19 hours ago10 points(+0/-0/+10Score on mirror)2 children
You shouldn't be a libertarian, liberal, or conservative. These are political ideologies that should be studied and understood. You should not become them. Any of them. Same with religion. Be your own man.
18 hours ago21 points(+0/-0/+21Score on mirror)2 children
Seems like he's already saying that, my man. He asked when we STOPPED being libertarian.
For me, I was a Civnat until my mid-twenties. I had a Jamaican friend that seemed like one of the "good ones". He hated liberalism, the LGBBQ, etc. This changed when the Floyd riots started. He joined the protests, and reposted a video of some White MAGA men getting beaten in the street. I realized he would ALWAYS walk in step with his race, and that I should too.
17 hours ago10 points(+0/-0/+10Score on mirror)1 child
I think I was about 28. It was when I heard the hypothetical "should an adult man be allowed to purchase a sex doll based off of his 12 year old niece?"
When the group this was posed didn't unanimously condemn it i knew i wasn't one of them.
"But he's not hurting anyone" is the same logic that was used for homosexuality normalization and it's the same logic being used now for transgenderism. The thing is, the liberty to hurt oneself, even if they don't view it as such, even if they do not involve others, still degrades the strength and morality of the society as a whole.
18 hours ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)2 children
Well, I stand for free markets and decreased taxation. It's simply the most reasonable approach to having a good economy.
But what is of primary importance, the highest priority that puts everything else to dust, is 100% ethnic purity and the complete removal of non-White men from positions of power. I don't think there is an ideology that describes my stance.
Note that a LOT of what is conceived of libertarianism is distorted and false, and that "Libertarianism" is just another vehicle to push kikery. Think about the concept of corporations and whatever the government conjures up as bureaucratic-legal constructs, which people *have* to use, but can also abuse. Or that kikes running the finance system is in itself a total perversion of the economic system. Then there are government bailouts.
Given that, maybe it's reasonable to put that term to rest.
14 hours ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)1 child
> Note that a LOT of what is conceived of libertarianism is distorted and false, and that "Libertarianism" is just another vehicle to push kikery.
This is why I always say "language" is their number 1 weapon, followed closely by usury, and racism as the third pillar.
How they contort and twist words to convince people of falsehoods is the root of our problems with kikes. Both usury and racism stem from the mastery of their linguistic tricks.
The classical definitions of words should be enshrined and protected. Otherwise, you get omnibus definitions like the colloquial "Libertarianism" that jews have shoveled their own agendas into for decades.
13 hours ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
> from the mastery of their linguistic tricks.
I am reluctant to call it "mastery", because it's just superficial, dumb bullshitting tactics, sophistry for the dumb. The problem is that people, who should be able to dismantle these linguistic tricks, struggle to do so, even though it's simple.
It's more about the persistence to the bullshitting, the insolence and shamelessness to use tricks to no end.
> I am reluctant to call it "mastery", because it's just superficial, dumb bullshitting tactics, sophistry for the dumb.
While that's true, I don't think you give yourself enough credit.
Even that understanding (that it's all dumb bullshitting tactics) is on a plateau too tall for most to reach. Most can't see the mothership through the chaff,,, they don't even know the mothership exists. Many believe the chaff is all there is and that they're arguing in good faith. Even the very *concept* of there being a mothership is foreign to them.
I often wonder if a lot more people are secretly awake than I think, and nobody wants to start rocking the boat and ending the party, so to speak. But then I remember the general public is generally pretty stupid.
18 hours ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)3 children
Classic Libertarianism is a good foundational ideology. Its based in the freedom of the individual. The issue is when you remove social pressure and add moral relativism. Then you get the nonsense the modern libertarian proclaims.
Anything can work in a small populated white society.
It's like group projects in school. Take the best kids and put them in a group, it doesn't matter how they organize themselves, it's going to work. Same is true but in reverse for the worst. Doesn't matter how you organize them, they're still going to fail.
The best visions of libertarianism are paired with strong social solidarity and a shared nation with strong border control, with an anti-usury bent. The worst versions of libertarianism are steeped in the moral relativism and obsess over trying to see how various degeneracies are "totally OK dude if you think about it like this..." If you look into the biggest proponents of the latter version, you won't be surprised.
16 hours ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)1 child
I don't think I was ever really a lolbert, at least not fully.
There was a time where I did hold (and still do) hold some common ground with the libertarians around things like gun rights and property rights in general, but I was never comfortable with all the "be gay smoke weed" shit that came along with it.
