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Consoom tariffs (youtube.com)
posted 1 year ago by Dps1879 on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror )
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Butttoucha9k on scored.co
1 year ago 15 points (+0 / -0 / +15Score on mirror ) 4 children
No one in that video understands tarrifs.

Tarrifs are DOMESTIC PROTECTION FOR PRODUCTION. The cost IS paid by the consumer, raising the prices. Yes. Thats the point.

A HIGHER COST TO CONSUMER means a wider opportunity to increase domestic production as competition in the market. It allows domestic manufacturers to compete against lower wage costs from overseas.

It improves DOMESTIC PRODUCT and increases LOCAL ECONOMY. Its not a negotiating tool. It's not a sanction threat. It's not a tit for tat. It is a sound economic REQUIREMENT for strong internal industry.
Fabius on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
Yes. It's amazing how many retards don't understand this.

It's trade protectionism meant to create a greater competitive advantage for local producers. Imported prices too high means you buy domestic, which keeps money in the U.S. and creates more opportunity for local business.

You got it right on.
Butttoucha9k on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Apparently there are a lot of retards in here
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
The problem is, it can go either way.

If you have good production locally, there's an incentive to buy local.

If not, customers are paying more *and* making do with less.

Tariffs won't help unless the useless foreign workers and the labour unions get dealt with.
Butttoucha9k on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Tarrifs always help. It is the nature of a free market. If you don't have good production locally, then things cost more. Someone sees that and realizes the opportunity to START PRODUCING LOCALLY. Then you have local competition. Its not a hard concept.
Fabius on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>If not

No. Not "if not". In a country like the U.S. there is ample means of production. The problem is cheap foreign goods flooding the market which disincentivizes local production.
AshenWyvern on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Take a scenario to the extreme of countries A and B. A and B place infinity percent tariffs against each other; thus, no trade. Specialization is reduced by definition. This adversely affects the purchasing power of both country's citizens, both governments makes nothing in tariffs, supply chains are restricted, and economy of scale is diminished.

Tariffs should only be used as a "negotiating tool" of "tit for tat" to keep other countries in check with their dumb tariffs and pseudo-tariffs.

A "strong internal industry" does better with the supplement of actually being able to export.

If one supports America raising tariffs against countries with lower tariffs, one either thinks America is incompetent at competing or tacitly admits the American worker is paid too much.

E: To go even more absurd, why stop at countries? Shouldn't US states apply tariffs against other states? Cities, townships, and counties can jump in too. Perhaps even families so that father has to make all the products for his family so that we can have an extremely strong "local economy" everywhere.
Butttoucha9k on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Thats completely false and flawed in the extreme. Your silly example doesn't stop specialization at all, and a NATION shouldn't be hyper specialized to the point it can't survive without export and import anyways. You also forget the simple market pressures of SUPPLY AND DEMAND. Oh, you want my widget? I make it in China and it's ten bucks. It costs me 7 in manufacturing and shipping. I make 3 dollars profit. Oh, you want to put a 100% tarrif on it? That's 20 dollars and I make three bucks, OR I move my manufacturing to your country, which is where my DEMAND is, it costs me 9 bucks to make it there, and I sell it for 12, maintaining my profits, undercutting my Chinese competitors prices, and creating jobs in the local economy. Or better yet, I sell it for 15 and DOUBLE my profits while generating tax revenue and economic growth for the nation.

This is 5th grade level economics. It isn't hard to understand. Companies move SUPPLY production to the most ECONOMICALLY PROFITABLE PLACE, and can only sell where DEMAND is. They don't care if it's made in Taiwan or Toledo Ohio, as long as it makes the best fiscal sense. If you don't have high demand, then you don't matter, but WE DO. No company in the world wants to lose America as a customer, and if they do decide to maintain foreign production, then a new company WILL be founded domestically to compete because there will be DEMAND for their SUPPLY.
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Butttoucha9k on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
You just used a non trading country to try and make an argument for trade. And you're wrong about their specialization. 90% of north Korea is agriculture.
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Dps1879 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 3 children
Oh!! They're doing it to help us!!! Thanks, I feel better now.
PopularCancer on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror )
Not sure if you are being facetious or not

It isn't specifically to "help us"

It does raise the cost of foreign products, and that simultaneously pushes down demand (furthering anti-consumerist behavior, something we probably agree is a good thing) and it can in some cases create situations where domestic demand for products and employment in related industries is increased marginally by the prices of foreign products becoming more expensive artificially.

If trump was our guy, he would put a 10,000% tariff on everything and we would go full Juche, which is what we should have been doing the whole time.
Butttoucha9k on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Not really, because trump doesn't fully understand tarrifs either. All he sees them as is a negotiating tool.
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
You would rather our workers have to compete on cost with foreign niggers who will work for a sack of rice a week?
cis_scum on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror )
The US was built on Tariffs. You pay higher costs, but you pay them to American workers.

The real problem is America is full of foreigners so all those workers there days are just H1B Indians or Mexicans.
KyleIsThisTall on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror )
I don't want foreign bullshit you kike

I like what we can produce here

That is why i stayed living here
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
Fun fact: municipal infrastructure used to be paid for by the capitalists running successful businesses in the cities. They would pay for roadd and water and power infrastructure because they needed it and other citizens could buy in. The actual city councils didn't do any of this, they were just a mechanism by which the wealth of the city could organize their undertakings.

Today they charge taxes to let the infrastructure that they never built collapse.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Vote for me for president. I will make importing foreign goods a crime punishable by death. American made only.
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