1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)3 children
I don't get the hate for EVs. They can be fueled at home, unlike gas cars. They have very few moving parts compared to gas cars, which means maintenance costs long-term are much lower (unless you have a Tesla which monopolizes repairs). They usually have extra storage space since electric motors are much smaller and simpler than internal combustion engines. The only argument against EVs is that they're not widespread enough yet to be able to effortlessly find a fueling location or a repair shop like you can for gas cars... But that argument is mercilessly being eroded as more people get EVs and subsequently more infrastructure is built for them.
1 year ago9 points(+0/-0/+9Score on mirror)1 child
The current battery technology is a complete joke. You have to factor in prevailing winds and expected A/C use to get any useful "range estimate" while travelling. The whole goddamn thing is so heavy it blows through tires which eats into your "maintenance savings" on those $50 oil changes. Laughably these things still have to have a separate 12V battery because they can't even figure basic usability out and if that dies you are 100% fucked anyways. Oh and have fun towing that heavy worthless bitch anywhere when that happens.
They're fucking retarded rich people toys. There is zero usable infrastructure for working people who make the mistake of owning one. After three years they turn into full on money pits and all that EV shit has to get thrown away, or sent to india, so some street shitter can "recycle" it.
Mostly I hate that arrogant dickweeds who have no real experience in the actual world think they're "ready" to be used and push them on people like they're saving the planet or something. South Park Prius fart smelling joke was completely on point.
What's the lifespan of an EV battery? Go ahead and include that as a long-term cost, and then compare it to combustion engine repairs over the same time frame. I think either you're being disingenuous or you're just unaware of the long-term cost comparison. As a 30-year-old, I've owned 2 cars over the past 14 years and paid thousands in repair bills and some ungodly amount for gas to keep them operational. When I compare this to upkeep costs of an EV over the same time frame, it makes me wish there was a cheaper EV on the market.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
I’ve owned more cars than I can remember. Buy a toyota camry and you can literally not change the oil once (not recommended) and it’ll still outlast any junk EV car you throw at it.
> I think either you're being disingenuous or you're just unaware of the long-term cost comparison.
You think wrong. And you’re ignorant. It’s not my job to educate you. Do some research into the issues EVs face, it’s more than just “not enough charging stations”.
Theres a reason why most companies are regretting ever building these junk cars that nobody wants to buy.
> and some ungodly amount for gas to keep them operational.
You must think electricity is free lmao.
> When I compare this to upkeep costs of an EV over the same time frame
You are the type of person to think a balloon loan is a good idea. Because thats what an EV is in terms of maintenance.
I don't think electricity is free, but I know that the efficiency of converting fuel into energy in a power plant is orders of magnitude higher than converting fuel into energy in a car engine.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
The real reason (((they))) push it is because China can't produce a functional internal combustion engine like White countries can, it requires precision and you simply can't cheat with mechanical stuff.
By forcing EVs you give China an advantage because the battery is just a soggy bag of chemicals, so simple that even bugmen can produce it cheap using slave labor and cheat as they always do. This will not only kill the western car industry, but also flood our roads with inferior cars full of (((planned obsolesce))) that lacks basic safety and will blow up at any time.
> I don't get the hate for EVs. They can be fueled at home, unlike gas cars.
This is stupid, get a few jerry cans and you can fill up your car at home any time you want. Much safer than charging too. BTW, did you know that gas station are controlled environments, safe from accidents such as fire or explosions, unlike your home? Refueling/charging is a risky task, and nothing you want to do too close to your house in case something explodes.
> They have very few moving parts compared to gas cars
Volvos redblock engine can outlive you if you as a kid gets to inherit your grandpas old 240. I wouldn't be too worried about muh moving parts. Just change oil and filters regularly and the engine will run forever. Unlike batteries which will only last for 10 years at most.
> The only argument against EVs is that they're not widespread enough yet to be able to effortlessly find a fueling location or a repair shop like you can for gas cars... But that argument is mercilessly being eroded as more people get EVs and subsequently more infrastructure is built for them.
