1 year ago14 points(+0/-0/+14Score on mirror)5 children
Tried already. No luck.
Dad: Literally doesn't give a shit. He just wants to grill for God's sake.
Mom: Mind raped Christian Zionist boomer. She has an authentic fight or flight response to any redpilled topic I bring up. As soon as I start producing receipts for what I'm saying, she physically shuts down the conversation or runs away.
Grandma: Mind raped Christian Zionist, Goyest Generation edition. She screamed in my face at the top of her lungs when I blasphemed the Holohoax.
Brother: Listened uncomfortably to the information, but explicitly told me that he doesn't actually want to know the truth. He wants to live as a normie because it's easier to consoom and not care about anything. Now actively avoids me since then.
Other brother: Isn't around much. Only immediate family I haven't made a direct attempt to redpill yet, though he gave canned NPC responses to the times I've teased it.
It's thoroughly a wash for my line, unfortunately. I've earned my stripes trying, and I'd rather just keep the peace this year.
1 year ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)1 child
Named the jew, supported RFK Jr for his vaccine stance and getting fluoride out of the water and chemicals out of the food, two of my aunts are going to start carnivore for new years, bitched about the ZOGnald, screenshotted some of the saved ZOGnald posts and shared those to back my point up (it was followed by complete silence, apparently nobody had anything to say one way or the other), then I railed on israel's warmongering relentlessly.
I did say "I don't hate israel because it's full of jews, I hate israel because it's committing genocide." Of course I hate jews, but I figure going full nazi isn't going to persuade anyone.
My aunt said 60 minutes just did an episode blaming Syria for blowing up their own people with pagers, she said she turned it off because she knew it was israel.
Did anyone see or hear about that 60 minutes by chance?
Also at Thanksgiving I almost exclusively talked about niggers, immigrants, and nigger crimes and everyone's response ranged from mostly in agreement to enthusiastically in agreement.
Before I started these conversations everyone was always keeping shit G or PG rated and middle of the road, moderately center. Turns out almost the entire family doesn't like niggers and is receptive enough to discussing israel's genocidal war.
Also I'm very calm and non-confrontational when I bring up all of this, including niggers, fluoridated water, everything. Very laid back, kind of matter-of-factly. "Look at this, this is crazy..." hold up picture of Gaza 2023 vs 2024. "Went from holocaust to committing genocide in like... 7 decades" Just very casually showing photos and screenshots.
Casual and non-confrontational miniature red pills tend to invite more casual receptiveness.
> *My aunt: "wait, what is that?"*
> *"Gaza before the israeli genocide and then after"*
> "oh my God..."
> "Yea... they've killed hundreds of thousands of women and children and it's still happening." I have no idea how many they've killed, also I couldn't give a fuck less about dead Hamas fighters and supporters. But that isn't my point, my point is "fuck israel".
Also mentioned the October 7th AI videos but didn't show the video about it, 90 minutes of documented evidence is about 89 minutes and 45 seconds too long to share at a family gathering.
i have, they don''t listen. Massive whitepill though is after the attack in germany i heard them say "when is enough enough when will this stop" and i of course got a massive smirk on my face but i doubt this'll be enough to fully change their opinions
With my mom, we have talked in length about it, and she is in agreement on everything except the holocaust, because my Grandfather supposedly did liberate death camps so she refuses to address the possibility that he was confused or lying (My grandma who I was very close to talked about the camps being the same as internment camps for the japs, but of course she was being racist instead of telling what her husband told her). My siblings are all gen-Z so they hate the palestinian killers. My grandma on the other hand is a tougher sell. She believes that Jews are the "chosen" people, but at least she refuses to interpret what that means, as it isn't our place to decide what god has chosen them for. She is of the mindset to leave them to their own devices as long as they leave us alone. She also agrees that they are not above the law, and should be punished like the rest of us for their terrible crimes, so I will let sleeping dogs lie for the rest of it. As for my Dad's family, they dropped the jew long before I was noticing, so I get to be myself with them.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
I've tried before but my parents think they're smarter than me, so I've stopped trying. I know for a fact that if I bring up how Trump isn't any better than Biden they'd have a meltdown.
1 year ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)2 children
>John 7:13 Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews.
The disciples and Jesus hid, and did not speak openly of Jesus, for fear of THE JEWS. A people apart from their own. An adversarial group. A group they were not a part of. They hid for fear of THE JEWS, not of their own kin.
1 year ago8 points(+0/-0/+8Score on mirror)2 children
What a reach... Jesus and his disciples aren't even present in that verse, in context. The only two participant groups in the scene being described are the Pharisees/Jews looking for Jesus, and the people whispering amongst themselves about Jesus, who fear said Jews. Jesus himself is not being identified with a group on either side of the verse you quoted.
> 2 Samuel 2:4: "Then the men of Judah came to Hebron, and there they anointed David king over the tribe of Judah."
> Matthew 1:1-2: "This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham: Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob..."
> Hebrews 7:14
"For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah..."
"Muh Israelites." Yeah, there *were* twelve tribes of Israel, which were apparently distinct groups, but the tribe of Judah is the one specifically from which we get ethnic Jews, literally in the name. Jesus is explicitly stated to trace his genealogy through this line.
> Luke 2:21: "On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus..."
> Luke 2:41-42: "Every year Jesus’ parents went to Jerusalem for the Festival of the Passover. When he was twelve years old, they went up to the festival, according to the custom."
