1 year ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)1 child
The price of a manufactured home out in the desert of my home state has more than doubled over the past five years. There's no such thing as cheap housing anymore, just "cheaper than $200k housing". Pay $500k in a city or $100k in the middle of nowhere, either way you're getting jewed.
My parents bought our family home in the early 1980s at 30% interest. They couldn't afford it even though my dad was an engineer, and he was making as much money as lawyers and doctors and dentists. They were sinking and losing net wealth while giving birth to their 6th-8th kids. He couldn't even get raises while inflation soared past 20% under Carter and the early Reagan years.
I remember the first real Christmas present I got in 1984 - a transformer. My dad was able to finally buy us kids gifts for Christmas. He said something like he finally felt like we might not grow up poor.
Again - you guys think life sucks because 2016-2020 was so good. Go back in time and 2020-2024 wasn't that bad.
One other note: my dad told me he had been working in his engineer career for years before he felt comfortable buying a Diet Coke every lunch. He has been saving every penny until he finally felt like he could afford such a luxury.
Your story is not believable. 30% interest on a mortgage? Engineer making as much money as doctors?
You're also delusional. I don't think the economy is bad now because "2016-2020 was so good". I think it's bad because it seemed comparatively good throughout my childhood, teens, and early 20s (so I'm talking 90s, 2000s, early 2010s). And sure you could say as a kid I didn't have a good grasp on the economy. But I grew up in a four bedroom house in the suburbs with a stay at home mom and a dad making slightly above the average American salary, and dozens of families in the same neighborhood in the same situation. We always had birthday gifts, Christmas gifts, parties, ate out periodically, went on vacations, etc. And when younger families would move into the neighborhood, with couples that were only maybe 10 years older than me, they were living that exact same life. But by the mid 2010s it wasn't really happening anymore. I skipped college, but many of my peers who went came back without good job prospects. The ones who did get "good" jobs could barely afford to move out. I was only able to afford to move out because I worked my ass off doing overtime and avoided spending money on anything. I saved for nearly 10 years hoping to be able to buy a house, but ended up ditching a quarter of my savings on a minimalist wedding. I could have easily spent half of my savings if I wanted the kind of wedding our families expected us to have. That was a few years ago and since then, inflation has gotten so bad and wages have been so stagnant that I haven't even been able to re-save that money. My savings have been stagnant for over 3 years. I have a son now and we still can't afford to buy a house, any house, even if my wife is working, because the cost of homes has gone up so much and the few affordable homes have 20 offers over asking that outbid us. I simply don't understand how you can be so blind as to not see how fucked the job market and cost of living is now.
1 year ago11 points(+0/-0/+11Score on mirror)3 children
Not even close to being true. Maybe when the inflation actually decreased in the mid-2000s when the purchasing power of a dollar was nearly at parity with 1985.
My favorite comparison is Gatorade. Water, fruit juice, sugar, sodium, potassium.
At one point they were using brominated vegetable oil because of the government subsidies making it actually profitable rather than costing money to use just water.
1 year ago6 points(+0/-0/+6Score on mirror)1 child
None of that post matters, because everything listed is insignificant bullshit to overall QOL. The most important part is left out. They weren’t forced to live, and work around violent niggers in any large significant number which also, COHENcidentally, allowed them to live in neighborhoods, and areas where you likely wouldn’t even need one car, to get to anything you needed to while also not fearing being killed by said niggers while walking, and/or riding a bike to your nearby destination all at a reasonable price. Now you’re forced to pay way more than they did to live around copious amounts of niggers if you dare to live within 45 minutes to an hour of most shopping centers, and businesses. So living outside of a nigger infested area(25% or more) means you have to have at least one vehicle, and now most households are two income which means you’ll need another vehicle. These idiots really never stop to think about anything anymore, because honestly, there’s no reason for them to. Most “got theirs”, and are now saying fuck everyone else, but they also refuse to live around niggers, and can afford not to, but will shit on others for complaining they have to. They do all of this while basically telling younger gens to JUST pull up your bootstraps, and work harder so you’re not poor, and can afford to move away from niggers. It’s all so tiresome.