Any man can repair a car with an internal combustion engine anywhere, using basic tools, you can also transport liquid fuel much easier, even if the nearest gas station would be hundreds of miles away.
You can't fix an EV (or most complex electric appliances), either it works or it doesn't. The power grid also don't reach far outside the cities with enough power to run a charger that can recharge in a significant time, say less than an hour. This makes them useless for long trips. A city car basically. And why the hell would you need a car if you live in a city that has buses, trains and nice bicycle lanes.
A lot of this is just arguments for gas cars, which is fine. I certainly don't want to ban them. I think everyone should be able to choose what they think works better for them. So I don't get the foaming at the mouth hatred for EVs.
That's alright, I can respect that. Most of my hate is against the jew anyway, EVs shouldn't have subsidies or be able to drive around tax free while I have to pay insane taxes for my gas cars. Us gas car drivers are actually dependent on our cars unlike EV drivers. It's not too much to demand same tax rate for everyone, because roads cost money to build and maintain and someone has to pay for it. Heck I'm all for a fat tax on people walking on sidewalks too, because fat people causes more wear on those paths.
They're fucking retarded rich people toys. There is zero usable infrastructure for working people who make the mistake of owning one. After three years they turn into full on money pits and all that EV shit has to get thrown away, or sent to india, so some street shitter can "recycle" it.
Mostly I hate that arrogant dickweeds who have no real experience in the actual world think they're "ready" to be used and push them on people like they're saving the planet or something. South Park Prius fart smelling joke was completely on point.
Yeah until you need to replace the battery and its a $15k repair bill at the minimum.
> The only argument against EVs is that they're not widespread enough yet to be able to effortlessly find a fueling location
Thats the “only” argument? I see why you don’t understand the hate for EVs.
> I think either you're being disingenuous or you're just unaware of the long-term cost comparison.
You think wrong. And you’re ignorant. It’s not my job to educate you. Do some research into the issues EVs face, it’s more than just “not enough charging stations”.
Theres a reason why most companies are regretting ever building these junk cars that nobody wants to buy.
> and some ungodly amount for gas to keep them operational.
You must think electricity is free lmao.
> When I compare this to upkeep costs of an EV over the same time frame
You are the type of person to think a balloon loan is a good idea. Because thats what an EV is in terms of maintenance.
By forcing EVs you give China an advantage because the battery is just a soggy bag of chemicals, so simple that even bugmen can produce it cheap using slave labor and cheat as they always do. This will not only kill the western car industry, but also flood our roads with inferior cars full of (((planned obsolesce))) that lacks basic safety and will blow up at any time.
> I don't get the hate for EVs. They can be fueled at home, unlike gas cars.
This is stupid, get a few jerry cans and you can fill up your car at home any time you want. Much safer than charging too. BTW, did you know that gas station are controlled environments, safe from accidents such as fire or explosions, unlike your home? Refueling/charging is a risky task, and nothing you want to do too close to your house in case something explodes.
> They have very few moving parts compared to gas cars
Volvos redblock engine can outlive you if you as a kid gets to inherit your grandpas old 240. I wouldn't be too worried about muh moving parts. Just change oil and filters regularly and the engine will run forever. Unlike batteries which will only last for 10 years at most.
> The only argument against EVs is that they're not widespread enough yet to be able to effortlessly find a fueling location or a repair shop like you can for gas cars... But that argument is mercilessly being eroded as more people get EVs and subsequently more infrastructure is built for them.
Any man can repair a car with an internal combustion engine anywhere, using basic tools, you can also transport liquid fuel much easier, even if the nearest gas station would be hundreds of miles away.
You can't fix an EV (or most complex electric appliances), either it works or it doesn't. The power grid also don't reach far outside the cities with enough power to run a charger that can recharge in a significant time, say less than an hour. This makes them useless for long trips. A city car basically. And why the hell would you need a car if you live in a city that has buses, trains and nice bicycle lanes.
EVs are retarded.