He was circumcised and celebrated Passover.
> John 4:22: "You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews."
Jesus himself identifying with the Jewish ethnic group.
> 1. John 1:38
"Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, 'What do you want?' They said, 'Rabbi' (which means Teacher), 'where are you staying?'"
> 2. John 1:49
"Then Nathanael declared, 'Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.'"
> 3. John 3:2
"He came to Jesus at night and said, 'Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.'"
> 4. Mark 11:21
"Peter remembered and said to Jesus, 'Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!'"
> 5. John 9:2
"His disciples asked Him, 'Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?'"
Rabbi.
> John 4:9
"The Samaritan woman said to Him, ‘How is it that you, a Jew, ask for a drink from me, a woman of Samaria?’"
Presented without comment.
It's all right there, bro. I'm not the schizo for believing what the text plainly says to your face.
That was an amazing response and I greatly enjoyed reading it. No pointless insults, started off with a rebuttal to the previous argument, and has a bunch of verses that plainly support yours. A testament to why it’s important to actually read the Bible.
Typically, it's supposed to be a smuggie gotcha, referring to the belief that Jesus was not a Jew religiously, even if he was racially (which is debatable in itself.)
However, they rarely elaborate this point to people who express your understandable confusion, instead laughing you off in scorn for not knowing their little inside joke.
This is why I always point out the very specific tidbit of Jesus being an *ethnic* Jew, which he was.
1 year ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)2 children
Yeah. *Was*. As in, *no longer is*. The crucial thing you fail to understand is that the kikes of today have nothing in common with the jews of the OT. They are not even the same ethnic group. They simply usurped the title to trick stupid people. They admit to all this, too.
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The kikes were *there* in Jesus' time, and they had done what kikes always do. Subverted their way to the top (pharisees et al.) and were corrupting all the common people below. The reversal of which was literally Jesus' entire mission here on earth. But they were very markedly a *different group of people* than everybody else.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)2 children
Nothing in common, you say?
So you're saying the group of people in biblical times referred to as Jews who practiced circumcision, followed the levitical law, and subverted their way up through society don't have so much as a chromosome in common with the group of people referred to as Jews who practice circumcision, follow the levitical law, and subvert their way up through society today?
In a stroke of cunning, are the so called "Jews" of current year only *playing* at having an obsession with genital mutilation, in an attempt to better connect themselves to the story of 1 Samuel 18, wherein King Saul has David bring him the foreskins of 200 slaughtered Philistines in exchange for his daughter?
If you really knew about circumcision, you would know that the very practice of it today is radically different than the one that was practiced 2,000 years ago (even though the jews still had it wrong back then). You would know that that was one of the things changed in the overhauls of judaism following the events of 70-132 AD when it was mutated by the kikes into the goyim destruction machine we see today, culminating with the creation of the talmud in ~500AD. This so-called "judaism" of today is *again* not at all in common with even the religion practiced by who I would dub the "good jews" of back then, the ones who all correctly recognized Jesus as the messiah and who abandoned judaism as they were supposed to, because the kikes changed it all post-Hadrian by converting it to the satanic black-magic practice it is now. Neither the same are the ethnic groups behind it. Like I said, the kike element was always *there* (their leaders such as david the adulterer and bloodthirsty warmongerer, and solomon the moloch worshipper are examples of this) but they did not make of the *entirety* of the jewish ethnic group until all the other "good jews" up and bailed.
Sure. Because most people, including many of /ourguys/, are either too shortsighted or too historically illiterate to recognize the important distinction. This is exactly why the kikes assumed the mantle so hard, to try and keep Christians fooled. The early Christians were not fooled however. Saint John Chrysostom has some excellent homilies about this.
Ya Jesus was a Jew, possible of the benjamin tribe through mary. And the whole reason they killed him was because he said they weren't any different then gentiles, as everyone has the choice of salvation through him and him alone. Basically threw the Jew privilege away and they couldn't accept that.
Jesus and almost everyone he interacted with practiced some form of Second Temple Judaism Uou can colloquially say he was a Jew even if that is a modern term.
Ἰουδαῖοι (Ioudaioi) did have a broader meaning in the Levant, but by the time of the birth of Jesus, the term was VERY solidly an ethnoreligious term connected to Second Temple Judaism, even if also still occasionally used to describe region or tribal identity.
By the time we get to, say, Matthew 27:37 it is VERY if not completely used as an ethnoreligious identity.
Dad: Literally doesn't give a shit. He just wants to grill for God's sake.
Mom: Mind raped Christian Zionist boomer. She has an authentic fight or flight response to any redpilled topic I bring up. As soon as I start producing receipts for what I'm saying, she physically shuts down the conversation or runs away.
Grandma: Mind raped Christian Zionist, Goyest Generation edition. She screamed in my face at the top of her lungs when I blasphemed the Holohoax.
Brother: Listened uncomfortably to the information, but explicitly told me that he doesn't actually want to know the truth. He wants to live as a normie because it's easier to consoom and not care about anything. Now actively avoids me since then.
Other brother: Isn't around much. Only immediate family I haven't made a direct attempt to redpill yet, though he gave canned NPC responses to the times I've teased it.
It's thoroughly a wash for my line, unfortunately. I've earned my stripes trying, and I'd rather just keep the peace this year.
this is brutal, i have personally experienced this many times