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9 months ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)2 children
There are a hundred denominations. All of them were started by highly motivated people. Which ones were following God? Which ones still do?
My problem with Christianity is that any random Christian is more likely to be a Zionist than not. How can an entire religion be hijacked like that? Remember: highly motivated people saying they're bringing people closer to god.
Most people are NPCs and will believe whatever they're told. They aren't good or evil. Merely tools.
9 months ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)1 child
>My problem with Christianity is that any random Christian is more likely to be a Zionist than not. How can an entire religion be hijacked like that?
What are you talking about? Christian Zionism comes from Dispensationalism, which is a uniquely modern American heresy. Maybe you live in a particular area where you're surrounded by these types, but that doesn't mean that's the norm. It's like living in Salt Lake City and thinking every religious person must be a Mormon.
9 months ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)1 child
Look at Europe today and tell me again that zionism is uniquely American. The Balfour Declaration was signed in the UK. All of Europe United against Germany at the will of the jews.
The average European may not worship jews like American dispensationialists, but they tolerate zionist leaders.
9 months ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)2 children
Christian zionism has its roots in puritan theology about the necessity of the conversion of the jews to bring about apocalypse. A false belief that led to cromwell erroneously allowing thousands of jews free passage into england under the impression that they would honestly convert to Christianity (they did not)
Eventually this devolved into dispensationalism and the belief that jews are "gods chosen people" because they say so. But the seeds were sown in England. Though, it goes back long before cromwell and was completed after his reign. Jews were first brought to England by William the bastard. They were given control over the banks by William of orange some 600 years later.
But cromwell's ignorance about jews led to philosemitism among the British, and by proxy, all anglophone people. Which is why they find refuge without issue in anglosphere nations. William the bastard brought them over in the first place. William of orange handed them full control of English society.
It's multifaceted, but you can find something resembling dispensationalism in any country in the anglosphere because all of these beliefs are descended from a common ancestor.
Dutch protestantism suffered a similar fate to english protestantism by the way. The Dutch are largely to blame for what happened in the anglosphere themselves (because of William of orange)
9 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
>puritan theology
Aka Neo-Judaization. Puritanism is an attempt to remove all "Pagan" influence (which they falsely claimed the Catholic Church was the result of) on Christianity, without realizing that they have mistaken the teaching of the Church Fathers for Paganism, and therefore have become tools for the Synagogue of Satan. Modern "Judaism" is itself a Pagan creed, but the Puritans were too blinded by their own hatred of the Catholic Church established by Christ Himself to realize they had thrown in their lot with the very people He had warned us to have no association with.
9 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
No, dispensationalism is far more specific than just vaguely thinking that Jews can be saved. Dispensationalism is set of beliefs that the Bible is to be divided into "dispensations" and that we're currently in the "church age" and then there's going to be a rapture at any minute, and then some remaining non-raptured Jews will miraculously be saved, and so forth. It also takes prophecies from around the Babylonian captivity of the Israelites and erroneously claims that not all of those have been fulfilled (hence why modern false-Israel must exist). This all started in the mid 1800s by John Nelson Darby, and it languished in total obscurity for a while until it was popularized in America by Cyrus Scofield and his shady Zionist financiers in the early 1900s, and then really gained traction after WWII when Zionist-funded book publishers began literally giving Scofield study bibles away for free. The overwhelming majority of Protestants had historically believed that born-again saved Christians were God's chosen people, and all this nonsense about dispensations and unfulfilled prophecies was nowhere to be found. The whole point of Protestantism was Biblical purity, not philosemitism.
9 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
I'm ambivalent about whether or not Christianity is a true jewish psyop by design. The Adam Green position is a stretch. Regardless, it is certainly wielded by jews in the modern era, as you say.
But one thing is for certain—with the way history has unfolded, there is no way Christianity is true in the way it says on the tin. I'm too sleepy to write one of my usual essays on the topic, but there are a million glaring holes in the religion that don't get patched up just because you start hating jews.
I think it draws in right wingers because it is *extremely* aesthetic (icons, crusadercore imagery,) and much of the Bible is a highly poetic, evocative text. It feels very powerful to quote it at the bad guy (or a rival peer) like moral spellcraft, once you've shaped it around your preferred ideology.