1 year ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)2 children
Exactly, so many more things have a price now that didn't before and what already had a price is comically overpriced.
Did boomers have to pay $5 every time they wanted to go to a park? Or a hiking trail? What about parking fees? Not that $5 is worth anything, I'm just illustrating that simply existing today costs money.
Gas was so cheap when boomers were in their prime that driving was practically free, hence cruising. There have been times I wasn't sure if I could make it into town the whole week because of how expensive gas is.
"We had one car" because it was legal for you to cram all your kids into a bench seat. We're only on our third kid and when we have another we'll literally have to buy a second car because every kid legally needs a car seat.
"We bought furniture from garage sales" yeah me too, except the used furniture I'm buying now is the same price new furniture was back then.
"Muh youngsters and their computers" a reliable computer is cheaper than a family's bi-weekly grocery bill these days.
And as you pointed out there are many, many non-monetary stresses today that boomers didn't experience. Literally every time I'm outside with my kids I need to be hyper-vigilant about the million retarded dog walkers or darkies we pass by. Did boomers need to focus like they were in mountain lion territory every time they were in town? No. Did they need to do a month worth of background checks and paperwork just to get a shitty apartment? No. Did grocery stores feel like prisons? No. Did they need to give up all their personal information just for the *chance* of getting hired at pointless jobs? Fuck no.
And some retard in this thread is calling homeless single White men mentally ill bums. No social services will ever approve an application from a single White man who just wants to work, eat, have a place to reside, and be left alone. Meanwhile they throw money at parasitic foreigner nonWhites who just want handouts and to gloat about it to the discarded useful White men who are living on the streets.
1 year ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)1 child
I've seen that stated and I'm convinced that statistic is old. The first time I heard it was probably in 2008 or 2010. We've also had a decrease in the quality of food over that period. I was able to get away with a whole week of groceries in 2000 or so for under $100. 8 years ago or so we budgeted like $600-800 for the family. Now it's doubled. Food inflation has exploded in the past 5 years.
He has to be under 20. Grocery bills have tripped in just the last few years, on top of the steady inflation year upon year before that. It's like talking to 20 somethings about health insurance costs pre and post Obamacare. The youngins have no idea how much the medical and insurance costs have exploded post Obamacare. They just see it as the "normal".
And, food quality has absolutely nose dived over the decades. The good, unprocessed, fewer ingredient, naturally raised food, somehow costs much more than the poisonous goyslop. Decades prior, the good food was just called "food". Now, to get the good food we have to spend a lot more. So, if we want to eat actual food, so we're not poison ourselves, we're absolutely spending a lot more on food than what our ancestors did.
Only a thoroughly brainwashed individual, or a shill, would suggest that the poison sold in grocery stores and most restaurants could even be classified under the category of "food", while discussing food costs and completely ignoring how poisoned our food has become, while classifying all that poison under "food" to argue that food costs are cheap.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
I'm not sure which is your source, but my salary has not increased at the same pace as inflation. I paid $0.9 per dozen eggs four years ago, and now that they are finally coming down, I'm paying $4 per dozen. My salary has not quadrupled for sure, but it is not only eggs, but chicken, beef, and vegetables, all of whose prices have grown quicker than my salary.
There is no decade in American history without issues, but the loss of purchasing power has been increasing exponentially in the last 20 years. In the 70s, people working a manufacturing job could buy a decent house, cars, pay for their kids' education, and still have some money to spare. Now, husband and wife have to work; they cannot own a similar property to their parents ', and their children will need to take some kind of student loan.
I remember the first real Christmas present I got in 1984 - a transformer. My dad was able to finally buy us kids gifts for Christmas. He said something like he finally felt like we might not grow up poor.
Again - you guys think life sucks because 2016-2020 was so good. Go back in time and 2020-2024 wasn't that bad.
One other note: my dad told me he had been working in his engineer career for years before he felt comfortable buying a Diet Coke every lunch. He has been saving every penny until he finally felt like he could afford such a luxury.
