1 year ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)1 child
I ate at a restaurant in Cuba a few years ago. Service was middle tier at best, when my meal was finished the employees swarmed me demanding a tip. I noped the fuck outta there, never returned.
1 year ago6 points(+0/-0/+6Score on mirror)4 children
Agreed. I can give you a very good example which theoretically culturally would be very similar - Cyprus and Greece. Both are basically Greek. In Cyprus tipping seemed to be normal and I swear every time I looked up there was a waiter looking to see if I needed another beer or anything else. In Greece, specifically Corfu, there didn't seem to be much tipping culture. When paying by card it never asked you for a tip. The waiters and waitresses couldn't be fucked. The service was horrible at every restaurant. It was impossible to get anyone's attention after the first order, which really explains why the country is so poor. I could order a beer with my food, finish that beer and not be able to get the attention of anyone to order anything else. It almost felt as if i'm supposed to just eat as quickly as possible and fuck off. One restaurant we went to we sat in a half-filled restaurant for like 30 minutes before a waitress came to get a drink order. She wouldn't take food order, said another guy was for that. We waited another 20 minutes for that guy, our drinks never came so we just got up and left. Frankly the Greek food in Cyprus was much better then in Greece.
1 year ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)1 child
Outside America (((big restaurant chains))) are practically unheard of, if you exclude fast food joints or American chains which are usually pretty bad outside America.
In every country, every city every single restaurant is gonna be independent. If you go to one place that sucks that doesn't mean every other restaurant in that are sucks too, there's a huge difference.
Generally speaking, the more expensive the food is, the better the service is. There's just no way to know ahead which restaurants are good and which are bad unless you know locals who frequently eat at restaurant.
During your trip, how many restaurants did you eat at in each country?
1 year ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)1 child
I was alone with wife both trips, for a week. We'd have hotel breakfast and probably 1-2 times daily some restaurant on both trips. It was humid as hell so we didn't get hungry very often. I don't think we went to the same restaurant twice on either trip.
Greece was pretty bad in almost every place. Cyprus was mostly good in every place, we spent most of our time in the Ayia Napa area. I don't remember anything tasting bad in the entire country, except one place in Paphos near the harbour. The wine was better in Greece, the olive oil was MUCH better in Greece.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)2 children
Sounds reasonable, I never been there myself. All I know is that Cyprus is much more of a tourist destination while Greece is a lazy nation, the people are lazy hence bad service may be common across the country, tho I'm just generalizing.
Their food is great tho, real olive oil not some fake rape seed bullshit or corn syrup or soy extract. Most of EU takes olive oil seriously, but particularly in the south were (((cheaters))) can get long prison sentences for selling fake olive oil.
1 year ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)2 children
I'd be wary of olive oil made by italians, esp if its produced in **Puglia**
those "jews of the mediterranean" do a *wonderful* trick... they buy olive oil in bulk from shithole muslim hellholes like Tunisia, and process them in Italy--then they sell it as "genuine 100% Italian olive oil" with an EU sticker despite the fact the oil itself is made from some shoddy camel-fucker Chemlali olives which tastes suspiciously similar to Leccino (which tastes like nothing, the most tasteless olive cultivar there is)
there is a lot of olive oil fuckery going on in Italy, i would not recommend their oils unless i know a specific winery that produces their own olive oil in addition to wine
I think the tourism might be regional. Everyone I know here in PL has been to Greece, very few have been to Cyprus. Overall I liked Cyprus alot more, it looked entirely liveable too whereas everywhere in Greece looked like 2/3rds of the population abandoned their homes whilst escaping some kind of cataclysm. Abandoned houses, abandoned constructions, garbage everywhere, barely roadworthy cars. You could really see the poverty.
1 year ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)3 children
Where in Greece did that took place exactly?