Also, it's functionally been an extension of European culture for the last few thousand years, and in the soulless modern world, where young White men are *desperate* for any sense of cultural identity, it becomes very easy to latch onto as something you must defend or "carry on," especially in light of the prior point about how gratifying it is to the senses.
Anyone with mixed ancestry who wants in on "White" identity is particularly vulnerable to this, due to Christianity's universalist overtones. Even if they don't explicitly believe that it teaches religion > race, they understand on a limbic level that it muddies the waters. See u/DeplorableGerman . I also once knew a mischling who was a similarly zealous Christian for similar reasons.
And, credit where credit is due—it is a pretty robust practical values system. Its bigger problems, in my opinion, lie more in the deeper lore and metaphysics. But on the ground, it teaches you softcore asceticism, chastity, caring for your body and community... It's no surprise that it produces strong, fertile Whites among those who take those tenants seriously, even if they're ideologically kneecapped in other areas.
Amazing essay. I agree on all points. Still, it feels like it stunts development. Those that profess it as the only way and that anyone that does not buy into some flavor of Christianity, even a clearly cultist sect, is defective, means that it supercedes White identity and becomes a tool for brother wars.
My problem with Christianity is that any random Christian is more likely to be a Zionist than not. How can an entire religion be hijacked like that? Remember: highly motivated people saying they're bringing people closer to god.
Most people are NPCs and will believe whatever they're told. They aren't good or evil. Merely tools.
What are you talking about? Christian Zionism comes from Dispensationalism, which is a uniquely modern American heresy. Maybe you live in a particular area where you're surrounded by these types, but that doesn't mean that's the norm. It's like living in Salt Lake City and thinking every religious person must be a Mormon.
The average European may not worship jews like American dispensationialists, but they tolerate zionist leaders.
Eventually this devolved into dispensationalism and the belief that jews are "gods chosen people" because they say so. But the seeds were sown in England. Though, it goes back long before cromwell and was completed after his reign. Jews were first brought to England by William the bastard. They were given control over the banks by William of orange some 600 years later.
But cromwell's ignorance about jews led to philosemitism among the British, and by proxy, all anglophone people. Which is why they find refuge without issue in anglosphere nations. William the bastard brought them over in the first place. William of orange handed them full control of English society.
It's multifaceted, but you can find something resembling dispensationalism in any country in the anglosphere because all of these beliefs are descended from a common ancestor.
Dutch protestantism suffered a similar fate to english protestantism by the way. The Dutch are largely to blame for what happened in the anglosphere themselves (because of William of orange)
Aka Neo-Judaization. Puritanism is an attempt to remove all "Pagan" influence (which they falsely claimed the Catholic Church was the result of) on Christianity, without realizing that they have mistaken the teaching of the Church Fathers for Paganism, and therefore have become tools for the Synagogue of Satan. Modern "Judaism" is itself a Pagan creed, but the Puritans were too blinded by their own hatred of the Catholic Church established by Christ Himself to realize they had thrown in their lot with the very people He had warned us to have no association with.
But one thing is for certain—with the way history has unfolded, there is no way Christianity is true in the way it says on the tin. I'm too sleepy to write one of my usual essays on the topic, but there are a million glaring holes in the religion that don't get patched up just because you start hating jews.
I think it draws in right wingers because it is *extremely* aesthetic (icons, crusadercore imagery,) and much of the Bible is a highly poetic, evocative text. It feels very powerful to quote it at the bad guy (or a rival peer) like moral spellcraft, once you've shaped it around your preferred ideology.
Also, it's functionally been an extension of European culture for the last few thousand years, and in the soulless modern world, where young White men are *desperate* for any sense of cultural identity, it becomes very easy to latch onto as something you must defend or "carry on," especially in light of the prior point about how gratifying it is to the senses.
Anyone with mixed ancestry who wants in on "White" identity is particularly vulnerable to this, due to Christianity's universalist overtones. Even if they don't explicitly believe that it teaches religion > race, they understand on a limbic level that it muddies the waters. See u/DeplorableGerman . I also once knew a mischling who was a similarly zealous Christian for similar reasons.
And, credit where credit is due—it is a pretty robust practical values system. Its bigger problems, in my opinion, lie more in the deeper lore and metaphysics. But on the ground, it teaches you softcore asceticism, chastity, caring for your body and community... It's no surprise that it produces strong, fertile Whites among those who take those tenants seriously, even if they're ideologically kneecapped in other areas.