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3 days ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
Maybe, but let's do an examination of occam's razor here. It's also entirely likely that the air force is moving cargo and personnel into the area to rebuild the destroyed bases, or perhaps to maintain security around them. Nobody's launching missiles anymore so it's (relatively) safe to do this now. The president is fucking insane, sure, but everyone knows that a boots on the ground invasion is literal suicide. That's why the only real person, at least officially, floating this idea around is Lindsey Graham. I don't think anyone wants to do it because it's virtually impossible given the terrain and spirit of iran.
The US and Israel tried to decapitate the leadership of iran via airstrikes and failed. A boots on the ground invasion is unlikely to happen because of what I said. I think that at this point everyone has realized that nothing can actually be done about iran besides choking them with more sanctions and blockades and coping that maybe something will happen (which it still has not). The only real choice zog has with iran is to keep a wall around it to prevent them from spreading and curtailing their influence, which is the only thing they've been even somewhat successful in. But even this has been fucked up and rendered unlikely by the fact that America and Israel pissed off every OPEC country by getting them bombed for a month straight.
The hubris of zog has accelerated its downfall. They thought they could accomplish regime change by airstrikes and hoping that the population would rebel. Nothing happened. The US depleted s shit ton of missile stockpiles. OPEC is angry at the US. Iran has popular support. China and Russia benefited immensely from literally everything that happened.
I am open to eating my words if I'm wrong, however
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
They must have known the population would not rebel. That's the same shit they said would happen before they invaded Iraq. That was just a lie for our consumption.
3 days ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)2 children
A fair number of Iraqis actually *did*, because they were shiites quite propagandized by iran (back when iran was quite the dubious player to be honest). The issue with that was the fact that the same shiites revolting in 1991 became enemies of America after we occupied Iraq. They also won the insurgency too, as the third party "underdog".
But the issue with Iran is that it doesn't have the same religious divide as Iraq. I remember quite well that the propaganda pushed towards "revolting iranians" quite heavily after the failure of the martyrdom of the elder Khamenei to do anything in favor of the epstein coalition. Then when the iranians failed to do this, they banked on the Arabs and kurds doing something, which they largely didn't. And I remember that whenever the propaganda about kurds and Arabs faded away, because they didn't do anything, then political figures started floating the idea of boots on the ground around. But I really believe that this was just an attempted trump (haha) card to make iran capitulate to american demands, to which the iranians successfully called their bluff
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
When Bush said we'd be welcomed as liberators, he framed it in terms of Hussein being a dictator, and the Iraqis wanting a Western-style democracy. This isn't what those Shiite rebels were fighting for, obviously, so Bush had to have known they wouldn't just become enemies, they already were.
3 days ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
They also don't care about making allies or enemies either. They just want these places destabilized. If the enemies are too weak to actually threaten the paradigm, they'll gladly hand over the keys to them. The shiites in Iraq are fucking terrible at governing it and making it a stable, militarized, and powerful state like the baathists did. Most of the american attention during the insurgency was focused on the baathist insurgents anyways. Ideally, America would win, but the shiite victory was fine. Iraq is destabilized and terrible and it doesn't matter that they hate America because they can't do anything about it. Similar situation applies to Iran. They would hand the keys over to anyone besides the ayatollah as long as theyre too incompetent to govern it. Bush was lying about caring about this, he didn't care if Iraq became a western style democracy or not, just as long as it ceased to function as the main regional player of the middle east. Which it did. Iraq is effectively a vassal of Iran now but they can't actually help Iran in any meaningful way besides fighting ISIS. It went from being the 4th most powerful military on earth, and the most powerful in the middle east by a long shot, to being the 44th most powerful in the world and the 6th most powerful in its own neighborhood.
The Iraqi insurgency was a failure for the US in the sense that America was unable to install a puppet regime, this is true, but it was a total victory in the fact that America devastated Iraq so much that it ceased to function, and that the inheritors of Saddam's regime were lackadaisical, uncaring, and were content with letting the country be a giant pile of shit anywhere outside of Baghdad and scared and weak enough that they let the US strong-arm them constantly despite being an iranian vassal state.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
You have to remember, in 2001, we still believed that there were people in government who weren't scamming us 24/7 and that there was a political solution.
Here in 2026, NO ONE believes that anymore.
Trump can say "We're liberators!" and NO ONE is going to agree with him, not MAGA, not the left, not the centrists, not the libertarians, NO ONE.
> Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
This is an ideal scenario when you look at it in the right angle. No matter what happens, the US people win and Israel loses.
If we march in and Iranians welcome us as liberators, then Israel loses because now we don't need to send them money and weapons anymore.
If we march in and win after a lot of heavy fighting, the US population turns on jewry. Iran turns back into Iran but this time we aren't saving Israel's ass.
If we march in and lose, then we leave the Middle East forever never to return. We can seal up the Strait of Hormuz or drop bombs on them or whatever we want, but we never ever send another drop of American blood to be shed in that god-forsaken part of the world.
No matter what happens, the sword of Damacles will fall and there will be NO REASON for the US to ever support Israel ever again.
You guys who haven't been paying attention really need to see what Trump has already done in Iran. The UK was making boatloads of money by selling insurance at high premiums because of the risk of shipping oil through the Strait. Now that scam is over, and the King of England is coming to America begging for support and recognition and likely cash. Trump has taken out yet another source of funding for international jewry, and when this is all said and done, there will be NOTHING they can ask for money that we will pay for ever again.
The US and Israel tried to decapitate the leadership of iran via airstrikes and failed. A boots on the ground invasion is unlikely to happen because of what I said. I think that at this point everyone has realized that nothing can actually be done about iran besides choking them with more sanctions and blockades and coping that maybe something will happen (which it still has not). The only real choice zog has with iran is to keep a wall around it to prevent them from spreading and curtailing their influence, which is the only thing they've been even somewhat successful in. But even this has been fucked up and rendered unlikely by the fact that America and Israel pissed off every OPEC country by getting them bombed for a month straight.
The hubris of zog has accelerated its downfall. They thought they could accomplish regime change by airstrikes and hoping that the population would rebel. Nothing happened. The US depleted s shit ton of missile stockpiles. OPEC is angry at the US. Iran has popular support. China and Russia benefited immensely from literally everything that happened.
I am open to eating my words if I'm wrong, however
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
But the issue with Iran is that it doesn't have the same religious divide as Iraq. I remember quite well that the propaganda pushed towards "revolting iranians" quite heavily after the failure of the martyrdom of the elder Khamenei to do anything in favor of the epstein coalition. Then when the iranians failed to do this, they banked on the Arabs and kurds doing something, which they largely didn't. And I remember that whenever the propaganda about kurds and Arabs faded away, because they didn't do anything, then political figures started floating the idea of boots on the ground around. But I really believe that this was just an attempted trump (haha) card to make iran capitulate to american demands, to which the iranians successfully called their bluff
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
The Iraqi insurgency was a failure for the US in the sense that America was unable to install a puppet regime, this is true, but it was a total victory in the fact that America devastated Iraq so much that it ceased to function, and that the inheritors of Saddam's regime were lackadaisical, uncaring, and were content with letting the country be a giant pile of shit anywhere outside of Baghdad and scared and weak enough that they let the US strong-arm them constantly despite being an iranian vassal state.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
Unlikely.
> The shiites in Iraq are fucking terrible at governing it and making it a stable, militarized, and powerful state
Because of this:
> the US strong-arm them constantly
You have to remember, in 2001, we still believed that there were people in government who weren't scamming us 24/7 and that there was a political solution.
Here in 2026, NO ONE believes that anymore.
Trump can say "We're liberators!" and NO ONE is going to agree with him, not MAGA, not the left, not the centrists, not the libertarians, NO ONE.
This is an ideal scenario when you look at it in the right angle. No matter what happens, the US people win and Israel loses.
If we march in and Iranians welcome us as liberators, then Israel loses because now we don't need to send them money and weapons anymore.
If we march in and win after a lot of heavy fighting, the US population turns on jewry. Iran turns back into Iran but this time we aren't saving Israel's ass.
If we march in and lose, then we leave the Middle East forever never to return. We can seal up the Strait of Hormuz or drop bombs on them or whatever we want, but we never ever send another drop of American blood to be shed in that god-forsaken part of the world.
No matter what happens, the sword of Damacles will fall and there will be NO REASON for the US to ever support Israel ever again.
You guys who haven't been paying attention really need to see what Trump has already done in Iran. The UK was making boatloads of money by selling insurance at high premiums because of the risk of shipping oil through the Strait. Now that scam is over, and the King of England is coming to America begging for support and recognition and likely cash. Trump has taken out yet another source of funding for international jewry, and when this is all said and done, there will be NOTHING they can ask for money that we will pay for ever again.