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Christianity is nothing without belief in and obedience to Jesus Christ and His church. If you want to join to save your life, race, nation, etc. you're in it for the wrong reason. We Christians know the devil is going to be allowed to trample down everything before God Himself pulls the plug on the whole universe. The reason you join Christianity is to save your soul. This life doesn't last long, but eternity never ends.

I am interested in what you just went thru to drive you to this. You have been a strong advocate for individualism and an opponent to Christianity.


The Bible is essentially a how to manual to create civilization. If followed correctly it will create a patriarchal society. Most people are incapable of governing themselves thus we've always forced rules upon them. The Christian norms are the ones that work.


What did you just experience? I'm not the only one that will be curious.

>I consider it to be a jewish backdoor into functioning White societies

You dismiss God and His perfect past, present and future foundational teachings for White civilization for over two millennium because some kikes wrote the Scofield bible during WW1?

> I'm completely willing to hear other suggestions for the best way to culturally program White normies, but I don't see a better one anywhere.

It has to be religion, and it would be better if it's a better version of Christianity.

> But the Founders were too liberal in their suffrage

Ah yes, when they said only White men who own property should vote, clearly it meant random incest nigger imports should get positions of power as they get voted in by hordes of illegal somalis, kikes and brainwashed women.

> and it led to universal suffrage, which is ~anarchy

Oh you mean 0% taxes and being self-sufficient, having full freedom of association, even having your own police force like the KKK? Oh, not that kind of anarchy huh? You mean kikery.

> Because freedom has a pinnacle, and if you keep pushing for "more freedom" after that, you end up with less freedom.

What freedoms do you think the US has which Europe do not? Guns? Well, you are inundated with volatile niggers, you need guns just to survive a chimp-out. Free speech? That's over too, take Shiloh Hendrix as the newest example. You cannot say slurs anywhere, jews own 96%+ of television, radio, social media is widely either owned by jews or cucking on their behalf, banks can debank you, electric bills can get to $500+ due to data centers. The courts and police are also machines producing injustice against Whites - which arguably does interfere with freedoms.

In Europe our governments fuck us (varies by country), in the US government proxies, big corporations, fuck you.

> Can I be a White-Christian nationalist while not being a Christian?

The point is to be openly racist. To stand for your own people, Whites, and discriminate against others. To discriminate against faggots, queers, trannies and other degenerates. To have an "irrational"/"radical" sense of favoring your own kind over others as you seek the best for your people.

The cause for our problems isn't just a decline in religion, which is indeed bad, it's the extreme prevalence of kike ideology that exists. Remove the kike problem, and watch how religion returns to people.

I feel very similarly. Something I often like to say is that Christianity is essentially the Toyota Corolla of moral value systems. It just works. Even if the specific theology surrounding it in any given instance is basic bitch (Baptist) or even kind of retarded (Pentecostal), rigorously applying its basic principles to any given society will give you peace, order, and the proliferation of life.

I used to be an extremely aggressive anti-Christian poster on here, but in my case I was literally the cliche. I actually believe Christianity at the gut level, and that belief is what drove the rage. It holds a mirror up to my own degeneracy that causes me to experience crippling despair when I realize how far gone I am. Attacking it was the only way I felt like I could regain agency over the feeling.

Now I just sit with it. After a certain point it becomes too exhausting to keep fighting God, insisting that he is not real, or evil, when you know the opposite to be true. Another reason I wish society was Christian is so that it would rein in my *own* behavior. I came from an upbringing that led me down a dark path, and I've needed a healthy authority figure for decades to tell me "Stop. This is wrong. Do this instead."

So I suppose that's sort of its own eyes-wide-shut blackpill. It's possible to live out the normie's spiritual decay while being completely cognizant of it as it happens, which is its own kind of torment. Either such person would be much better off if civilization was still stringently Christian (and White, of course.)

The modern world is what you get when you love your enemies.

How can Christianity be jewish when Christianity began when God used the Word to create everything and judaism began in 300 AD with the writing of the talmud? How can Christianity be jewish when Jesus literally said jews aren't the Israelites/Hebrews but the children of satan, incapable of nothing but lying and evil and the synagogue of satan? How can it be jewish when Jesus said He only came for the White race, specifically denying jews?

