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>The jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the jewish people"
--Saint Pope Pius X
>All the world suffers from the usury of the jews, their monopolies and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people into a state of poverty, especially the farmers, working class people, and the very poor.
--Pope Clement VIII
>We forbid jews to be appointed to public office, since under cover of them, they are very hostile to Chrisitans
--Pope Innocent III
>By means of their practice of commerce, jews amass a great store of money and then by an exorbitant rate of interest utterly destroy the wealth and inheritance of Christians.
--Pope Benedict XIV
Far from no Popes ever criticizing them.
>The Inquisition only went after Jews who pretended to be Christians to avoid restrictions.
Moving the goalposts, then. We've gone from "the Catholic Church never killed a single jew" to "well they killed *some* jews, but not enough". I share that same sentiment, sure, but you let your hatred cloud your judgement oftentimes. Nor are you as historically literate as I would like.
>These is where the claims of antisemitism against the Catholic Church come from.
There was a crusade against jews also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Crusade
And countless killings and reprisals of jews by Christian authorities as a result of their satanic sacrifice of Christian children being found out. You have not yet read *The Sword of Christ* like I recommended to you, have you? I can assure you there is almost an uncountable documentation of reprisals by Christians against jews over the millennia.
>But what is more striking is that Luther doesn't advocate violence against Jews
I mean, he did say that if he had to baptize a jew it would be by tying a millstone around his neck and casting him into the Elbe...
> Moving the goalposts, then. We've gone from "the Catholic Church never killed a single jew" to "well they killed some jews, but not enough".
This isn't true, I did not move the goalpost. The goalpost was to have killed a Jew only because of him being a Jew. OBVIOUSLY.
Otherwise it's like libtards claiming that the police kills niggers, implying that it's for the sole reason that they were niggers. Explaining to the libtards that the police kills niggers because they were being violent is not moving the goalpost.
> Nor are you as historically literate as I would like.
I am historically and logically literate, I assure you.
In fact my main source for this kind of discussion is *The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit*, written by E. Michael Jones who is the most famous and well respected counter-semitic Christian today (obviously he's censored from everywhere).
He does a stellar job at going through the historical sources, and distinguish between the acts that were committed by someone who happened to be nominally Christian, and the Churches or clergymen. You seem to have a blind spot on this. You keep trying to take credit for stuff that Europeans did when their religious affiliation is unknown or irrelevant. It would be like me bringing up that FDR was a Christian and then blame Christianity for him starting WWII.
Your own link says:
> where the Bishop saved the rest of the Jews
And we have countless examples of the Church or individual clergymen saving the Jews. Including of course the pope criticizing the antisemitism of the Third Reich.
Overall it seems that historically the Church was critical of the Jews and tried to protect Christians from their influence, but never wanted the Jews to be physically eliminated, hoping instead that they will convert.
> You have not yet read The Sword of Christ like I recommended to you, have you?
It's very high on my list, I will read it. Only because of you :)
Clemens and Blair has a new release of Saint John Chrysostom's collected homilies against the jews that I just picked up, too. Haven't started it yet, but I've read pieces of these homilies before and they're quite good. I would recommend that too.
> The goalpost was to have killed a Jew only because of him being a Jew.
Would not killing a jew for being a corrupting subversive be practically the same thing? To be jewish is to subvert.
>You keep trying to take credit for stuff that Europeans did when their religious affiliation is unknown or irrelevant.
So...if a Christian did something you happen to like or agree with then their religious affiliation is 'irrelevant' then? But of course it's always relevant when a Christian does something you *don't* like. That doesn't sound the least little bit like cherry-picking to you? Even you must know that atheism was virtually unheard of 100 years ago or more in the great mass of people. For the sake of the argument, even if we don't know *for certain* what a White European's religious affiliation was a century ago, there's a *pretty giant chance* they were Christian.
>And we have countless examples of the Church or individual clergymen saving the Jews. Including of course the pope criticizing the antisemitism of the Third Reich.
I'm not saying they were perfect. But these faults stem not from religious beliefs but from political ones. Jewish propaganda has been quite strong in the masses for over 200 years at least. And among higher echelons of society for over a millennia. 20th century Christians by and large were already infected or becoming infected with it. Turning around and blaming the resultant shortcomings on Christianity is a false conclusion. Take the criticizing antisemitism you mentioned, for example. This is not the result of a Christian teaching, but the result of jewish political ideology and mass manipulation. John Chrysostom, as I mentioned already, penned some of the most antisemitic works *in existance*. These modern aberrations are exactly that; modern aberrations. I share your belief in that they desperately need fixing, but that does not mean the foundation they were laid upon is bad.
>Overall it seems that historically the Church was critical of the Jews and tried to protect Christians from their influence, but never wanted the Jews to be physically eliminated, hoping instead that they will convert.
*YES*, you are absolutely correct in this assertion. That was their crucial and oftentimes fatal flaw. They always failed to see the jewish problem for what it was; a racial problem instead of an ideological one. But through their failures we have amassed an irrefutable store of evidence that such conversion *will never happen*. Which means that we can absolutely justify, beyond a shadow of a doubt, a more permanent solution to the problem. That is the one silver lining.
>It's very high on my list, I will read it.
I promise you, the only way you will not see things differently afterwards is if you have the deliberate desire to not do so.