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posted 11 hours ago by Heliocentric on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +60Score on mirror )
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bluewhiteandred on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
maybe fair, did you learn literally nothing reading commies?

I think they basically have points they just draw all the wrong conclusions

Like I think some would suggest an actually free market might be a lot more collaborative and people might share more - kind of things we associate with "Communism" rather than "capitalism"

They emphasize the importance of labor for the common worker - something that capitalists could structure a free economy to appreciate, or one in which capitalists could structure the economy around the interests of capital

I think points are made about the nature of capitalism, i.e. a tendency to take unique things and "commoditize" (spell?) them, and about how capitalism is an ideology that creates a certain kind of world we live in (that can be critiqued)
SilverDiaper on scored.co
2 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
I think the problem is people confuse capitalism with authoritarianism, tyranny, despotism, cronyism, or corruption, and the issue is we don't really have a free market. We have a tyrannical authoritarian government controlled by a wealthy managerial class, elites, who use the government to control the economy and steer economic policy, and use government violence to ensure their interests. That phenomenon of tyrannical government clouds people's judgement. Myself included. I'm a former leftists.

On the one hand, we have capitalism: we know that it works, but government is standing in the way. And on the other hand we have communism: communism cannot work because it's built on a farce which is centralized control over the economy. Both systems are trying to address economic calculation. There's information in the economy that reveals itself to us via prices, prices that occur naturally via market forces. And then, of course, utilizing prices, you have the profit-loss mechanism to signal the efficient distribution of resources.

If the government steps in and meddles in the economy then economic data/prices become distorted and the economic output gets less efficient and benevolent.

Under communism, there is no free market, prices are set arbitrarily via government bureaucracy, therefore there's no natural price system in place, no profit-loss mechanism to signal the efficient distribution of resources and you end up with totalitarianism and mass murder. Which we know happens sooner or later, every time communism is tried.
bluewhiteandred on scored.co
2 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
> Under communism, there is no free market, prices are set arbitrarily via government bureaucracy

well, that's a transition gov we call "communism" but communism is a stateless ideology aka anarcho-communism

so again like do rightwing "chuds" - including myself - even understand what "real communism" is???
SilverDiaper on scored.co
1 hour ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
a transitional govt that never ends
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