They just need 'not-Enlightenment ideology', which, since you are viewing belief systems instrumentally, gives plenty of possible options. European history is more fruitful than any other in that regard. People thinking like that only need what 'just works' rather than what has absolute certainty. Whether they're running around quoting Aristotle, Epicurus, Descartes, Leibniz, or someone else, as long as they aren't following the line that goes from Spinoza, through Locke, the Founders, Mill, Russell, Dewey, to Popper, or anything that branches off of that line, like Marx and his myriad acolytes, Freud and his myriad acolytes, and those like Rothbard, they're better off than they are at present. That line is the line of the yids and the mentally Judaized. Venturing back and forth around the modern ideologies and philosophies is to remain stuck in 'Enlightenment'. Even fascism is too compromised with that line to present any full solution.

> NPCs/normies have no moral compass.

Human nature is too blank, mixed, evil, or any combination thereof for them to actually have a moral compass by nature.

Liberalism and its offshoots, by contrast, bank on them actually having a fully formed, strong moral sense from the get-go. Hence the lack of moral education and the descent of education into purely skills-based education, belief in unilinear progress (if people are actually good-natured, the passage of time should consistently beget progress; the less good-natured that people are, the more the idea of progress becomes subject to doubt), and other deep-rooted mistakes.

I was an outright atheist. It wasn't any denomination that bought me to Jesus, it was years of trying to figure out what was going on, what was always the ultimate target to attack and depopulate (Christianity) and it was his book that always seemed to be right when everything else was lies. The book that warned of the Star of Chiun/Remphan Saturn of Edomites roleplaying as jews, foretold their ultimate doom, foretold that their goal would be to establish the "vision" third temple that denies the body of Christ in Daniel. Boaz and Jachin from Solomon's temple are used in all the Masonic societies for a reason. The third temple. They have perverted those twin towers (see Building 7 being leased by the Salomon brothers for their INSIDE JOKE) to mean the left and right hand path of the occult, the knowledge of good and evil that they ultimately think will grant them immortality.

Even the upcoming counterfeit miracles alien threat (hell they flew around car sized drones a few years ago in a beta test) is there in 2 Thes 2 and Daniel with the "alien god no one knows, a god of fortresses". We have been prepped for this from childhood from space agencies all around the world (and I was a big Star Trek guy) that all cohencidentally have a forked sepent tongue on their logo, which was also the Star Trek logo. Look at Werner Von Braun's grave. The "father of NASA" and the SATURN rocket. What bible verse did he put there and why has that verse been so butchered in translations? Every single country. It's all Masonic/occult society leaders who pray at the wailing wall and who are traitors to their country.

Oh there might be other countries or races versions of masons (blacks have Boule and Prince Hall as an example and fraternties like Alpha Phi Alpha and any fraternity with the Sphinx/Egypt), but they all have the same goal. A third temple. White Masons in the West are just the continuation of the Templars which is why Masons send their children to the DeMolay International society that honors the Templar founder. The Templars were two men on a horse faggots engaging in sex magic, who were occultists with the same goal, obsessed with power and the artifact (Nephilim play a big role in this because they believe they transcended) and engaged in the same usury as jews did. That was why they were killed. Only jews are allowed that by the hijacked church which was completely gone when Jesuit jewish conversos were fully accepted in, after people repeatedly tried to kick them out. We were enslaved with usury and finance.

Countries that kicked the jews or Masons out were treated the harshest. Russia and Germany would be two examples. Mass genocide, mass rape of Germanywomen all as payback for what leaders did kicking out Masons/jews. The third temple is to house Satan (probably be presented as an alien), whom they gave the honorific Lucifer (lightbringer) which they have as an AL date on their stupid magic "lodges". They don't believe ANYTHING they tell us. Nothing. Not the timeline (again see A.L. timeline), not the "Universe" as they present it. Nothing. They 100 percent believe in the biblical account, but just view God as Saturn and dualistic and think Satan (Zeus would be one version of him and his father was Saturn) can grant them immortality without Saturn's consent and they think that Jesus is soft and will just let them have the Earth and take his people away. It's why you have stories of Hercules attaining godhood.