Diet Coke. A luxury.
You're also delusional. I don't think the economy is bad now because "2016-2020 was so good". I think it's bad because it seemed comparatively good throughout my childhood, teens, and early 20s (so I'm talking 90s, 2000s, early 2010s). And sure you could say as a kid I didn't have a good grasp on the economy. But I grew up in a four bedroom house in the suburbs with a stay at home mom and a dad making slightly above the average American salary, and dozens of families in the same neighborhood in the same situation. We always had birthday gifts, Christmas gifts, parties, ate out periodically, went on vacations, etc. And when younger families would move into the neighborhood, with couples that were only maybe 10 years older than me, they were living that exact same life. But by the mid 2010s it wasn't really happening anymore. I skipped college, but many of my peers who went came back without good job prospects. The ones who did get "good" jobs could barely afford to move out. I was only able to afford to move out because I worked my ass off doing overtime and avoided spending money on anything. I saved for nearly 10 years hoping to be able to buy a house, but ended up ditching a quarter of my savings on a minimalist wedding. I could have easily spent half of my savings if I wanted the kind of wedding our families expected us to have. That was a few years ago and since then, inflation has gotten so bad and wages have been so stagnant that I haven't even been able to re-save that money. My savings have been stagnant for over 3 years. I have a son now and we still can't afford to buy a house, any house, even if my wife is working, because the cost of homes has gone up so much and the few affordable homes have 20 offers over asking that outbid us. I simply don't understand how you can be so blind as to not see how fucked the job market and cost of living is now.
Boomers think the food they are buying today are the same quality as their time. Not even close, it’s expensive to avoid the tainted goyslop.
At one point they were using brominated vegetable oil because of the government subsidies making it actually profitable rather than costing money to use just water.
Did boomers have to pay $5 every time they wanted to go to a park? Or a hiking trail? What about parking fees? Not that $5 is worth anything, I'm just illustrating that simply existing today costs money.
Gas was so cheap when boomers were in their prime that driving was practically free, hence cruising. There have been times I wasn't sure if I could make it into town the whole week because of how expensive gas is.
"We had one car" because it was legal for you to cram all your kids into a bench seat. We're only on our third kid and when we have another we'll literally have to buy a second car because every kid legally needs a car seat.
"We bought furniture from garage sales" yeah me too, except the used furniture I'm buying now is the same price new furniture was back then.
"Muh youngsters and their computers" a reliable computer is cheaper than a family's bi-weekly grocery bill these days.
And as you pointed out there are many, many non-monetary stresses today that boomers didn't experience. Literally every time I'm outside with my kids I need to be hyper-vigilant about the million retarded dog walkers or darkies we pass by. Did boomers need to focus like they were in mountain lion territory every time they were in town? No. Did they need to do a month worth of background checks and paperwork just to get a shitty apartment? No. Did grocery stores feel like prisons? No. Did they need to give up all their personal information just for the *chance* of getting hired at pointless jobs? Fuck no.
Because that is an 800% increase from just 4 years ago.
Meanwhile minimum wage hasn't changed in nearly 2 decades.
The (((data))) doesn’t show that.
And, food quality has absolutely nose dived over the decades. The good, unprocessed, fewer ingredient, naturally raised food, somehow costs much more than the poisonous goyslop. Decades prior, the good food was just called "food". Now, to get the good food we have to spend a lot more. So, if we want to eat actual food, so we're not poison ourselves, we're absolutely spending a lot more on food than what our ancestors did.
Only a thoroughly brainwashed individual, or a shill, would suggest that the poison sold in grocery stores and most restaurants could even be classified under the category of "food", while discussing food costs and completely ignoring how poisoned our food has become, while classifying all that poison under "food" to argue that food costs are cheap.
You all pretend life was perfect before the boomers wrecked it. It was never perfect, not even close.
Even though you are spending more of your paycheck as a percentage on groceries than you were 4 years ago (thanks biden) it was way worse in the 80s.
They used to ration gas in the 70s too.
Life sucked in the 80s compared to today. But none of you remember the bad stuff. You didn't live through it.