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1 year ago19 points(+0/-0/+19Score on mirror)5 children
He's right you know, when you do intermediary fasting the system basically resets itself and thus has an easier time getting rid of toxins and other foul pollutants
i've done so myself and while it is hard to maintain a 24 hour fast, it only made me sharper, more alert and more concentrated in my work
know what, what the hell we're fasting tonight boys, lets see if i can pull a 36 hour fast
1 year ago14 points(+0/-0/+14Score on mirror)5 children
longest i've done voluntarily is 23-24.
focus and concentration does indeed increase a lot, but i find that after 20 or so hours the hunger is just too distracting to get any meaningful work done
although fasting is also like a muscle, the more you train it the easier it gets
1 year ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)2 children
The first bit is the hardest.
The longest I've fasted was seven days, with a two day break, then another 14. After day three, you just kind of get used to it.
That said, my metabolism is unreal. I can eat whatever I want, as much as I want, and never put on weight (although shitty food is noticeable by what it does to my digestion). I can also stop eating for long periods without losing hardly any weight. I've been within ten lbs of my "standard" weight for over twenty years. Doesn't matter if I'm sitting at a desk or lifting heavy materials all day; all I get is some tone.
Do intestinal parasites feed their host in famine times? Maybe I should get some Ivermectin.
The easiest way for me to start a fast is to eat a big meal in the middle of the day, and start the fast afterward.
To preface: I usually never eat breakfast, eat a very small lunch to tied me over until dinner and keep energy levels up, and get most of my nutrition at dinner. I do this specifically to help me sleep, as this is one thing (in combination with a few other things) that helps me fall asleep and stay asleep. I've had bad insomnia since I was a teen. I wake up in the middle of the night and my mind races, where it can take hours to fall back asleep, if at all.
I'm currently on a low carb diet. I noticed when I ate a bigger meal in the middle of the day, I wouldn't be hungry at night. So, I started to begin my fasts after those larger than normal lunches, and skipped dinner that night. That period of sleep helped to stave off the initial hunger pangs which often presented the worst hurdle to maintaining a fast, at least for me. It gave enough time for the stomach to shrink and the the body to realize what I was doing. The next day's hunger was still present, but slowly decreased throughout the day. Doing this, if you eat around noon to 2ish, by the time you wake up the next day, you've already been fasting for 16-20 hours.
I've also noticed an increased ability to go low calorie for a few days doing the same routine, where I start with a big lunch, skip dinner, and the next day or two I'll only have very small meals when needed to keep up energy levels and stave off the worst hunger pangs. Apparently, according to a cursory search, if the meals are small enough, this doesn't completely stop a fast and autophagy. But, I'm not as knowledgeable as others on the subject, so take it with a grain of salt. However, this does help practice for fasting, and really helps to lose weight, if it's needed.
Yeah, with the small meals I've eaten on a fast would certainly break a traditional fast. It's just something that I've found works for me if I want to go really low calorie for a few days and the hunger pangs get to be too much.
1 year ago8 points(+0/-0/+8Score on mirror)1 child
A few years ago I tried fasting for 4 days and the alertness and "drive" I experienced after 24 hours is nothing in comparison to what happened on the fourth day.
I don't know how to explain it with words, but me saying it is just more of the same feeling as on day 1 is wrong. It is something entirely different and much, much more powerfull.
Everyone should try a 3-4 day fast once, especially fat people because it gets easier and easier to fast the more you do it.
1 year ago11 points(+0/-0/+11Score on mirror)2 children
With a little fat reserves and strength training the muscle loss is minimized, if not non-existent. It's tough to push through a workout without having eaten for two days, but it is doable with one set per muscle group. I believe the body gets enough aminoacids fromt the old and damaged cells it metabolizes during the fast(autophagy).
>but i'm curious what did you feel like after 4 days of no food, did like you unlock ultra instinct or something?
Yeah that's a great way to explain it!
When I woke up I was wide awake in an instant, not a shred of drowsiness or tiredness. My plans for the day got executed like clockwork.
The best and most interesting part though, is I felt no need to procrastinate anything at all, no urge to check my phone or lurk any forums/sites. It was like the concept or idea of procrastinating didn't exist, I just wanted to get things done. I feel like this is the body getting into hunting mode or berry searching mode.