They think Zeus/Satan can elevate us through magic rituals, DNA, treatments etc and it's why Masonry and the occult varies across the world. It's based on the local Nephilim who they think transcended death and who exist as the "spirits" and you find all these beliefs in the book of Enoch. The ceremonies and rites for the "elite" is trying to summon the Nephilim spirit who were worshiped as god's all over the Earth (again this is why you have a separate Masonry for blacks as they follow the Egyptian "demigods") and to become possessed and empowered by them and they think they are in a kind of limbo and that they almost achieved immortality. It's the very first lie Satan told to Eve. You positively will not die. That is probably the mark of the beast. Accepting that rebellion against God. Accepting that "gift" from Satan who will be presented as a benefactor. In Revelation people look for death but cannot find it. It's not going to go how they think.

Jesus did not come "to be soft" and to take his people and leave. He came to take the kingship and priesthoods away from even his own "chosen" people, because man proved he has no right to rule over another. Even the best of us like David were flawed and didn't give his brother justice. He told Israel IMMEDIATELY that he was their king but that he would allow them to have a king and that the king would take their best land, women, animals. He showed that they hate him without reason when he sacrificed himself and lived as us so we would understand he could understand us. The crap we go through. He went through all of it and worse.

He isn't going to let them go and though it's far too late for any resistance because just about every country has a leader praying at the wailing wall for the third temple, he will give us justice in the end. It's all we have and when you lose that hope you have nothing in your life. You doomscroll, you become isolated and they mock and laugh at you.

As far as white nationalism, most of it in the United States post war was to take credit for things Hitler and Germans never even did like the holocaust and to divide Christianity or frame them as the bad guys. You had plants like Frank Collin Cohn of the Skokie Affair who was a jewish pedophile. Even the head shaving was to demean us. In judaism brides heads are shaved. It was to emasculate us and cover our heritage and our often blonde hair. KKK? K is the 11th letter in simple Masonic code. It is 33 and it's why you see Masonic involvement with the Klan like Albert Pike who outright said he worships Lucifer in Morals and Dogma. 3 11's. 33 is the location of they think Satan descended to teach men the rituals to make Nephilim etc. Mt. Hermon. 1/3rd of the angels fell. Jesus conquered them at 33 because their rebellion was always doomed. Another example would be Lauren Southern who was born Simonsen. All these movements are hijacked or built to contain us, divide anyone who accepts Christ.

Am I proud to be of German ancestry? Sure and I expose every lie of theirs I can, especially those which frame my people and I tell anyone I can of jewish involvement in running the slave trade and all the other crap they accuse us of.

Am I going to put any MAN between me and Jesus as a leader? HELL NO and that is how Christianity got hijacked in the first place. He told us to call no man father, rabbi and teacher and that the first among us was last and the last first. We elevated men to the same high priests he did away with. We stopped reading the bible for ourselves. We were educated by jewish converso Jesuit universities that slowly sold us on the science so falsely called and illusion to separate us from Jesus.

Read pray and ask for help. The answers will come and they might not be what you like as a "white nationalist". Ask him to correct you where you are wrong and make your paths straight. He will. I can't ask for that help, you can only do that yourself and pride is a heck of a thing and something I had a very hard problem with. As I said I was an atheist at one point.

Just remember that they always try to contain, lead and divide. Ordos ab Chao. Order from Chaos. They create the chaos and they do it on every side. BLM? See Alicia Garza SCHWARTZ. Her and Frank Collin COHN are two sides of the same coin. If we didn't fight each other they are exposed. Central banks, Masons who sell out every country, Epstein being Mossad. It's all there, it's not hidden but we can't see it due to the art of distraction.

Sorry for the long post. This is just most of what I have found and it all leads to Jesus as the only way out.

Isaiah 59 14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.

15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

16And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.

17For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.

18According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.

We only have to pick a side. It's not hard. God made us in his image and Satan tried to remake us in his through sin and subversion and perversion. He tried to claim they were slaves, yet wants people to call him master and do horrific rites and sacrifice. They believe the lie, that they know is a life in their hearts because it gives them power or the illusion of power.

“I'm completely willing to hear other suggestions for the best way to culturally program White normies, but I don't see a better one anywhere.”

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