Greece is a big place, some regions have completely different mentality, but the usual rule is "slowly, slowly" greeks take everything slowly, except driving they drive like Beliar himself was running after them
in restaurants the mentality is similar, you're going to wait for the food to be cooked because they do everything slowly, but because they do everything slowly shit turns out a lot more delicious than frying the shit on the highest heat using goyslop oil
in Rhodes the waiting time was around 15-20 minute for the food to be done, and it was all cooked in OLIVE OIL (authentic Koroneiki)
mainland as well, they cook their fries in olive oil in any small restaurant (non-chain, because chains=owned by jews=goyslop)
usually seasoned with thyme and rosemary because its customary
as for tips... euros don't really care if you leave 20 euro, or 2 euros as long as you leave something, a tip is purely optional
unlike in America its baked into the service fee (which is also an additional charge [also tax] because amerimutts have the jewest culture)
as for Cyprus... it also depends in which city
Paphos was warm and pleasant and the food was great, Limassol... wide selection of cuisines because they have immigrants from all over the world, but the Cypriot food in particular was lackluster
the japanese food was phenomenal though
in Larnaca the Cypriot (i.e Greek) Food was MUCH better
but again this is just my experience and i have may went into the wrong restaurants so my impression is also somewhat biased
as for service... i gotta admit that Cyprus does seem to have quicker waiters & cooks, the average wait time was a lot shorter and the waitresses were definitely faking interest either for good reviews or tip
frankly speaking... i'm not too fond of getting my assed kissed for reviews or tips, it feels jewish/wrong
though i understand where you're coming from, if you go to Italy or FRANCE you're going to get horrendous service because they literally do not care if you tip or not
esp the French, the french treat their customers with such contempt and lack of care that i'd rather just go to a bakery and self-service pay and just eat on a bench like some gypsy
its a lot cheaper as well (restaurants charge double or triple for croissant which is a very basic pastry when you think about it, its just flour, butter and eggs)
20 minutes isn't slow for food to be prepared.
The slow part is the service. Greeting people when they enter the establishment, seating then, taking their drink order, bringing the drinks, taking their food order, clearing the table of dishes, offering refills, brining the check, etc. those require to waiting on the kitchen but lots of places suck at it.
This took place on Corfu. We rented a car and went around the whole island. I haven't been anywhere else in Greece in a while. I was in Athens and Ignominitsa before, but I don't remember specifically if the food was good or bad.
I had a different experience in Cyprus. I found Paphos to be the worst place I went. Pajeet migrants everywhere, for some reason the sea water was much colder while it was as hot if not hotter outside, and too many jews. The fact that I got better service in Cyprus could also be that in Ayia Napa there is a ton of restaurants, so the competition is stiffer so they have to be better. The israeli tourists didn't know how to behave. Apparently they come to Cyprus because it's cheaper then going to the big resort cities in israel. I remember at the pool in one of the hotels there was a group of about 5 or 6 jew guys, early 20s and they were splashing around throwing a ball like retards and being noisy - basically behaving like 5 year olds that see a swimming pool for the first time. Theoretically they weren't doing anything wrong but by our European standards it wasn't really behavior becoming of guests of a 5-star hotel. Then they got into a huge argument with some drunk 20something year old palestinian girl (by accent sounded like she was born in Londonistan). They "told her off" and some old jewish lady started buying them drinks because they were such good boys. I guess the best word for them would be 'inconsiderate'. A friend of mine went on vacation once is israel and said that he wasn't an antisemite until he went there. It was a lot of little things like how no one would temporarily exit an elevator to let you out.
As for Ayia Napa, it was great. My only complaint is that when we went to explore the dance club district (we didn't go into any of the clubs, just wandered around) you would get like 10 bixnoods suddenly blocking your path "hey boss come in here for a drink boss ok boss". Other then that the food was great, the drinks were great, the sea was warm and clear, went scuba diving, boat rental, never felt unsafe other then the nightclub district because of the nogs - great time in general.
yeah its all over Cyprus, when i was in June i went to Omodos because they have very good Commandria wine, the giftshops also had good hazelnut cream liquor and FRESH Soutzoukos
unfortunately one of the traditional goods shop had a pajeet "helper" and this sack of shit was trying to sling me FAKE OLIVE OIL (literally soy oil in a plastic bottle with a half assed hand-written note saying its olive oil) and it was so disgusting when i tasted it i literally went to the female cashier (she was Cypriot) and flat out told her "have you no fucking shame? you hiring dirty pajeets and selling FAKE OLIVE TO TOURISTS in a UNESCO World Heritage Site recognized Village?!"
she profusely apologized and said she's not the owner and just the cashier, i still bought some Soutzoukos but i've let the pajeet know personally that he needs to fuck off back to shithole he came from (of course that little shitskin made a frown and asked "why are you mad sahr? i just try to help")
went to an opposite store, informed the old chain-smoking lady and she told me its a plague all over cyprus, people are hiring these monkeys because they ask for pittance and many employers always look to cut out costs...
