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If you're an average white American, your chance of being murdered by a black person within the next calendar year is 1 in 172,000. That's lower than the chance of being dealt a straight flush off the top of the deck that's Jack-high or better.
If you have any sense of rationality at all, focus on your triglycerides. That's what's actually going to kill you in the real world, as opposed to in your inane Turner Diaries fantasies.
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Triglycerides are not human and possess zero human moral agency. Stop insinuating there is no difference between human crime and natural disease, and stop trying to change the subject. You are overrelying on probability as a materialist crutch and as a result you are jaded, seeing the world as an arbitrary superposition of meaningless statistical happenstances. You are trying to show off how little you have to care about someone's death as long as you can cough up an actuarial model which suffices to pass blame for it away from yourself and on to arbitrary statistical noise. You are pursuing the power to deny human life and attempting to use that power to shield yourself from culpability in the needless deaths that you are enabling. You don't get to take the needless murder of innocent White people and make it about natural disease, then dismiss it as statistically minimal now that you've compared it to something utterly irrelevant to it. You won't even give voice to whether I live longer than the next calendar year. Your behavior is antisocial, dishonest, and deeply immoral. Stop lying to yourself. Also, stop staring at cards and look at the basic reality the numbers are telling you; 1 in 172k per annum is not that low, for any cause of death, even a natural one.
Sociological concepts are also not human and possess zero human moral agency. You are not talking about a crime; you are talking about statistics. So I am talking statistics back to you.
Yes, 1 in 172k per annum is extremely low for a cause of death. Homicide itself is only the 17th leading cause of death in the United States; and more than 80% of white victims of homicide were killed by other white people.
I have seen something like 67-68% as a proportion of White-on-White violent crime among White victims, although this includes violent crime such as sexual assault and aggravated assault; I'm not sure where you're getting that 80% murder number from. But White-on-White violent crime and Black-on-White violent crime are apples and oranges. This number for Whites is actually lower than it is for other races, say, Blacks, so I don't see what your point is since as you say everything is just statistics. Moreover, White-on-White violence had better be higher than Black-on-White violence in the United States because there are five times more White people than Black people in the United States. Bother to get the statistics right if you're going to try to "talk" them back. That's literally "per capita." Blacks are over-represented as violent crime perpetrators across the board. The following does not require per-capita: Black-on-White violent crime is literally 14 times more prevalent than White-on-Black violent crime. It's morally okay for White people to be concerned about this and to want to address their friends and neighbors when they are attacked and talk about it without the permission of egomaniacal human-rights worshippers who want to treat Black people like they're lipids, perpetuate unnecessary violent crime, and try to distract everyone by comparing murder to liver failure.
It's okay for White people to like each other and want each other to live. To that end, it's okay for White people to have concerns about dangers that threaten them. Homicide being the 17th leading cause of death is *high*, not low; and it would be high in any society, even a mixed-race one. Again, you are not enlightened just because you can scoff at death on the Internet. Stop making excuses for criminals. Stop trying egg on and mock the needless murder of White people by comparing it to things that have little or nothing to do with it.
> Sociological concepts are also not human and possess zero human moral agency. You are not talking about a crime; you are talking about statistics. So I am talking statistics back to you.
"It's not a crime when a crazed psychopath randomly stabs an innocent woman on the train; it's a sociological concept, and the objective reality is that sociological concepts are just statistics, like when you die from iron deficiency."
See, you're a slave to human rights. You don't get to claim ownership over death itself and reduce it to statistics so you can be choosy when there's death. Your human rights do not include a monopoly over human suffering and you don't get to to dismiss the needless deaths of people just because they said a no-no word once or didn't stick to the approved script about sociology. Your enlightenment is not mastery over death; it's just choosing to disregard the deaths of people who won't pledge loyalty to you. It's like a sick parasite carving away your soul; you are a corpse that hasn't died yet.
Finally, stop pretending that White people, as a group, and Leukemia cells, as a group, are fungible epistemological concepts with equally human moral characteristics.
> sociological concepts are not human and possess zero moral agency
You don't get to reflexively deny the existence of White people whenever a White person is unhappy about White people getting murdered. That's genocidal behavior and we are right to hate you for it. I am talking about a crime and you are a criminal.
>This number for Whites is actually lower than it is for other races, say, Blacks, so I don't see what your point is since as you say everything is just statistics.
My point is that no one keeps track of "black-on-white murder" in terms of where it ranks on the most likely causes of death, but given that homicide in general is #17, and roughly 80% of homicides of white people are committed by other white people, there are probably at least *fifty* things out there that it's more rational to be concerned about than getting murdered by a black guy.
>You don't get to claim ownership over death itself and reduce it to statistics so you can be choosy when there's death.
