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It is either adultery or polygamy. The difference being whether this is a lust based sexual encounter or encounters, or a permanent union with a second wife.
From a biblical scriptural perspective. Adultery is a serious sin deserving of death, being defined in the mosaic law as sexual relations with another mans wife. Polygamy is an arrangement that goes outside of God's primary purpose of one man and one wife, however it is a scripturally acceptable practice. Acceptable meaning it is not a sin to engage in it, however it is not promoted as a good course of life or as purposed by god. The only restriction on Polygamy being found in 2 timothy chapter 3 as it discusses those given appointed positions of authority within the Christian congregation only being permitted to be husbands of one wife. Infact the only scripture placing any restrictions on polygamy are this one and titus 1:5, 6 which had the same purpose for appointed men.
A further scriptural point. Polygamy is only acceptable for a single husband with multiple wives. A single wife with multiple husbands is pure modern jewish evil.
Remember God commands it in the case of Levirate Marriage. (That was what the sadducee was asking Jesus about when he asked about the brothers and the widow.)
There's also commandments regarding how to do polygamy properly. IE, don't throw away the wife of your youth, don't favor the children of one wife over the other, etc...
Genesis 2:18-25. Particularly verse 24 being of note. God created Adam with one wife, not two wives. God's original design was clearly for one pair. Verse 24 highlighting that the two would become one flesh. Or you could almost think as one person. Which is ultimately what the ideal marriage is, two people united as one cohesive entity.
An extra note is that after the flood only noah, his 3 sons, and each of their wives survived. 2 peter 2:5 noting that there were only these 8 survivors. 4 examples of monogamous marriage being the only ones to survive the flood.
The mosaic law did indeed possess many laws and regulations to ensure the israelites who took multiple wives did it in a way that would attempt to be loving and honorable to each. Of note though is Matthew 19:8, while this is regarding divorce, it stands out that there were legal concessions within the law to account for the fact the Israelites were hard hearted people that wanted to do what they wanted rather than what god wanted.
"God's original design" is not found in Genesis 2 or anywhere else for that matter.
Regarding two becoming one, simple math says that if 2 can become 1, then 3 can become 1 and so on. You'll note in John 17, Jesus intends to unite with all of his disciples in the same way he is united with God.
You can't deny polygamy by demonstrating monogamy. Monogamy is consistent with polygamy the same way that having 1 child is consistent with having 2 or 10. You'll need to find somewhere in the Bible where it says that God does not want men to have more than one wife. Trying to prove that God doesn't want polygamy because many people had 1 wife is like trying to show that God doesn't want monogamy because many people (like Paul) had no wives.
I'm surprised you didn't quote the "husband of one wife" passage in Timothy. I was hoping you would because that one is more fun to explain in its context.
God's original design is found in what he originally designed. It does not need to be explicitly stated that "This is the way god intends it to be." There is likewise no scripture stating polygamy is how god intended things to be. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I cannot recall any scripture where god is asking one of his servants to marry multiple women. It was tolerated, but not promoted.
I also did not quote timothy and titus as I already did so in the post prior to this one. The context being this is restrictions placed on those taking the lead in the christian congregation. Who are supposed to serve as an example for the rest of the congregation to follow, suggesting it is god's will to be monogamous.
We also have scriptural examples of polygamous marriages where partners were left unloved and abused by their fellow wives. Notably Leah and Rachael, Rachael being favored with Leah being more so tolerated. Or Hannah and Peninnah where Peninnah mocked Hannah. Kings David and Solomon each had their many wives and concubines, do you think any of those wives felt particularly loved and cherished by their husband?
You're already versed in this, we have scriptures that suggest monogamy is proper, we have no scriptures suggesting polygamy is the proper path of adhering to gods standards of conduct.
From a biblical scriptural perspective. Adultery is a serious sin deserving of death, being defined in the mosaic law as sexual relations with another mans wife. Polygamy is an arrangement that goes outside of God's primary purpose of one man and one wife, however it is a scripturally acceptable practice. Acceptable meaning it is not a sin to engage in it, however it is not promoted as a good course of life or as purposed by god. The only restriction on Polygamy being found in 2 timothy chapter 3 as it discusses those given appointed positions of authority within the Christian congregation only being permitted to be husbands of one wife. Infact the only scripture placing any restrictions on polygamy are this one and titus 1:5, 6 which had the same purpose for appointed men.
A further scriptural point. Polygamy is only acceptable for a single husband with multiple wives. A single wife with multiple husbands is pure modern jewish evil.
Where is that found in the Bible?
Remember God commands it in the case of Levirate Marriage. (That was what the sadducee was asking Jesus about when he asked about the brothers and the widow.)
There's also commandments regarding how to do polygamy properly. IE, don't throw away the wife of your youth, don't favor the children of one wife over the other, etc...
An extra note is that after the flood only noah, his 3 sons, and each of their wives survived. 2 peter 2:5 noting that there were only these 8 survivors. 4 examples of monogamous marriage being the only ones to survive the flood.
The mosaic law did indeed possess many laws and regulations to ensure the israelites who took multiple wives did it in a way that would attempt to be loving and honorable to each. Of note though is Matthew 19:8, while this is regarding divorce, it stands out that there were legal concessions within the law to account for the fact the Israelites were hard hearted people that wanted to do what they wanted rather than what god wanted.
"God's original design" is not found in Genesis 2 or anywhere else for that matter.
Regarding two becoming one, simple math says that if 2 can become 1, then 3 can become 1 and so on. You'll note in John 17, Jesus intends to unite with all of his disciples in the same way he is united with God.
You can't deny polygamy by demonstrating monogamy. Monogamy is consistent with polygamy the same way that having 1 child is consistent with having 2 or 10. You'll need to find somewhere in the Bible where it says that God does not want men to have more than one wife. Trying to prove that God doesn't want polygamy because many people had 1 wife is like trying to show that God doesn't want monogamy because many people (like Paul) had no wives.
I'm surprised you didn't quote the "husband of one wife" passage in Timothy. I was hoping you would because that one is more fun to explain in its context.
I also did not quote timothy and titus as I already did so in the post prior to this one. The context being this is restrictions placed on those taking the lead in the christian congregation. Who are supposed to serve as an example for the rest of the congregation to follow, suggesting it is god's will to be monogamous.
We also have scriptural examples of polygamous marriages where partners were left unloved and abused by their fellow wives. Notably Leah and Rachael, Rachael being favored with Leah being more so tolerated. Or Hannah and Peninnah where Peninnah mocked Hannah. Kings David and Solomon each had their many wives and concubines, do you think any of those wives felt particularly loved and cherished by their husband?
You're already versed in this, we have scriptures that suggest monogamy is proper, we have no scriptures suggesting polygamy is the proper path of adhering to gods standards of conduct.