even the taxi-driver said the same of all the Niggers who are in EVERY GAS STATION IN THE ENTIRETY OF CYPRUS, every single gas-station (i'm not kidding)
they basically get paid 800 euro monthly (which is undercutting the average salary by a 200-100) so every piece of shit (((Greek))) owner of a chain loves to hire these underpaid monkeys, even in the mall you see them at Kiosks and every other business that is looking to cut down on personnel-costs
i tried the hardest not to spend my money at these businesses and instead spend money at local shops who are owned by old people who make some of the goods they sell (for example Loukoumi, i went to a shop that also doubles as a factory and bought myself a bundle of that sweet sweet delight, went pomegranate and pistachio flavor)
>The israeli tourists didn't know how to behave
i was lucky because my hotel had like what, 2? 3? israelis (it was a 5 star hotel, pretty far from the city but good fucking quality) and **they were quiet as mice**, infact i didn't even know they were israelis until the day they booked out and i noticed they had ISRAIR stickers on their suitcases
but if you go to a hotel populated by israelis they're wild as a pack of boars, its like the nigger effect--a few niggers surrounded by Whites will know how to behave, but a pack of niggers will always be niggerin and hollerin
in my experience Limassol also had a ton of disgusting sand-nigger tourists, they put their shitty music in the bus and spit everywhere
alas its expected because Cyprus geographically close to the levant, hence why all the muslim niggers go there (its also because Cyprus is cheap compared to mainland Europe, and islam-niggers are tolerated far more than in Greece)
i haven't been in Ayia Napa yet, but from your story it sounds like its pleasant minus the Nogs...
Oh god I forgot about the gas stations on Corfu. Most didn't have running water, so you couldn't wash your hands or anything. You also can't flush toilet paper down the toilets in most places except new buildings because the pipes are too narrow.
I didn't see ANY pajeets working in Ayia Napa at all, there weren't really any at all now that I think about it besides maybe tourists. I also did not see any nogs working except those "club promoters" and some jamaican jerk chicken place (which, arguably - if I wanted to eat authentic jerk chicken - is ok). I would say that half the people working in Napa were either UA or RU, the rest Cypriot with a with english sprinkled in here and there.
If you end up going to Napa in the near future, I recommend Amanti MadeForTwo hotel. It was the nicest hotel I have ever been in and fairly close to everything. There's a greek restaurant right next to it that was also the best Greek food I ate ever. There's also a nice dive shop close to there that a Russian woman runs if you want to try scuba.
1 year ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)2 children
this is common in greece as restaurants are severely understaffed. add that to the fact that greeks are generally lazy or just slow in everything they do.
i don't particularly mind, i've had my summer vacations in greece for the last 20 years
I waited in highschool. There was this chick that could handle half the restaurant by herself. We're talking 12-14 tables. No complaints. No fuck ups. She left with a fat wad of cash every night. Meanwhile some waitresses were fumbling with just three tables. I could handle about 7-8 no problem. The typical zone was 5 or 6 tables with four servers.
Some people got the gift. others don't. But tips definitely made that girl hustle.
Fat people are just to impatient to wait for the food. In more rural places even the fast food joints can take up to 15 minutes to process your order. I think that's the minimum time for any place that doesn't have pre-made food sitting in bacteria infested low temperature ovens.
15 for food is not fast food anymore. if i go to a fast food i want to be in and out as fast as possible. that's why you don't go to a fast food that has slow turnover, you go to one that has many orders in and out so that they have a food buffer.
15 minutes or longer for restaurants is fine, but some take inexcusably long, usually because they are understaffed.
my biggest gripe is not necessarily with the food preparation time but with the time the servers take to get your order.
True, I'm just thinking perhaps there's just too many restaurants in relation to number of customers, or too few customers in general in many areas. McDonalds for instance can only work with a steady flow of customers, otherwise they would have to throw away a lot of burgers.
Most places are usually fast during rush hour, lunch and dinner, but anywhere outside of that it's gonna take over 15 minutes, even in "fast food joints". I also wonder if the fatsos have considered the siesta in Spain, basically mid day everything shuts down a few hours, so don't expect to find any lunch place.
Fat tourists are the worst, they show up and expect everything to work just like it does in their home country, any cultural difference is just bad, no understanding for cultural differences or why they exist. They're ignorant and it's everyone's fault except their own.
And those lazy dagos couldn't be fucked to care (been in Italy, similar experience) my experience in Rhodes is very similar to yours in Cyprus, (and i've been in both, impeccable service)
1 year ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)1 child
100%. Nobody here has left their little village so they don't understand that tipping culture in America has produced the best service worldwide, even for small places that serve cheap food.
In every country, every city every single restaurant is gonna be independent. If you go to one place that sucks that doesn't mean every other restaurant in that are sucks too, there's a huge difference.
Generally speaking, the more expensive the food is, the better the service is. There's just no way to know ahead which restaurants are good and which are bad unless you know locals who frequently eat at restaurant.
During your trip, how many restaurants did you eat at in each country?