If we're playing that game, I could just tell you that the only murder I care about is Scott Peterson's 2002 murder of Laci Peterson; that I don't care about any statistic you can show me; and that society's first priority needs to be to protect people like Laci from people like Scott because that's my personal concern and you don't get to reduce death to statistics.
That would be nonsense, right? And yet it's exactly the game you're playing.
What you're saying is: "I know full well that my family members are more likely to die from heart disease, and cancer, and accidents, and stroke, and COPD, and dementia, and diabetes, and kidney disease, and liver disease, and suicide, and cirrhosis, and influenza, and hypertension, and septecemia, and Parkinson's, and respiratory disease, and congential malformations, and pneumoitis, and aortic aneurysm, and in childbirth, and by being murdered by a white person, then they are to be murdered by a black person. But I don't *care* about any of those other things. I only care about the idea of being murdered by a black person, because I'm very racist and I'm looking for solidarity with other irrational racists."
Yeah, me personally, I'll put my energy toward dementia research, because that's a *far* worse way to die than murder, and I've actually lost loved ones to it and will probably lose more.
And I'll also take a pass on making my whole personality about my skin color too, thanks. You're not in my fucking tribe. I don't want you associating yourself with me.
If you have any sense of rationality at all, focus on your triglycerides. That's what's actually going to kill you in the real world, as opposed to in your inane Turner Diaries fantasies.
Yes, 1 in 172k per annum is extremely low for a cause of death. Homicide itself is only the 17th leading cause of death in the United States; and more than 80% of white victims of homicide were killed by other white people.
It's okay for White people to like each other and want each other to live. To that end, it's okay for White people to have concerns about dangers that threaten them. Homicide being the 17th leading cause of death is *high*, not low; and it would be high in any society, even a mixed-race one. Again, you are not enlightened just because you can scoff at death on the Internet. Stop making excuses for criminals. Stop trying egg on and mock the needless murder of White people by comparing it to things that have little or nothing to do with it.
> Sociological concepts are also not human and possess zero human moral agency. You are not talking about a crime; you are talking about statistics. So I am talking statistics back to you.
"It's not a crime when a crazed psychopath randomly stabs an innocent woman on the train; it's a sociological concept, and the objective reality is that sociological concepts are just statistics, like when you die from iron deficiency."
See, you're a slave to human rights. You don't get to claim ownership over death itself and reduce it to statistics so you can be choosy when there's death. Your human rights do not include a monopoly over human suffering and you don't get to to dismiss the needless deaths of people just because they said a no-no word once or didn't stick to the approved script about sociology. Your enlightenment is not mastery over death; it's just choosing to disregard the deaths of people who won't pledge loyalty to you. It's like a sick parasite carving away your soul; you are a corpse that hasn't died yet.
Finally, stop pretending that White people, as a group, and Leukemia cells, as a group, are fungible epistemological concepts with equally human moral characteristics.
> sociological concepts are not human and possess zero moral agency
You don't get to reflexively deny the existence of White people whenever a White person is unhappy about White people getting murdered. That's genocidal behavior and we are right to hate you for it. I am talking about a crime and you are a criminal.
My point is that no one keeps track of "black-on-white murder" in terms of where it ranks on the most likely causes of death, but given that homicide in general is #17, and roughly 80% of homicides of white people are committed by other white people, there are probably at least *fifty* things out there that it's more rational to be concerned about than getting murdered by a black guy.
>You don't get to claim ownership over death itself and reduce it to statistics so you can be choosy when there's death.
If we're playing that game, I could just tell you that the only murder I care about is Scott Peterson's 2002 murder of Laci Peterson; that I don't care about any statistic you can show me; and that society's first priority needs to be to protect people like Laci from people like Scott because that's my personal concern and you don't get to reduce death to statistics.
That would be nonsense, right? And yet it's exactly the game you're playing.
What you're saying is: "I know full well that my family members are more likely to die from heart disease, and cancer, and accidents, and stroke, and COPD, and dementia, and diabetes, and kidney disease, and liver disease, and suicide, and cirrhosis, and influenza, and hypertension, and septecemia, and Parkinson's, and respiratory disease, and congential malformations, and pneumoitis, and aortic aneurysm, and in childbirth, and by being murdered by a white person, then they are to be murdered by a black person. But I don't *care* about any of those other things. I only care about the idea of being murdered by a black person, because I'm very racist and I'm looking for solidarity with other irrational racists."
Yeah, me personally, I'll put my energy toward dementia research, because that's a *far* worse way to die than murder, and I've actually lost loved ones to it and will probably lose more.
And I'll also take a pass on making my whole personality about my skin color too, thanks. You're not in my fucking tribe. I don't want you associating yourself with me.