore, at least in large parts.
Luther was the one who first chose the Judaist canon over the Church-defined one, he was the first Judaizer so to speak - not to mention the judaized Scofield Bible, the root of Protestant dispensationalism and "rapture" theology.
Catholic states like Spain kicked the Jews out many times. The Jews very well knew this and they were displeased - so they infiltrated the hierarchy from the inside, through the seminaries, from the 1700s onward. [There's a good writeup here of how they did it](https://dubia.cc/en/who-we-are).
There are still Catholics who will speak out against the Jews, but obviously, since the mainstream Church was taken over, they are persecuted.
> Babylon the Great is in big part the Catholic Church that sits on the cit of 7 hills (Rome),
That reference likely refers to Pagan Rome, not Catholic Rome.
> You put men between you God and the WORD.
No, that's a Lutheran invention.
It is very obvious that you need people to interpret scripture if a group of people are supposed to agree on anything. Before 1054, there was only the Catholic Church, there was no "Southern Baptist McPastor" who interpreted the Bible how he liked it (also, there was no Bible, the Bible came from the Catholic Church).
Lutherans disagree with Calvinists, who disagree with Anglicans, who disagree with Baptists, etc. "Sola scriptura" is a retarded concept because you can contradict Christ with the gospel if you really wanted to. It's obvious that there has to be an authoritative magisterium that interprets scripture, defines what even belongs to the Bible and what doesn't, etc. Luther just ursuped that authority and made himself the authority. Every single Protestant Church teaches something else and they are only united in "we are not Catholics".
Also, the "WORD" doesn't refer to the written scripture (which didn't even exist for the first 300 years and most people couldn't read), it refers to the LOGOS, Jesus himself, the Word become flesh, i.e. the Eucharist. To say that Catholics put men between the Logos and them is retarded. At every (valid) Mass we eat the real body, blood and divinity of Christ, according to John 6 ("this IS my body"). So those men bring us closer to God, they don't stand between us and God. Similar thing for confession: it's a useless act without repentance first. Etc.
To say that the priests block us from our connection with God is completely retarded. I say this as a former Protestant. The CC is merely a continuation of the OT, but with the perfect sacrifice (which is Jesus in the Eucharist, according to John 6).
> The entire reason Jesus died was so that you didn't need that middle men which went bad throughout history and lost the right to lead.
No, it was to even make it possible to atone for the original sin of Adam. He never said there will never be bad people in the Church or that everyone should interpret scripture in his bedroom however he / she likes. Sola scriptura is nowhere in the bible (neither is sola fide).
He even instituted a "middle man" called Peter in Matthew 16:18. The apostles, did they not exist or what? Jesus very well wanted us to confess our sins to men (Matthew 16:19, Matthew 18:18), those sentences would have no sense otherwise.
Now you could say that the pope lost his office because of his heresy (sedevacantism). Well, I just say he lost the authority, as the job description of the papacy is to "safeguard and keep Tradition". Right now the current pope is writing up a new Mass for climate change, which is absolutely nowhere in Tradition. So, we just don't follow him for now, but it doesn't invalidate all Catholic teaching.
> Example is that article. Everything in that article is a lie and the Jewish religion didn't even exist at the time of Christ.
Not everything in the article is a lie and yes, the Jewish (i.e. Torah) religion very well existed at the time of Christ, not sure where you got your history from. Jesus even taught in the temple to the rabbis, he knew Jewish law very well.
The article is wrong to merely see modern kabbalistic Judaism as "less perfect Judaism". The Jews killed Christ and then turned into the worst persecutors of Catholics, i.e. Anti-Christians. Jews were cursed and the Catholic Church is the only true continuation of the Old Testament Religion, but with the new, perfect sacrifice, which is Christ himself.
The article you posted is correct in that the Catholic Church is the continuation of the Law of Moses. "I came to fulfil the law, not to change it", said Jesus. Open any confession manual, it's just the 10 commandments, that's it. Jesus never abrogated or changed the 10 commandments. And we still need to keep the 10 commandments, they are not abrogated (Phillipians 2:12).
You should know that Trent Horn, the person who runs Catholic Answers is a Jew. So, he's a Judaist infiltrator speaking on behalf of Catholicism. He represents modernist, judaized Catholicism, which is NOT traditional Catholicism. The Jews tried many times over the centuries to infiltrate the Church, in the 1960s they sadly succeeded. Still, they failed to extinguish Catholicism entirely.
In other words, you are attacking "Catholicism" by reading what a Jewish "Catholic" writes about Catholicism. The current hierarchy is infiltrated by Jews, modernists, freemasons and communists. It doesn't invalidate Catholicism, it just makes it harder to find the truth.
> and that spiritual Israel is what matters (and is what the bless Israel scripture now refers to)
Half correct. There is no "spiritual Israel". The Catholic Church (the mystical body of its members, not the hierarchy per se) is the new Israel, after the Jews killed their king. Everyone who holds the Catholic Faith is part of that "Israel".
> Jesus said he is high priest, king and you are all brothers.
Correct. The pope is merely the vicar (= vice president) of the Church. Doesn't mean that there are no priests or bishops anymore (ex. 1 Timothy 5:22 clearly shows the institution of a bishop).