Greece was pretty bad in almost every place. Cyprus was mostly good in every place, we spent most of our time in the Ayia Napa area. I don't remember anything tasting bad in the entire country, except one place in Paphos near the harbour. The wine was better in Greece, the olive oil was MUCH better in Greece.
Their food is great tho, real olive oil not some fake rape seed bullshit or corn syrup or soy extract. Most of EU takes olive oil seriously, but particularly in the south were (((cheaters))) can get long prison sentences for selling fake olive oil.
those "jews of the mediterranean" do a *wonderful* trick... they buy olive oil in bulk from shithole muslim hellholes like Tunisia, and process them in Italy--then they sell it as "genuine 100% Italian olive oil" with an EU sticker despite the fact the oil itself is made from some shoddy camel-fucker Chemlali olives which tastes suspiciously similar to Leccino (which tastes like nothing, the most tasteless olive cultivar there is)
there is a lot of olive oil fuckery going on in Italy, i would not recommend their oils unless i know a specific winery that produces their own olive oil in addition to wine
Greece is a big place, some regions have completely different mentality, but the usual rule is "slowly, slowly" greeks take everything slowly, except driving they drive like Beliar himself was running after them
in restaurants the mentality is similar, you're going to wait for the food to be cooked because they do everything slowly, but because they do everything slowly shit turns out a lot more delicious than frying the shit on the highest heat using goyslop oil
in Rhodes the waiting time was around 15-20 minute for the food to be done, and it was all cooked in OLIVE OIL (authentic Koroneiki)
mainland as well, they cook their fries in olive oil in any small restaurant (non-chain, because chains=owned by jews=goyslop)
usually seasoned with thyme and rosemary because its customary
as for tips... euros don't really care if you leave 20 euro, or 2 euros as long as you leave something, a tip is purely optional
unlike in America its baked into the service fee (which is also an additional charge [also tax] because amerimutts have the jewest culture)
as for Cyprus... it also depends in which city
Paphos was warm and pleasant and the food was great, Limassol... wide selection of cuisines because they have immigrants from all over the world, but the Cypriot food in particular was lackluster
the japanese food was phenomenal though
in Larnaca the Cypriot (i.e Greek) Food was MUCH better
but again this is just my experience and i have may went into the wrong restaurants so my impression is also somewhat biased
as for service... i gotta admit that Cyprus does seem to have quicker waiters & cooks, the average wait time was a lot shorter and the waitresses were definitely faking interest either for good reviews or tip
frankly speaking... i'm not too fond of getting my assed kissed for reviews or tips, it feels jewish/wrong
though i understand where you're coming from, if you go to Italy or FRANCE you're going to get horrendous service because they literally do not care if you tip or not
esp the French, the french treat their customers with such contempt and lack of care that i'd rather just go to a bakery and self-service pay and just eat on a bench like some gypsy
its a lot cheaper as well (restaurants charge double or triple for croissant which is a very basic pastry when you think about it, its just flour, butter and eggs)
The slow part is the service. Greeting people when they enter the establishment, seating then, taking their drink order, bringing the drinks, taking their food order, clearing the table of dishes, offering refills, brining the check, etc. those require to waiting on the kitchen but lots of places suck at it.
that way i can tell them and see when the food is ready to deliver
if the place is empty and i'm solo, i can sit on the bar you get the fastest service that way.
I had a different experience in Cyprus. I found Paphos to be the worst place I went. Pajeet migrants everywhere, for some reason the sea water was much colder while it was as hot if not hotter outside, and too many jews. The fact that I got better service in Cyprus could also be that in Ayia Napa there is a ton of restaurants, so the competition is stiffer so they have to be better. The israeli tourists didn't know how to behave. Apparently they come to Cyprus because it's cheaper then going to the big resort cities in israel. I remember at the pool in one of the hotels there was a group of about 5 or 6 jew guys, early 20s and they were splashing around throwing a ball like retards and being noisy - basically behaving like 5 year olds that see a swimming pool for the first time. Theoretically they weren't doing anything wrong but by our European standards it wasn't really behavior becoming of guests of a 5-star hotel. Then they got into a huge argument with some drunk 20something year old palestinian girl (by accent sounded like she was born in Londonistan). They "told her off" and some old jewish lady started buying them drinks because they were such good boys. I guess the best word for them would be 'inconsiderate'. A friend of mine went on vacation once is israel and said that he wasn't an antisemite until he went there. It was a lot of little things like how no one would temporarily exit an elevator to let you out.
