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28 days ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
OP has always struck me as an odd sort of case. Every post he makes seems to be denigrating finland *in particular*, with a lot of vitriol, and he engages very little in anything outside of his own posts. And every single post that he makes is hostile towards finland, kind of weird. Not hostile towards anywhere else in Europe, not America, there is no focus towards any other part of the world besides finland. It may well be the only country that exists. Which is fine, if you are a concerned Finn, but he never says anything good about finland whatsoever. He never says that finland should be defended, he never talks positively about finland at all. Either he is a self hating blackpilled Finn, he is disingenuous, or he has an unhealthy obsession with finland specifically.
If we took OP's word for it, finland is an apocalyptic wasteland that looks like Somalia, where faggots rape kids in the streets and every street corner has a mosque where they host white women beheadings every Saturday. But that isn't the case, not even in Helsinki is this remotely a reality (not minimizing the danger of unchecked immigration, but the insane level of "this is absolutely hopeless oy vey" blackpilling is harmful, and it's demoralizing).
OP's username is also a pajeet hindi word which means the following:
>Chukna (चुकना) is a Hindi verb that primarily means “to be used up,” “to get exhausted,” or “to run out.” It is often used in contexts where something, such as resources, time, or money, is completely depleted or has come to an end through consumption or usage.
Weird.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
28 days ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
> He never says that finland should be defended
See, I understand that sentiment. A lot of things have to be burned down and rebuilt. It's self-evident that Whites have to be defended and non-Whites need to be removed/erased. The problem is that brainwashed Whites stand in the way of doing so, believing in whatever nonsense to justify their apathy.
Maybe he criticizes Finland specifically *because* he cares most about it. I don't blame him for it - nor would I try to psychoanalyze him.
> If we took OP's word for it, finland is an apocalyptic wasteland that looks like Somalia
That's not the point. It's about the direction the country is heading towards. Hungary, my country, may enter a similar direction (towards decline) soon too. You can be assured I'll be pissed when that happens, and I won't beg for how we need to be protected, but how that Peter faggot needs to swing high publicly. But - we're still in the waiting phase. When the niggers come, time for peace is over.
> but the insane level of "this is absolutely hopeless oy vey" blackpilling is harmful, and it's demoralizing
That is true. However the problem is, if you let the problem happen 1%, it's only a matter of time until that becomes 5%, then 10%, then 20%, etc. The same pattern can be observed in a LOT of countries.
>See, I understand that sentiment. A lot of things have to be burned down and rebuilt. It's self-evident that Whites have to be defended and non-Whites need to be removed/erased. The problem is that brainwashed Whites stand in the way of doing so, believing in whatever nonsense to justify they apathy.
If everything is negative, nothing happens. You grow apathetic. If you never talk about anything except how everything is bad and how everyone is irredeemable and evil, you just make yourself and everyone else utterly apathetic and uncaring.
>That's not the point. It's about the direction the country is heading towards. Hungary, my country, may enter a similar direction (towards decline) soon too. You can be assured I'll be pissed when that happens, and I won't beg for how we need to be protected, but how that Peter faggot needs to swing high publicly. But - we're still in the waiting phase. When the niggers come, time for peace is over.
Look at things how they are. Criticize things for how they are now. Point to the future and say explicitly that "this is how it will be if we do not do X, Y, and Z". Exaggerating how things currently are, again, leads to apathy and will eventually lead to an almost boomer-ish attitude of "well hopefully I'll be dead by the time all this happens". Hitler exaggerated nothing and did not have to resort to any of this. He simply told the germans how it was and how it would get worse if they continued on that track.
>That is true. However the problem is, if you let the problem happen 1%, it's only a matter of time until that becomes 5%, then 10%, then 20%, etc. The same pattern can be observed in a LOT of countries.
You're correct. But dooming and shirring all over your entire country and never giving anyone any reason to *want* to defend it wouldn't help prevent that problem. Actually, if everyone thought like that, it would be worse. Would I *want* to defend finland or stand up for finland if I were a Finn who truly believed it had already turned into an unlivable 3rd world shithole? No, I'd probably view it as a lost cause and just hop the border to some other country around it.