16 hours ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
Libertarianism is inherently wrong because individualism is inherently wrong. No society ever flourished on the belief of "rugged individualism". No, not even America, this line of thought only started in the 50s, which was the beginning of the decline in all aspects but GDP and military.
The state, or the nation, guided by religion, is the primary unit of social and ethical analysis. It was like this since prehistoric chiefdoms and nothing ever changed. This is how humans function. Putting the individual before community is how we got here in the first place. In nature, if you put yourself before community, you'd simply die. In civilized society, mass quantities of people putting themselves before community causes the civilization to die. We are collectivist creatures by nature, God made us that way. If you don't identify as a collective in some capacity at the very least, everything will fall apart. Even individualist libertarians must identify as a sort of collectivist too, however, because they associate with each other as their own collective community. So they are not free from what their nature as a human binds them towards no matter how hard they try.
That isn't to say that everyone should be a complete hivemind of the same thoughts and opinions, of course, some individualism is necessary for people to live their lives. But as a society we should be mostly collectivist, and be concerned with the necessities of the collective before individual desires, and a vast majority of times in a high trust society, putting into said collective comes out with you ending up in a better position in all aspects of your personal life, more than you could do by yourself. I would say 70% collectivist and 30% individualist is how a good society should be. This certainly excludes lolbertarianism. Selfishness is for jews.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
13 hours ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
There is a difference between an individual placing their own interests above that of their community and the community recognising the individual abilities of it's members (in order to have them contribute at their maximum potential).
I think we went wrong when we lost that distinction.
I think that a community recognizing the talents of its individual members is still quite a collectivist thing. Because, as you said, it's recognizing their abilities and how they can contribute to overall wellbeing.
Simply put, we cannot survive if we do not look out for one another. This is the most base instinct on the planet, even niggers can fully comprehend it, but somehow the western world has just forgotten about it due to specific strains of enlightenment ideology (definitely *not* all of it though, a common misconception, but the theories engendered by anglo-centric liberalism in particular. The "collectivist and statist" liberalism arising from france ironically forms the primary backbone against it, even if not envisioned by its authors and philosophers. This is where people like Mussolini, Hitler, and JAPR among others can find their deepest ancestral ideological roots)
The way I see it is as follows: literally everything is based on enlightenment era liberalism in some variety. Genuine reaction is utterly moribund. So which one do you choose? The "anglo-dutch" liberalism of being in perpetual antagonism towards the state, liberty *in spite of* the state? Or do you fall into the camp of "romance" liberalism, where liberty is engendered by the state which executes whatever is in the best interests of its constituents? The former is bound to result in a low trust and negative society no matter what, because if it creates in people, by default, a hatred towards the state and its institutions, the state will respond in turn by hating its people, and it empowers people who are asocial and all other sorts of bad actors because it rewards this behavior. The latter is volatile and can end in absolute catastrophe when it is used in the hands of bad actors, such as the bolsheviks, but it can also create beauty and renewed vigor for a nation and its people, such as fascism et al.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
the problem with lolberts is that far too many are just pacifists hiding behind NAP. "leave me alone" is not a valid political stance when one side is purposely causing problems that force you to waste your time on said problems. they've already declared war and the lolberts never do shit about it.
I stopped when I realized jiggers, spics, dune dune coons, shitskins, and foids don’t care about freedom and that libertarianism would help them destroy Whites. That was probably 2016-2017. After that, watching non-whites get free pass to attack White conservatives radicalized me into the “right”. After that, covid and nigger antics has me ready for straight race war.
Around when gay marriage was a hot topic. The libertarian philosophy as I followed it at the time was that basically everything was okay so long as it's consensual and doesn't harm anyone or anything, so the gay lifestyle was acceptable but the idea of altering language, law and tradition was harmful to religious institutions and therefore unacceptable. My logic, which was, to me, libertarian logic; was that the gays shouldn't bother with radically changing a religious institution that they rejected and that rejects them. This was around when Obummer said *"marriage is between a man and a woman"* to get elected and then he did the opposite.
Idk, it was around that time that I saw politics as more nuanced and realized that my perspective is just one of many perspectives rather than a comprehensive worldview. Things presented as obvious began appearing false, and it made me reevaluate all my political positions. I wasn't based yet, and wasn't gonna be for a while, but breaking free from libertarianism so early in life helped kickstart that journey.
For me, I was a Civnat until my mid-twenties. I had a Jamaican friend that seemed like one of the "good ones". He hated liberalism, the LGBBQ, etc. This changed when the Floyd riots started. He joined the protests, and reposted a video of some White MAGA men getting beaten in the street. I realized he would ALWAYS walk in step with his race, and that I should too.
I don't know that seems pretty libertarian dude.