As for Ayia Napa, it was great. My only complaint is that when we went to explore the dance club district (we didn't go into any of the clubs, just wandered around) you would get like 10 bixnoods suddenly blocking your path "hey boss come in here for a drink boss ok boss". Other then that the food was great, the drinks were great, the sea was warm and clear, went scuba diving, boat rental, never felt unsafe other then the nightclub district because of the nogs - great time in general.
yeah its all over Cyprus, when i was in June i went to Omodos because they have very good Commandria wine, the giftshops also had good hazelnut cream liquor and FRESH Soutzoukos
unfortunately one of the traditional goods shop had a pajeet "helper" and this sack of shit was trying to sling me FAKE OLIVE OIL (literally soy oil in a plastic bottle with a half assed hand-written note saying its olive oil) and it was so disgusting when i tasted it i literally went to the female cashier (she was Cypriot) and flat out told her "have you no fucking shame? you hiring dirty pajeets and selling FAKE OLIVE TO TOURISTS in a UNESCO World Heritage Site recognized Village?!"
she profusely apologized and said she's not the owner and just the cashier, i still bought some Soutzoukos but i've let the pajeet know personally that he needs to fuck off back to shithole he came from (of course that little shitskin made a frown and asked "why are you mad sahr? i just try to help")
went to an opposite store, informed the old chain-smoking lady and she told me its a plague all over cyprus, people are hiring these monkeys because they ask for pittance and many employers always look to cut out costs...
even the taxi-driver said the same of all the Niggers who are in EVERY GAS STATION IN THE ENTIRETY OF CYPRUS, every single gas-station (i'm not kidding)
they basically get paid 800 euro monthly (which is undercutting the average salary by a 200-100) so every piece of shit (((Greek))) owner of a chain loves to hire these underpaid monkeys, even in the mall you see them at Kiosks and every other business that is looking to cut down on personnel-costs
i tried the hardest not to spend my money at these businesses and instead spend money at local shops who are owned by old people who make some of the goods they sell (for example Loukoumi, i went to a shop that also doubles as a factory and bought myself a bundle of that sweet sweet delight, went pomegranate and pistachio flavor)
>The israeli tourists didn't know how to behave
i was lucky because my hotel had like what, 2? 3? israelis (it was a 5 star hotel, pretty far from the city but good fucking quality) and **they were quiet as mice**, infact i didn't even know they were israelis until the day they booked out and i noticed they had ISRAIR stickers on their suitcases
but if you go to a hotel populated by israelis they're wild as a pack of boars, its like the nigger effect--a few niggers surrounded by Whites will know how to behave, but a pack of niggers will always be niggerin and hollerin
in my experience Limassol also had a ton of disgusting sand-nigger tourists, they put their shitty music in the bus and spit everywhere
alas its expected because Cyprus geographically close to the levant, hence why all the muslim niggers go there (its also because Cyprus is cheap compared to mainland Europe, and islam-niggers are tolerated far more than in Greece)
i haven't been in Ayia Napa yet, but from your story it sounds like its pleasant minus the Nogs...
I didn't see ANY pajeets working in Ayia Napa at all, there weren't really any at all now that I think about it besides maybe tourists. I also did not see any nogs working except those "club promoters" and some jamaican jerk chicken place (which, arguably - if I wanted to eat authentic jerk chicken - is ok). I would say that half the people working in Napa were either UA or RU, the rest Cypriot with a with english sprinkled in here and there.
If you end up going to Napa in the near future, I recommend Amanti MadeForTwo hotel. It was the nicest hotel I have ever been in and fairly close to everything. There's a greek restaurant right next to it that was also the best Greek food I ate ever. There's also a nice dive shop close to there that a Russian woman runs if you want to try scuba.
i don't particularly mind, i've had my summer vacations in greece for the last 20 years
Some people got the gift. others don't. But tips definitely made that girl hustle.
15 minutes or longer for restaurants is fine, but some take inexcusably long, usually because they are understaffed.
my biggest gripe is not necessarily with the food preparation time but with the time the servers take to get your order.
Most places are usually fast during rush hour, lunch and dinner, but anywhere outside of that it's gonna take over 15 minutes, even in "fast food joints". I also wonder if the fatsos have considered the siesta in Spain, basically mid day everything shuts down a few hours, so don't expect to find any lunch place.
Fat tourists are the worst, they show up and expect everything to work just like it does in their home country, any cultural difference is just bad, no understanding for cultural differences or why they exist. They're ignorant and it's everyone's fault except their own.
And those lazy dagos couldn't be fucked to care (been in Italy, similar experience) my experience in Rhodes is very similar to yours in Cyprus, (and i've been in both, impeccable service)
Things that correlate can be causal. But you wouldn't understand the nuance of that because you're a fucking midwit.
It's why slave labor is shit quality, because they're not motivated and they don't want to be there.