I am an American that no longer lives in America (not because of political reasons or economic reasons but because of life reasons). I haven't lived in america in over 6 years. However, I still care about it. And I still discuss american political issues frequently and keep up to date on everything happening within it. I am deeply critical of American people and I continuously talk about how america is on possibly the worst trajectory in the entire western world. That being said, I don't doom about america and I do think that its beyond reasonable to change its course. It's just that it *should be done post-haste* or the situation will become unsalvageable. I cannot be active in American politics anymore because of the Atlantic Ocean, rather now I'm active in politics here. However, I still urge Americans that I know to be active and I still aggregate as much as possible for, now effectively, a foreigner.
The thing that americans have a problem with, on the contrary, tends to be a sense of hubris, I usually use a stark dose of reality to try and quell that hubris to make American people realize that they need to do something or other because the situation at present is fucking bleak (but it's getting better on the political front, actually). There's no reason whatsoever to still believe in American exceptionalism because America is accelerating into its own downfall faster than any country in Europe (and I know that because I've lived on both aisles of this debate, and americans who think europe has fallen and america hasnt are fucking delusional).
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
Alright, my entire comment got deleted because I miss-clicked something. Let me summarize it in short:
The problem is not that pointing out bad things in a country means it's unsalvageable. It means there is a discrepancy of what it could be (its potential) vs what it is. Some people are deluded about the discrepancy, or unaware of the potential. People need to realize we do not have to live like this - but they also need to realize what it currently is like.
Also it's a matter of practicality. You need to inform people about the negatives in order for calls for action to be effective (if at all). And telling people what to do is generally disliked, while giving them information to make up their own mind is more appreciated.
If I'd be discovering the jewish question for the first time, and you give me some facts, plus the hint that a final solution is necessary, I'd be repulsed from the entire thing.
And positive things are generally either boring, already known, or normal for us. It's why the media is also so overwhelmingly negative. "I went on the train, and it had no niggers and I didn't get stabbed" isn't a big event.
Btw, I happened to make a meme years ago [about this](https://scored.co/c/ConsumeProduct/p/12kFnHSr2G/me-upvoting-posts-here-about-the/c). It's not a simple matter.
I do not necessarily disagree with you, but you should know why it is to some degree necessary, and therefore inevitable. OP wants Finland to be in its prime, not its decline. And too many Fins are not aware that it is heading towards decline.
28 days ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
>The problem is not that pointing out bad things in a country means it's unsalvageable.
I fully agree. I point out bad things all the time. But theres a certain... maliciousness that I feel from these posts. I'm going more or less off of vibes here. But his entire account seems fairly odd. If you look at his history, he's active on every popular scored.co board and posts the exact same things on each one. He rarely ever engages with the comments on these posts either, nor anything else. I hate being a reddit-tier "snoop", but I am a moderator (even though I rarely enforce anything, this site is pretty quiet) and i had decided after his last post that his behavior was kind of odd.
There's a difference, for example, between this guy who only posts dooming news article every few days across scored and then never says anything, and then tallestskil (a known pessimist, whether or not that's true, that's the perception that many have of him) who actually, well, gives some framing behind his beliefs and what he thinks, and argues his point, and makes that point known in the first place. There is nothing to go off of here. Its hard to tell if OP is even an actual Finn. What if he's a swede that hates finland for some reason? I understand wanted to keep some degree of anonymity, but like, come on. There's not even a message to what he's saying. He advocates nothing.
>Also it's a matter of practicality. You need to inform people about the negatives in order for calls for action to be effective (if at all).
I agree that informing people about the negatives is very much a fundamental necessity. I do it all the time. But if I were to say, continuously reiterate through my posts that everything is bad, and then give zero information whatsoever apart from newspaper screenshots, that doesn't work very well in my favor.
>And telling people what to do is generally disliked, while giving them information to make up their own mind is more appreciated.
I do disagree with decentralized thinking though. I agree that it's important to float information to people, but there has to he more... propagandization than this. This community is small enough that I could make a point and then engage with people on a case by case basis explaining my viewpoint. Successful propagandization through driving home points and then politicizing people to agree with you has enormous benefits, as shown by history.
>And positive things are generally either boring, already known, or normal for us. It's why the media is also so overwhelmingly negative. "I went on the train, and it had no niggers and I didn't get stabbed" isn't a big event.
The media does engage in positive propaganda, they do it extensively, it's just a lot more subtle about it (unless it's not). Ads that have a white paired with a nigger are instances of positive propaganda, for example. Movies that have a brilliant negro as their protagonists are engaging in positive propaganda. The *news* proper doesn't really engage in positive propaganda, but the whole body of western soft power is indeed positive propaganda. *We can use soft power and subliminal messaging too*. Actually, it's probably a bigger deal than the negative propaganda of the news media.
