1 year ago11 points(+0/-0/+11Score on mirror)2 children
With a little fat reserves and strength training the muscle loss is minimized, if not non-existent. It's tough to push through a workout without having eaten for two days, but it is doable with one set per muscle group. I believe the body gets enough aminoacids fromt the old and damaged cells it metabolizes during the fast(autophagy).
>but i'm curious what did you feel like after 4 days of no food, did like you unlock ultra instinct or something?
Yeah that's a great way to explain it!
When I woke up I was wide awake in an instant, not a shred of drowsiness or tiredness. My plans for the day got executed like clockwork.
The best and most interesting part though, is I felt no need to procrastinate anything at all, no urge to check my phone or lurk any forums/sites. It was like the concept or idea of procrastinating didn't exist, I just wanted to get things done. I feel like this is the body getting into hunting mode or berry searching mode.
But I kept going about my day at a pretty high pace and after maybe 3-4 hours I tired out and just wanted to relax. Later that same day I broke the fast with some soup or bonebroth, which was the plan so it wasn't like I caved because of exhaustion or something like that, because hunger and the urge to eat wasn't really that immense on the fourth day. I felt like superman.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
>When I woke up I was wide awake in an instant, not a shred of drowsiness or tiredness. My plans for the day got executed like clockwork. The best and most interesting part though, is I felt no need to procrastinate anything at all
Damn that sounds incredible
i had very similar results when i was on 3 months keto, like the very feeling of waking up tired or wasting time on meaningless dopamine didn't exist, it was like the fog around my mind has suddenly dissipated
but alas... temptation got the better of me and i consoomed ze carbs & sugar like a good goy and lost that clarity
i'll have to keep it again for another 3 months if i want those powers back, but i'm tempted to see if fasting can get me there faster
I've tried keto too, but it was after two years of lifting and what I experienced was my performance and strength dropped significantly. This was not during a cut though. Can't say much about muscle loss, the cut was short and I didn't take and pics for reference
Ever since I fasted I've had this idea that carbs are best used the same way caffeine is - before strenuous effort(just give the body enough time to absorb it into the muscles). Besides that, fat is a really great fuel source, for example like working an office job, thinking about life or ideas, writing, etc.
We can manipulate the way our mind and body works via the way we consume food, and via what macros we consume.
I would add one caveat to this. When the body starts burning fat to survive, it can cause a Herxheimer reaction if someone's diet isn't good, or hasn't been good in the past.
There are a lot of toxins in the modern food supply (most notably called "persistent organic pollutants" in the current scientific literature surrounding this subject), and there's increasing data suggesting we're also exposed via environmental factors. These chemicals don't break down easily, in the environment, or in our body. When we're exposed to those chemicals, our body stores them in our fat cells as a mechanism to protect the body, where those toxins will do the least damage. However, when we burn fat, those toxins get released into the bloodstream, which will cause you to feel worse, even though you're losing weight (i.e. a Herxheimer reaction), which should help you feel better (if you're overweight). This might contribute to people stopping a fast, a diet, or exercise regime to help lose weight, as these toxins make them feel worse in the new habit.
It can take the body a long time to fully rid itself of those toxins. Given how persistent those chemicals are, it's almost impossible to completely avoid them. However, the best step people can take is to eat only organic foods, as most of those toxins are chemicals sprayed on veggies, fruits, and grains.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
This is true, but if someone only sit on their ass there is no reason for their body to lose mass by JUST getting rid of fat.
The more muscle mass you have, the more energy you consume by simply existing. So a good tactic(for a human body) during a calorie deficit is to not only to burn fat, but also muscles.
So to keep your lean mass(everything that is not fat) you have to "tell" the body to not get rid of it(since it costs energy to keep it alive). The best and simplest thing is to lift weights! GH helps in this process, but it wont help if the only thing is starvation/fasting(can't build anything in a deficit(except ex pet for for noobs).
I've done seven and I could have gone longer. Days 4-5 make it all worth it. As long as you're keeping your electrolytes up you feel like a superhuman.
usually after 2 days your muscles begin to diminish as the body takes apart not only fat cells, but also muscle cells
it needs to draw its energy from someplace
but i'm curious what did you feel like after 4 days of no food, did like you unlock ultra instinct or something?
>but i'm curious what did you feel like after 4 days of no food, did like you unlock ultra instinct or something?
Yeah that's a great way to explain it!
When I woke up I was wide awake in an instant, not a shred of drowsiness or tiredness. My plans for the day got executed like clockwork.
The best and most interesting part though, is I felt no need to procrastinate anything at all, no urge to check my phone or lurk any forums/sites. It was like the concept or idea of procrastinating didn't exist, I just wanted to get things done. I feel like this is the body getting into hunting mode or berry searching mode.
But I kept going about my day at a pretty high pace and after maybe 3-4 hours I tired out and just wanted to relax. Later that same day I broke the fast with some soup or bonebroth, which was the plan so it wasn't like I caved because of exhaustion or something like that, because hunger and the urge to eat wasn't really that immense on the fourth day. I felt like superman.
Damn that sounds incredible
i had very similar results when i was on 3 months keto, like the very feeling of waking up tired or wasting time on meaningless dopamine didn't exist, it was like the fog around my mind has suddenly dissipated
but alas... temptation got the better of me and i consoomed ze carbs & sugar like a good goy and lost that clarity
i'll have to keep it again for another 3 months if i want those powers back, but i'm tempted to see if fasting can get me there faster
Ever since I fasted I've had this idea that carbs are best used the same way caffeine is - before strenuous effort(just give the body enough time to absorb it into the muscles). Besides that, fat is a really great fuel source, for example like working an office job, thinking about life or ideas, writing, etc.
We can manipulate the way our mind and body works via the way we consume food, and via what macros we consume.
There are a lot of toxins in the modern food supply (most notably called "persistent organic pollutants" in the current scientific literature surrounding this subject), and there's increasing data suggesting we're also exposed via environmental factors. These chemicals don't break down easily, in the environment, or in our body. When we're exposed to those chemicals, our body stores them in our fat cells as a mechanism to protect the body, where those toxins will do the least damage. However, when we burn fat, those toxins get released into the bloodstream, which will cause you to feel worse, even though you're losing weight (i.e. a Herxheimer reaction), which should help you feel better (if you're overweight). This might contribute to people stopping a fast, a diet, or exercise regime to help lose weight, as these toxins make them feel worse in the new habit.
It can take the body a long time to fully rid itself of those toxins. Given how persistent those chemicals are, it's almost impossible to completely avoid them. However, the best step people can take is to eat only organic foods, as most of those toxins are chemicals sprayed on veggies, fruits, and grains.
A short article on the subject:
https://paleoleap.com/do-people-release-toxins-when-they-lose-weight/
The more muscle mass you have, the more energy you consume by simply existing. So a good tactic(for a human body) during a calorie deficit is to not only to burn fat, but also muscles.
So to keep your lean mass(everything that is not fat) you have to "tell" the body to not get rid of it(since it costs energy to keep it alive). The best and simplest thing is to lift weights! GH helps in this process, but it wont help if the only thing is starvation/fasting(can't build anything in a deficit(except ex pet for for noobs).