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1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)2 children
It is better to burn incense humbly on a piece of pine wood than to burn it with arrogance in a golden vessel. God does not care how you burn your incense. The act interacts with you. The God who created the incense is not more favorably invoked because of certain vanities concerning it. It is your soul invoking him because you believe, not incense and not a censer.
You're thinking of sticks of incense, but frankincense and myrrh are resins and have to be burned on coal. Coal will start a fire. There are of course f & m "scented" sticks which are dipped in essential oil at best, or ethyl esters (likely if they don't specifically say essential oils). The problem with those is that essential oils typically don't smell anything like the source material, there are different species of trees that produce f& m and they mostly won't specify which, and most of the incense sticks are made by Jeets, and I don't trust Jeets.
I burnt some on a pine 2x4. The incense burned on the wood without any problems. It took me directly hitting the wood with my torch to get the wood to start burning and it went out within 10 seconds. A torch is a lot hotter than incense coals.
I burn my incense in a little ceramic cup though. If you do burn on wood, probably a good idea to keep an eye on it regardless.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
Most of the censers in churches are brass.
Much of what is in most churches is not gold. Typically gold is reserved for the paten and the chalice. The cost isn't in the materials but in the niche market.
Edit: also.... you said it wasnt about the incense but belief? Try explaining that to Nadab and Abihu.
There have been solid gold censers, I was using two extremes for dramatic effect.
Yes, it is about belief. Ritual brings man closer to God, it does not bring God closer to man. Man becoming closer to God brings God closer to man. A heathen does not become more righteous because he burns the same incense in his vain beliefs. A Christian does not please God more or less because he physically burns the incense in a certain way or other, God is pleased because the incense was burnt in faith.
These things interact with our humanity. The chalice is holy because we have decided it to be holy, therefore it invokes a perception of higher worth than pine board. But God has made both the pine and the chalice, and he has made the incense, and the man who burns it. What has God gained?
Abide in faith, hope and charity. The greatest of these is charity.
Not trying to burn my place down. Putting coals on wood and not expecting fire is retarded.
I'll go burn some on some wood and report back lol. It's been very dry around here.
I burn my incense in a little ceramic cup though. If you do burn on wood, probably a good idea to keep an eye on it regardless.
Much of what is in most churches is not gold. Typically gold is reserved for the paten and the chalice. The cost isn't in the materials but in the niche market.
Edit: also.... you said it wasnt about the incense but belief? Try explaining that to Nadab and Abihu.
Yes, it is about belief. Ritual brings man closer to God, it does not bring God closer to man. Man becoming closer to God brings God closer to man. A heathen does not become more righteous because he burns the same incense in his vain beliefs. A Christian does not please God more or less because he physically burns the incense in a certain way or other, God is pleased because the incense was burnt in faith.
These things interact with our humanity. The chalice is holy because we have decided it to be holy, therefore it invokes a perception of higher worth than pine board. But God has made both the pine and the chalice, and he has made the incense, and the man who burns it. What has God gained?
Abide in faith, hope and charity. The greatest of these is charity.