>OP wants Finland to be in its prime, not its decline. And too many Fins are not aware that it is heading towards decline.
I am not too sure that he actually does. Especially considering that his username is a Hindi word that means "something that has come to an end". And if I actually cared, I would engage more and advocate more. This is the difference between dooming and having a realistic viewpoint on things. I would also say that it would help to aggregate in Finnish communities, and these posts are, honestly, not going to be cared about much by most people on scored. But I don't know if he does/doesn't do that or not. So it isn't my place.
And if op is legitimate, take these criticisms wisely and start thinking about them. If you're a real person, I wish you the best, but realize that the way you engage with (or, rather, dont engage with) everyone makes most people ignore your posts and causes them to sit with only a few upvotes and usually little acknowledgement or debate. People like activity, people like it when you show that you care, people like to know that you have beliefs and what those beliefs are. That's the only way to build any sort of community or create any sort of action that can change Finland (or wherever you're from) or anywhere else.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
> I'm going more or less off of vibes here. But his entire account seems fairly odd.
That pajeet nickname thing is in itself weird enough. What I said goes in general, but this one... is different.
Looking into it, it's an account that posts a lot of the same stuff, and then doubles down on how bad Finland is. People seem to disagree. He even said that ~60% of adults are overweight, ~28% are obese... that is just weird. It seems just outright wrong.
His posts are also only about how Finns are bad, but he writes nothing about brownoids/3rd world immigration being a problem anywhere. It's just whatever he can find that is negative about Finland he posts on 2-3 boards at once.
> There's not even a message to what he's saying. He advocates nothing.
I think you are right about this one. It could be as simple as "Finns are stupid and bad, let us brownoids fix it."
> Successful propagandization through driving home points and then politicizing people to agree with you has enormous benefits, as shown by history.
That's fine. But we are not the target audience for that. If anything, we'd have the role to create propaganda for masses to consume. Basically truth propaganda that counters the propaganda of the jews.
> We can use soft power and subliminal messaging too.
Yeah, but where? And how?
> not going to be cared about much by most people on scored. But I don't know if he does/doesn't do that or not. So it isn't my place.
I think it's some pajeet/jew who is paid to do this. Minimal effort multiplied across multiple boards and accounts. Doesn't argue with people, doesn't quote anyone, doesn't elaborate, doesn't make points. And that account is dedicated for Finland. There might be someone handing out images and titles, and he is running the posting.
Remember, they are not smart. They are vicious, persistent, nasty, deceptive, violent even, but they are not smart at all - they do not have any capability to see further than we do, to predict the future better. If they do, they are behind the scenes manipulating it actively, or getting informed by their friends.
If we took OP's word for it, finland is an apocalyptic wasteland that looks like Somalia, where faggots rape kids in the streets and every street corner has a mosque where they host white women beheadings every Saturday. But that isn't the case, not even in Helsinki is this remotely a reality (not minimizing the danger of unchecked immigration, but the insane level of "this is absolutely hopeless oy vey" blackpilling is harmful, and it's demoralizing).
OP's username is also a pajeet hindi word which means the following:
>Chukna (चुकना) is a Hindi verb that primarily means “to be used up,” “to get exhausted,” or “to run out.” It is often used in contexts where something, such as resources, time, or money, is completely depleted or has come to an end through consumption or usage.
Weird.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
See, I understand that sentiment. A lot of things have to be burned down and rebuilt. It's self-evident that Whites have to be defended and non-Whites need to be removed/erased. The problem is that brainwashed Whites stand in the way of doing so, believing in whatever nonsense to justify their apathy.
Maybe he criticizes Finland specifically *because* he cares most about it. I don't blame him for it - nor would I try to psychoanalyze him.
> If we took OP's word for it, finland is an apocalyptic wasteland that looks like Somalia
That's not the point. It's about the direction the country is heading towards. Hungary, my country, may enter a similar direction (towards decline) soon too. You can be assured I'll be pissed when that happens, and I won't beg for how we need to be protected, but how that Peter faggot needs to swing high publicly. But - we're still in the waiting phase. When the niggers come, time for peace is over.
> but the insane level of "this is absolutely hopeless oy vey" blackpilling is harmful, and it's demoralizing
That is true. However the problem is, if you let the problem happen 1%, it's only a matter of time until that becomes 5%, then 10%, then 20%, etc. The same pattern can be observed in a LOT of countries.