But I kept going about my day at a pretty high pace and after maybe 3-4 hours I tired out and just wanted to relax. Later that same day I broke the fast with some soup or bonebroth, which was the plan so it wasn't like I caved because of exhaustion or something like that, because hunger and the urge to eat wasn't really that immense on the fourth day. I felt like superman.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
>When I woke up I was wide awake in an instant, not a shred of drowsiness or tiredness. My plans for the day got executed like clockwork. The best and most interesting part though, is I felt no need to procrastinate anything at all
Damn that sounds incredible
i had very similar results when i was on 3 months keto, like the very feeling of waking up tired or wasting time on meaningless dopamine didn't exist, it was like the fog around my mind has suddenly dissipated
but alas... temptation got the better of me and i consoomed ze carbs & sugar like a good goy and lost that clarity
i'll have to keep it again for another 3 months if i want those powers back, but i'm tempted to see if fasting can get me there faster
I've tried keto too, but it was after two years of lifting and what I experienced was my performance and strength dropped significantly. This was not during a cut though. Can't say much about muscle loss, the cut was short and I didn't take and pics for reference
Ever since I fasted I've had this idea that carbs are best used the same way caffeine is - before strenuous effort(just give the body enough time to absorb it into the muscles). Besides that, fat is a really great fuel source, for example like working an office job, thinking about life or ideas, writing, etc.
We can manipulate the way our mind and body works via the way we consume food, and via what macros we consume.
I would add one caveat to this. When the body starts burning fat to survive, it can cause a Herxheimer reaction if someone's diet isn't good, or hasn't been good in the past.
There are a lot of toxins in the modern food supply (most notably called "persistent organic pollutants" in the current scientific literature surrounding this subject), and there's increasing data suggesting we're also exposed via environmental factors. These chemicals don't break down easily, in the environment, or in our body. When we're exposed to those chemicals, our body stores them in our fat cells as a mechanism to protect the body, where those toxins will do the least damage. However, when we burn fat, those toxins get released into the bloodstream, which will cause you to feel worse, even though you're losing weight (i.e. a Herxheimer reaction), which should help you feel better (if you're overweight). This might contribute to people stopping a fast, a diet, or exercise regime to help lose weight, as these toxins make them feel worse in the new habit.
It can take the body a long time to fully rid itself of those toxins. Given how persistent those chemicals are, it's almost impossible to completely avoid them. However, the best step people can take is to eat only organic foods, as most of those toxins are chemicals sprayed on veggies, fruits, and grains.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
This is true, but if someone only sit on their ass there is no reason for their body to lose mass by JUST getting rid of fat.
The more muscle mass you have, the more energy you consume by simply existing. So a good tactic(for a human body) during a calorie deficit is to not only to burn fat, but also muscles.
So to keep your lean mass(everything that is not fat) you have to "tell" the body to not get rid of it(since it costs energy to keep it alive). The best and simplest thing is to lift weights! GH helps in this process, but it wont help if the only thing is starvation/fasting(can't build anything in a deficit(except ex pet for for noobs).
I've done seven and I could have gone longer. Days 4-5 make it all worth it. As long as you're keeping your electrolytes up you feel like a superhuman.
More than getting rid of environmental toxins it also allows your body to scale back its defenses since there's less to defend itself against, reducing inflammation. Our bodies exist in a constant state of toxic stress so your immune system is always fighting something. Fasting gives you time to resolve some of these issues.
i've done so myself and while it is hard to maintain a 24 hour fast, it only made me sharper, more alert and more concentrated in my work
know what, what the hell we're fasting tonight boys, lets see if i can pull a 36 hour fast
focus and concentration does indeed increase a lot, but i find that after 20 or so hours the hunger is just too distracting to get any meaningful work done
although fasting is also like a muscle, the more you train it the easier it gets
If you do low carb, fasting is easy and painless.
if there is grub in your fridge, you're going to storm it
which is why setting up the right environment for the fast is half the battle
The longest I've fasted was seven days, with a two day break, then another 14. After day three, you just kind of get used to it.
That said, my metabolism is unreal. I can eat whatever I want, as much as I want, and never put on weight (although shitty food is noticeable by what it does to my digestion). I can also stop eating for long periods without losing hardly any weight. I've been within ten lbs of my "standard" weight for over twenty years. Doesn't matter if I'm sitting at a desk or lifting heavy materials all day; all I get is some tone.
Do intestinal parasites feed their host in famine times? Maybe I should get some Ivermectin.
Put that in your water and you don't get hunger pangs, or at least it staves them off.
To preface: I usually never eat breakfast, eat a very small lunch to tied me over until dinner and keep energy levels up, and get most of my nutrition at dinner. I do this specifically to help me sleep, as this is one thing (in combination with a few other things) that helps me fall asleep and stay asleep. I've had bad insomnia since I was a teen. I wake up in the middle of the night and my mind races, where it can take hours to fall back asleep, if at all.
