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posted 1 year ago by BeNotAfraid on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +14Score on mirror )
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devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Thats because fascism (and by extension national socialism) is not far right at all. That is what they lie to you about. Fascism is far left wing and far right wing but not centrist either (i will be using the word fascism exclusively for posterity's sake). Why is fascism left wing and right wing? How the fuck does that even make sense?

First off, fascisms leftist points: Fascism is innately tied to socialism because of Mussolini's past as not only a socialist but as a bleeding red marxist prior to penning fascism. Fascism is also tied to sorelian marxism (which is *significantly* different from marxism as per Marx, but still left wing, do some research on Sorelianism).

Fascism is as inherently opposed to reaction as much as communism is (*kameraden die rotfront und reaktion erschossen*). Both communism and fascism seek to uproot society and implement a new order. Both are anti private minded and are collectivist ideologies to a point (okay, collectivism is actually right wing, but in common discourse it is a left wing ideology because of bolshevism incorporating collectivism)

So based off of these points, fascism is radical left

However, fascism also has right wing points:

The difference between race and sex are acknowledged openly

Religion is a key point of any fascist society and fascism is by nature hostile towards atheistic, freemason, and jewish movements

Fascism reimplements a strict hierarchy into society

Fascism is anti democratic.

The last points are very well known by everyone here which is why I didn't go over much with this, but the left wing points of fascism are not very well known. Which is why I say that fascism exists both on the radical right as well as the radical left which takes it off of the political spectrum almost entirely because it doesn't fit on the center either.

The actual right wing are conservatives and reactionaries which fascism has always been against even more than it was with communism in its nascent years. The fascists of Italy *loathed* the house of Savoy but were not all inherently opposed to the USSR as a for instance. Hitlers biggest opponents were not the KPD but were the establishment bureaucrats that made up germanys conservative and monarchist right wing and which hampered any progress from being made.

Conservatives are the enemy.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>Hitlers biggest opponents were not the KPD but were the establishment bureaucrats that made up germanys conservative and monarchist right wing and which hampered any progress from being made.

Which, hitler ironically, and probably correctly, acknowledges were the reason the monarchy declined in the first place, because they were more prone to brown-nosing the current monarch than they were to giving him good advice.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
That is one of the issues with modern day monarchy

But there's one huge reason why monarchy doesn't really work anymore and why fascism has always been in opposition to it as effectively its modern day replacement:

Monarchs and aristocrats are inherently at odds with the bourgeoisie of both the petty and monied variety.

The monarch had to increasingly depend on taxes and loans coming from the wealthy merchant classes in order to pursue great infrastructure projects or wage war. In turn, this led to this bourgeoisie feeling entitled to a say in political matters of their nations, because it was ultimately funded by them. The political tool they found to make themselves heard is the proto-form of Parliament. The roots of the English Civil War are a good example of how that went: pitching aristocrats and the monarch who would not let go of ancient privileges against a growing class of people who held most of the wealth and felt entitled by it.

The growing discontent could either be a monumental disaster such as the case with the French and Russian revolutions or it could be beneficial (well, until recently) such as the case with the American revolution.

This doesn't necessarily have to be correlated with jews. It's more correlated with the natural growth of the bourgeoisie and middle class over the aristocratic class which is unavoidable with the growth of manufacturing and industry. Of course jews took advantage of it, they take advantage of everything, but the collapse of the monarchist system would have happened regardless of their meddling because that rift was wholly organic and growing by the minute.

Fascism solves the issue by being hierarchical but not effectively tied to an aristocracy which was at odds with the bourgeoisie. Furthermore, fascism is class collaborationist, which means that the bourgeoisie, laborers, peasants, and the rich all had a say in how things were done. This is in contrast to monarchy under which everything was relayed back to the head of state through the noble class. Fascism is the answer to the question of retaining hierarchy in an industrialized world in which the old hierarchy is no longer efficient enough to carry out its duties
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Unfortunately, the failure to establish a lasting ruling aristocracy is probably the failure of fascism, there always needs to be a ruling class to establish stability, and that ruling class must come from the nation.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Fascism does have a ruling class, it's just the government. But the fascist government is not inherently in opposition to the bourgeoisie like an aristocracy is

The reason that fascism failed is because the entire world ganged up on it and destroyed it. It was extremely prosperous both in Italy and in Germany before jews decided to wipe it from the face of the earth
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I'm thinking more of like a ruling class by blood that could go underground in the event of a foreign takeover and rally the citizenry under cover, but I guess that would have been wiped out regardless considering the aftermath of WWII was the greatest multinational purge in human history.
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