It's like an endless cycle of having my heart broken or me breaking some nice girl's heart. I have to juggle multiple women at once to not waste time because chances are these little games last 1-2 dates. This is ridiculous. If you randomly stumbled across your wife without putting in much effort, consider yourself blessed.
"According to a YouGov survey on How Brits Meet Their Partners published in Sept. 2024, 8 percent of us met our current or most recent significant others on a dating app"
The problem is the women won't have the same attraction for men on a dating app as they would if the man approached them in person. Majority of women aren't logical so thinking as if they think the same as men in dating apps isn't going to work.
You can find women in person by walking up to a girl you find attractive and starting a conversation. If you have low confidence then talk to employees at stores/restaurants/conventions/local events/coffee shops/classes(dancing, yoga, art).
Edit to add. Church is another place and some Churches have singles groups
I didn't insult you. I said you're clueless, which isn't an insult because it's only related to the topic at hand and
not to you personally.
> You can find women in person by walking up to a girl you find attractive and starting a conversation.
When was the last time you've done this?
I'm ready to bet that you're a boomer who hasn't approached a woman in decades.
It just does not work like this anymore. Women who are walking around do not want to be disturbed.
I don't think I've ever seen a woman sitting alone in a bar/coffee shop in my entire life.
> talk to employees
Talk to a cashier? Oh lol, yeah that's a good method for looking like a creep and get security/the police involved. Even if she was attracted to you, she would not want to compromise her job.
> Church is another place
Oh yes I'm sure there are a lot of young women in a church.
You starting this whole thread about how we shouldn't be using online dating is absurd. Let me ask you, when was the last time you fucked a *new* woman for the first time? Was it in this millennia?
[Here's some data](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fuwe4cchpfz5c1.png)
I approached women in person 2 years ago. If you actually think women will get security/police involved then you are trolling or have very low confidence in yourself. Women purposely walk around/sit at coffee shops/church/events is to be hit on. This is why so many women wish men would hit on them.
2 years ago. One night stands on dating apps is very easy. The problem is more than 1-2 dates. Once I quit dating apps then I started approaching women everywhere(made it a goal to ask them out) and got enough to where I could pick the woman I wanted to keep. The only time you lose is if you don't ask them out so not doing anything is losing.
Don't worry about what women think about you. I am assuming you have low confidence and it isn't a problem. Get use to talking to employees or people in Church groups. Then it will help you realize that everyone is human and not as crazy as the media portrays them.
Whatever you think is wrong with you then you can always do something about it so you are happy with yourself. If short then wear elevated shoes/soles. If out of shape then gym/diet. If you don't know what to say then make it a goal of learning about her.
I don't have a problem with my confidence or with how I look. But this:
> One night stands on dating apps is very easy.
This is the most insane thing I've read all week.
It may be that it's easy *for you* because you're either handsome or jacked or you have some special quality which attracts women. But I guarantee you that for the 90% of men having sex from a dating app (or anywhere else for that matters) is extremely difficult.
I base this not only on my personal experience, but from what I read / see online and (especially) from simple logic: for every woman who wants casual sex, there are at least 10 men. Or more like 20 men.
Therefore it's a simple matter of math, that proves that it must be very difficult for a man to get laid.
Again, I know you were trying to be helpful but you come across as a rich guy telling a homeless person to get a job: your advice is not wrong, but it's not as easy for other people as it is for you.
I don't mean to come across that way. I am below the top men so above average which any man can get to. Wearing accessories can help stand out such as a necklace, watch, and bracelet.
I want to be as helpful as I can to any brothers by sharing my experience with what works compared to wasting time on a dating app. Dating apps can be addictive since takes 0 real effort to use and you get chances at dates.
All it takes is for 1 girl to become your gf. So asking out 100 girls and getting only 1 # is a huge win compared to doing nothing while blacks/arabs/jews/indians/mexicans have chances to steal what could have been your gf.