> Weird.
Well, that is indeed fucking weird.
If everything is negative, nothing happens. You grow apathetic. If you never talk about anything except how everything is bad and how everyone is irredeemable and evil, you just make yourself and everyone else utterly apathetic and uncaring.
>That's not the point. It's about the direction the country is heading towards. Hungary, my country, may enter a similar direction (towards decline) soon too. You can be assured I'll be pissed when that happens, and I won't beg for how we need to be protected, but how that Peter faggot needs to swing high publicly. But - we're still in the waiting phase. When the niggers come, time for peace is over.
Look at things how they are. Criticize things for how they are now. Point to the future and say explicitly that "this is how it will be if we do not do X, Y, and Z". Exaggerating how things currently are, again, leads to apathy and will eventually lead to an almost boomer-ish attitude of "well hopefully I'll be dead by the time all this happens". Hitler exaggerated nothing and did not have to resort to any of this. He simply told the germans how it was and how it would get worse if they continued on that track.
>That is true. However the problem is, if you let the problem happen 1%, it's only a matter of time until that becomes 5%, then 10%, then 20%, etc. The same pattern can be observed in a LOT of countries.
You're correct. But dooming and shirring all over your entire country and never giving anyone any reason to *want* to defend it wouldn't help prevent that problem. Actually, if everyone thought like that, it would be worse. Would I *want* to defend finland or stand up for finland if I were a Finn who truly believed it had already turned into an unlivable 3rd world shithole? No, I'd probably view it as a lost cause and just hop the border to some other country around it.
I am an American that no longer lives in America (not because of political reasons or economic reasons but because of life reasons). I haven't lived in america in over 6 years. However, I still care about it. And I still discuss american political issues frequently and keep up to date on everything happening within it. I am deeply critical of American people and I continuously talk about how america is on possibly the worst trajectory in the entire western world. That being said, I don't doom about america and I do think that its beyond reasonable to change its course. It's just that it *should be done post-haste* or the situation will become unsalvageable. I cannot be active in American politics anymore because of the Atlantic Ocean, rather now I'm active in politics here. However, I still urge Americans that I know to be active and I still aggregate as much as possible for, now effectively, a foreigner.
The thing that americans have a problem with, on the contrary, tends to be a sense of hubris, I usually use a stark dose of reality to try and quell that hubris to make American people realize that they need to do something or other because the situation at present is fucking bleak (but it's getting better on the political front, actually). There's no reason whatsoever to still believe in American exceptionalism because America is accelerating into its own downfall faster than any country in Europe (and I know that because I've lived on both aisles of this debate, and americans who think europe has fallen and america hasnt are fucking delusional).
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
The problem is not that pointing out bad things in a country means it's unsalvageable. It means there is a discrepancy of what it could be (its potential) vs what it is. Some people are deluded about the discrepancy, or unaware of the potential. People need to realize we do not have to live like this - but they also need to realize what it currently is like.
Also it's a matter of practicality. You need to inform people about the negatives in order for calls for action to be effective (if at all). And telling people what to do is generally disliked, while giving them information to make up their own mind is more appreciated.
If I'd be discovering the jewish question for the first time, and you give me some facts, plus the hint that a final solution is necessary, I'd be repulsed from the entire thing.
And positive things are generally either boring, already known, or normal for us. It's why the media is also so overwhelmingly negative. "I went on the train, and it had no niggers and I didn't get stabbed" isn't a big event.
Btw, I happened to make a meme years ago [about this](https://scored.co/c/ConsumeProduct/p/12kFnHSr2G/me-upvoting-posts-here-about-the/c). It's not a simple matter.
I do not necessarily disagree with you, but you should know why it is to some degree necessary, and therefore inevitable. OP wants Finland to be in its prime, not its decline. And too many Fins are not aware that it is heading towards decline.
I fully agree. I point out bad things all the time. But theres a certain... maliciousness that I feel from these posts. I'm going more or less off of vibes here. But his entire account seems fairly odd. If you look at his history, he's active on every popular scored.co board and posts the exact same things on each one. He rarely ever engages with the comments on these posts either, nor anything else. I hate being a reddit-tier "snoop", but I am a moderator (even though I rarely enforce anything, this site is pretty quiet) and i had decided after his last post that his behavior was kind of odd.