I'm currently on a low carb diet. I noticed when I ate a bigger meal in the middle of the day, I wouldn't be hungry at night. So, I started to begin my fasts after those larger than normal lunches, and skipped dinner that night. That period of sleep helped to stave off the initial hunger pangs which often presented the worst hurdle to maintaining a fast, at least for me. It gave enough time for the stomach to shrink and the the body to realize what I was doing. The next day's hunger was still present, but slowly decreased throughout the day. Doing this, if you eat around noon to 2ish, by the time you wake up the next day, you've already been fasting for 16-20 hours.
I've also noticed an increased ability to go low calorie for a few days doing the same routine, where I start with a big lunch, skip dinner, and the next day or two I'll only have very small meals when needed to keep up energy levels and stave off the worst hunger pangs. Apparently, according to a cursory search, if the meals are small enough, this doesn't completely stop a fast and autophagy. But, I'm not as knowledgeable as others on the subject, so take it with a grain of salt. However, this does help practice for fasting, and really helps to lose weight, if it's needed.
regarding fast-breaking from what i recall as long as its under 50 kcal it won't break fast. but that equates to a very small portion of food
I don't know how to explain it with words, but me saying it is just more of the same feeling as on day 1 is wrong. It is something entirely different and much, much more powerfull.
Everyone should try a 3-4 day fast once, especially fat people because it gets easier and easier to fast the more you do it.
usually after 2 days your muscles begin to diminish as the body takes apart not only fat cells, but also muscle cells
it needs to draw its energy from someplace
but i'm curious what did you feel like after 4 days of no food, did like you unlock ultra instinct or something?
>but i'm curious what did you feel like after 4 days of no food, did like you unlock ultra instinct or something?
Yeah that's a great way to explain it!
When I woke up I was wide awake in an instant, not a shred of drowsiness or tiredness. My plans for the day got executed like clockwork.
The best and most interesting part though, is I felt no need to procrastinate anything at all, no urge to check my phone or lurk any forums/sites. It was like the concept or idea of procrastinating didn't exist, I just wanted to get things done. I feel like this is the body getting into hunting mode or berry searching mode.
But I kept going about my day at a pretty high pace and after maybe 3-4 hours I tired out and just wanted to relax. Later that same day I broke the fast with some soup or bonebroth, which was the plan so it wasn't like I caved because of exhaustion or something like that, because hunger and the urge to eat wasn't really that immense on the fourth day. I felt like superman.
Damn that sounds incredible
i had very similar results when i was on 3 months keto, like the very feeling of waking up tired or wasting time on meaningless dopamine didn't exist, it was like the fog around my mind has suddenly dissipated
but alas... temptation got the better of me and i consoomed ze carbs & sugar like a good goy and lost that clarity
i'll have to keep it again for another 3 months if i want those powers back, but i'm tempted to see if fasting can get me there faster
Ever since I fasted I've had this idea that carbs are best used the same way caffeine is - before strenuous effort(just give the body enough time to absorb it into the muscles). Besides that, fat is a really great fuel source, for example like working an office job, thinking about life or ideas, writing, etc.
We can manipulate the way our mind and body works via the way we consume food, and via what macros we consume.
There are a lot of toxins in the modern food supply (most notably called "persistent organic pollutants" in the current scientific literature surrounding this subject), and there's increasing data suggesting we're also exposed via environmental factors. These chemicals don't break down easily, in the environment, or in our body. When we're exposed to those chemicals, our body stores them in our fat cells as a mechanism to protect the body, where those toxins will do the least damage. However, when we burn fat, those toxins get released into the bloodstream, which will cause you to feel worse, even though you're losing weight (i.e. a Herxheimer reaction), which should help you feel better (if you're overweight). This might contribute to people stopping a fast, a diet, or exercise regime to help lose weight, as these toxins make them feel worse in the new habit.
It can take the body a long time to fully rid itself of those toxins. Given how persistent those chemicals are, it's almost impossible to completely avoid them. However, the best step people can take is to eat only organic foods, as most of those toxins are chemicals sprayed on veggies, fruits, and grains.
A short article on the subject:
https://paleoleap.com/do-people-release-toxins-when-they-lose-weight/
The more muscle mass you have, the more energy you consume by simply existing. So a good tactic(for a human body) during a calorie deficit is to not only to burn fat, but also muscles.
So to keep your lean mass(everything that is not fat) you have to "tell" the body to not get rid of it(since it costs energy to keep it alive). The best and simplest thing is to lift weights! GH helps in this process, but it wont help if the only thing is starvation/fasting(can't build anything in a deficit(except ex pet for for noobs).