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PurestEvil on scored.co
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> the former of which believes the number is closer to ~2 million all said and done
Whatever it is, still less deaths than WWII brought plus Soviet and Eisenhower's mass murderings. And mind you, it was *before* the holocaust was even a thing (which happened around 1960-1970). So they hated Germans for other reasons.
> of the numbers of those liquidated by the einsatzgruppen
How many? Because the tale is that they went after oh-so victimized hiding jews, but they were actually there to find terrorists (partisans) who killed Germans and "collaborators", all or most of whom happen to be jews.
> We have post war secret recordings of German pows in prison admitting atrocities.
Never read that. Is there something to read about it? Because committing atrocities is quite common. For example the Soviets raped and murdered Germans en masse as they flood into Germany, but I am sure they didn't worry about committing atrocities at all.
> We have diaries of German soldiers who were tasked with and carried out endless executions.
Ah yes, the Soviets refused to sign the Geneva convention and liked to put Germans into lethal gulags (aka the most deadly ones). And the Soviets didn't give the slightest fuck about their own people either, why would they care about Germans then. How many of their own people did they put into gulags too? A LOT. Solzhenitsyn too.
> To pretend like there wasn't an element within the Nazis that literally wanted to liquidate as many Jews as they could is totally disingenuous.
No. It was never the plan. Sure they disliked jews (WHO DIDN'T?), but there was no extermination program. Actually they arrested and executed a camp commander for murdering some jews and stealing from them.
> They slaughtered 20 million slavs.
They killed soldiers, not civilians. The Russians equipped 1 in 10 of their soldiers with a gun - they committed atrocities against their own soldiers to begin with. They even sent out gulag prisoners into the war to "redeem" themselves from the made up charges. They were absolutely comfortable with the goyim meatgrinder.
> The idea that they couldn't have liquidated a few million jews is really quite silly
Why didn't Germans mass rape their way through everything either? Oh wait, they were the only ones who forbade it and executed their soldiers who did it. That is a logical fallacy. The Germans didn't just went blasting everything that moves. Or do you think they high-fived each other as they shot women and children?
> when you stop and think about it in the broader context.
I did, and it's utterly idiotic to think that.
> but how many Jews died from the Soviets and their scorched earth policies?
The Soviets also turned on the jews, but be assured, it was jews who were in leadership positions. ~85% of the secret police that arrested people to be shipped to gulags, adhered to arrest quotas, were also jews. They HATED Christians with a burning passion, just as jews in israel do today.
Whatever it is, still less deaths than WWII brought plus Soviet and Eisenhower's mass murderings. And mind you, it was *before* the holocaust was even a thing (which happened around 1960-1970). So they hated Germans for other reasons.
> of the numbers of those liquidated by the einsatzgruppen
How many? Because the tale is that they went after oh-so victimized hiding jews, but they were actually there to find terrorists (partisans) who killed Germans and "collaborators", all or most of whom happen to be jews.
> We have post war secret recordings of German pows in prison admitting atrocities.
Never read that. Is there something to read about it? Because committing atrocities is quite common. For example the Soviets raped and murdered Germans en masse as they flood into Germany, but I am sure they didn't worry about committing atrocities at all.
> We have diaries of German soldiers who were tasked with and carried out endless executions.
Ah yes, the Soviets refused to sign the Geneva convention and liked to put Germans into lethal gulags (aka the most deadly ones). And the Soviets didn't give the slightest fuck about their own people either, why would they care about Germans then. How many of their own people did they put into gulags too? A LOT. Solzhenitsyn too.
> To pretend like there wasn't an element within the Nazis that literally wanted to liquidate as many Jews as they could is totally disingenuous.
No. It was never the plan. Sure they disliked jews (WHO DIDN'T?), but there was no extermination program. Actually they arrested and executed a camp commander for murdering some jews and stealing from them.
> They slaughtered 20 million slavs.
They killed soldiers, not civilians. The Russians equipped 1 in 10 of their soldiers with a gun - they committed atrocities against their own soldiers to begin with. They even sent out gulag prisoners into the war to "redeem" themselves from the made up charges. They were absolutely comfortable with the goyim meatgrinder.
> The idea that they couldn't have liquidated a few million jews is really quite silly
Why didn't Germans mass rape their way through everything either? Oh wait, they were the only ones who forbade it and executed their soldiers who did it. That is a logical fallacy. The Germans didn't just went blasting everything that moves. Or do you think they high-fived each other as they shot women and children?
> when you stop and think about it in the broader context.
I did, and it's utterly idiotic to think that.
> but how many Jews died from the Soviets and their scorched earth policies?
The Soviets also turned on the jews, but be assured, it was jews who were in leadership positions. ~85% of the secret police that arrested people to be shipped to gulags, adhered to arrest quotas, were also jews. They HATED Christians with a burning passion, just as jews in israel do today.