There's a difference, for example, between this guy who only posts dooming news article every few days across scored and then never says anything, and then tallestskil (a known pessimist, whether or not that's true, that's the perception that many have of him) who actually, well, gives some framing behind his beliefs and what he thinks, and argues his point, and makes that point known in the first place. There is nothing to go off of here. Its hard to tell if OP is even an actual Finn. What if he's a swede that hates finland for some reason? I understand wanted to keep some degree of anonymity, but like, come on. There's not even a message to what he's saying. He advocates nothing.
>Also it's a matter of practicality. You need to inform people about the negatives in order for calls for action to be effective (if at all).
I agree that informing people about the negatives is very much a fundamental necessity. I do it all the time. But if I were to say, continuously reiterate through my posts that everything is bad, and then give zero information whatsoever apart from newspaper screenshots, that doesn't work very well in my favor.
>And telling people what to do is generally disliked, while giving them information to make up their own mind is more appreciated.
I do disagree with decentralized thinking though. I agree that it's important to float information to people, but there has to he more... propagandization than this. This community is small enough that I could make a point and then engage with people on a case by case basis explaining my viewpoint. Successful propagandization through driving home points and then politicizing people to agree with you has enormous benefits, as shown by history.
>And positive things are generally either boring, already known, or normal for us. It's why the media is also so overwhelmingly negative. "I went on the train, and it had no niggers and I didn't get stabbed" isn't a big event.
The media does engage in positive propaganda, they do it extensively, it's just a lot more subtle about it (unless it's not). Ads that have a white paired with a nigger are instances of positive propaganda, for example. Movies that have a brilliant negro as their protagonists are engaging in positive propaganda. The *news* proper doesn't really engage in positive propaganda, but the whole body of western soft power is indeed positive propaganda. *We can use soft power and subliminal messaging too*. Actually, it's probably a bigger deal than the negative propaganda of the news media.
>OP wants Finland to be in its prime, not its decline. And too many Fins are not aware that it is heading towards decline.
I am not too sure that he actually does. Especially considering that his username is a Hindi word that means "something that has come to an end". And if I actually cared, I would engage more and advocate more. This is the difference between dooming and having a realistic viewpoint on things. I would also say that it would help to aggregate in Finnish communities, and these posts are, honestly, not going to be cared about much by most people on scored. But I don't know if he does/doesn't do that or not. So it isn't my place.
And if op is legitimate, take these criticisms wisely and start thinking about them. If you're a real person, I wish you the best, but realize that the way you engage with (or, rather, dont engage with) everyone makes most people ignore your posts and causes them to sit with only a few upvotes and usually little acknowledgement or debate. People like activity, people like it when you show that you care, people like to know that you have beliefs and what those beliefs are. That's the only way to build any sort of community or create any sort of action that can change Finland (or wherever you're from) or anywhere else.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
That pajeet nickname thing is in itself weird enough. What I said goes in general, but this one... is different.
Looking into it, it's an account that posts a lot of the same stuff, and then doubles down on how bad Finland is. People seem to disagree. He even said that ~60% of adults are overweight, ~28% are obese... that is just weird. It seems just outright wrong.
His posts are also only about how Finns are bad, but he writes nothing about brownoids/3rd world immigration being a problem anywhere. It's just whatever he can find that is negative about Finland he posts on 2-3 boards at once.
> There's not even a message to what he's saying. He advocates nothing.
I think you are right about this one. It could be as simple as "Finns are stupid and bad, let us brownoids fix it."
> Successful propagandization through driving home points and then politicizing people to agree with you has enormous benefits, as shown by history.
That's fine. But we are not the target audience for that. If anything, we'd have the role to create propaganda for masses to consume. Basically truth propaganda that counters the propaganda of the jews.
> We can use soft power and subliminal messaging too.
Yeah, but where? And how?
> not going to be cared about much by most people on scored. But I don't know if he does/doesn't do that or not. So it isn't my place.
I think it's some pajeet/jew who is paid to do this. Minimal effort multiplied across multiple boards and accounts. Doesn't argue with people, doesn't quote anyone, doesn't elaborate, doesn't make points. And that account is dedicated for Finland. There might be someone handing out images and titles, and he is running the posting.
Remember, they are not smart. They are vicious, persistent, nasty, deceptive, violent even, but they are not smart at all - they do not have any capability to see further than we do, to predict the future better. If they do, they are behind the scenes manipulating it actively, or getting informed by their friends.