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1 year ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
>Hitlers biggest opponents were not the KPD but were the establishment bureaucrats that made up germanys conservative and monarchist right wing and which hampered any progress from being made.
Which, hitler ironically, and probably correctly, acknowledges were the reason the monarchy declined in the first place, because they were more prone to brown-nosing the current monarch than they were to giving him good advice.
That is one of the issues with modern day monarchy
But there's one huge reason why monarchy doesn't really work anymore and why fascism has always been in opposition to it as effectively its modern day replacement:
Monarchs and aristocrats are inherently at odds with the bourgeoisie of both the petty and monied variety.
The monarch had to increasingly depend on taxes and loans coming from the wealthy merchant classes in order to pursue great infrastructure projects or wage war. In turn, this led to this bourgeoisie feeling entitled to a say in political matters of their nations, because it was ultimately funded by them. The political tool they found to make themselves heard is the proto-form of Parliament. The roots of the English Civil War are a good example of how that went: pitching aristocrats and the monarch who would not let go of ancient privileges against a growing class of people who held most of the wealth and felt entitled by it.
The growing discontent could either be a monumental disaster such as the case with the French and Russian revolutions or it could be beneficial (well, until recently) such as the case with the American revolution.
This doesn't necessarily have to be correlated with jews. It's more correlated with the natural growth of the bourgeoisie and middle class over the aristocratic class which is unavoidable with the growth of manufacturing and industry. Of course jews took advantage of it, they take advantage of everything, but the collapse of the monarchist system would have happened regardless of their meddling because that rift was wholly organic and growing by the minute.
Fascism solves the issue by being hierarchical but not effectively tied to an aristocracy which was at odds with the bourgeoisie. Furthermore, fascism is class collaborationist, which means that the bourgeoisie, laborers, peasants, and the rich all had a say in how things were done. This is in contrast to monarchy under which everything was relayed back to the head of state through the noble class. Fascism is the answer to the question of retaining hierarchy in an industrialized world in which the old hierarchy is no longer efficient enough to carry out its duties
Unfortunately, the failure to establish a lasting ruling aristocracy is probably the failure of fascism, there always needs to be a ruling class to establish stability, and that ruling class must come from the nation.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
Fascism does have a ruling class, it's just the government. But the fascist government is not inherently in opposition to the bourgeoisie like an aristocracy is
The reason that fascism failed is because the entire world ganged up on it and destroyed it. It was extremely prosperous both in Italy and in Germany before jews decided to wipe it from the face of the earth
I'm thinking more of like a ruling class by blood that could go underground in the event of a foreign takeover and rally the citizenry under cover, but I guess that would have been wiped out regardless considering the aftermath of WWII was the greatest multinational purge in human history.
Which, hitler ironically, and probably correctly, acknowledges were the reason the monarchy declined in the first place, because they were more prone to brown-nosing the current monarch than they were to giving him good advice.
But there's one huge reason why monarchy doesn't really work anymore and why fascism has always been in opposition to it as effectively its modern day replacement:
Monarchs and aristocrats are inherently at odds with the bourgeoisie of both the petty and monied variety.
The monarch had to increasingly depend on taxes and loans coming from the wealthy merchant classes in order to pursue great infrastructure projects or wage war. In turn, this led to this bourgeoisie feeling entitled to a say in political matters of their nations, because it was ultimately funded by them. The political tool they found to make themselves heard is the proto-form of Parliament. The roots of the English Civil War are a good example of how that went: pitching aristocrats and the monarch who would not let go of ancient privileges against a growing class of people who held most of the wealth and felt entitled by it.
The growing discontent could either be a monumental disaster such as the case with the French and Russian revolutions or it could be beneficial (well, until recently) such as the case with the American revolution.
This doesn't necessarily have to be correlated with jews. It's more correlated with the natural growth of the bourgeoisie and middle class over the aristocratic class which is unavoidable with the growth of manufacturing and industry. Of course jews took advantage of it, they take advantage of everything, but the collapse of the monarchist system would have happened regardless of their meddling because that rift was wholly organic and growing by the minute.
Fascism solves the issue by being hierarchical but not effectively tied to an aristocracy which was at odds with the bourgeoisie. Furthermore, fascism is class collaborationist, which means that the bourgeoisie, laborers, peasants, and the rich all had a say in how things were done. This is in contrast to monarchy under which everything was relayed back to the head of state through the noble class. Fascism is the answer to the question of retaining hierarchy in an industrialized world in which the old hierarchy is no longer efficient enough to carry out its duties
The reason that fascism failed is because the entire world ganged up on it and destroyed it. It was extremely prosperous both in Italy and in Germany before jews decided to wipe it from the face of the earth