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Christians have fallen victim to a massive lie perpetuated throughout most of the Christian era.

The lie is this: "The Bible clearly teaches that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one being".

Meaning, you are OK believing that that is true doctrine, but you can't justify that doctrine with an appeal to the Bible.

(One Being = One Essence = Consubstantial = Homoousis)

This lie is so ridiculously easy to expose that many Trinitarian biblical scholars readily admit it.

In order to expose this lie, let me start by pointing out the 3 and only 3 places in the Bible where it even gets close to this doctrine, and why those passages do NOT mean what they seem to mean in context.

1. The Shema Deuteronomy 6:4: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:" (KJV) "Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God, the Lord alone." (NRSVue) "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one." (NIV)
2. Isaiah 43:10 (and surrounding passages of similar effect): "Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me." (NIV, others very similar)
3. John 10:30: "I and the Father are one"

RE the Shema: As you can see, the NRSVUE translates the word "one" as "alone". Why? Because God is distinguishing himself from the other gods mentioned in Deuteronomy. In fact, Deuteronomy 33, especially in light of the Dead Sea Scrolls, describes how El Elyon (The Most High God) has divided the nations, giving them each their own God, and giving Israel to YHWH. Therefore, YHWH and YHWH alone is the God of Israel.

RE Isaiah: Reading Isaiah in context shows (1) That God is explaining that he alone will redeem / save Israel and (2) That they shouldn't be following the other gods. Importantly, the exact phrasing that is used by God saying "I am the only God" is the exact phrasing used to describe how Babylon thinks that they are the bestest city forever. (Isaiah 47:10)

RE the Old Testament / Hebrew: Scholars must contend with Genesis 2:24, which says husbands and wives should "become one flesh". If there ever was a verse teaching homoousis, this is probably it, and it's not describing the relationship between Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

Finally, as far as the Old Testament goes, the Holy Ghost isn't clearly represented as a separate person. The text uses words that suggest it is the breath of God, or a wind, or something like that, rather than a person.

Thus, I close the Old Testament confident that not only is the Holy Ghost not clearly represented as a different person of the Holy Trinity, but it is nowhere ever taught that they are of one essence / consubstantial / homoousis. I think pretty much everyone who reads the Old Testament would agree with me there.

In the New Testament, we contend with John's representation that Jesus said "I and the Father are one". This is easily refuted because in John 17, Jesus clearly states that he wants the disciples to enjoy the same oneness that he experiences with the Father. Rather than citing specific verses, I encourage you to read the whole thing so that you can see for yourself how explicit it is.

Conclusion: The only thing "clear" in the Bible is that the doctrine of the Trinity, specifically, that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one being / one essence / consubstantial / homoousis, is NOT taught.

(If you're upset that I didn't mention the Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7-8), you should go look that up first before trying to use it. Not only is it not part of the oldest copies, but it doesn't mean what you think it means in light of John 17.)

PS: The reason why I am bringing this up is because Christianity is under attack, and you guys who are saying these absurd things are creating HUGE vectors of attack. You need NOT defend against these particular attacks! IE, you DON'T HAVE TO JUSTIFY THAT THE BIBLE IS INERRANT BECAUSE IT IS NOT! Defend things that can be defended!
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zk3hf9dB on scored.co
27 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
> Jesus is worshiped; Jesus created; Jesus judges

Because Jesus is God.

I am not refuting that the Bible teaches that Jesus is God. It's pretty clear that it does. It takes a lot of effort to not read the subtext of several key passages teaching this. You are doing a pretty good job of proving that.

Now show me that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are "one being".

No such passage exists in the Bible. Several passages show that they are not. In fact, the idea of polytheism is spread out throughout the text, both the Old and New Testaments. (Paul famously says Satan is the god of this earth; Jesus confronts Satan in the wilderness while fasting, etc...)

I am not refuting the doctrine of the Trinity. I am refuting the idea that it is clearly taught in the Bible, specifically that they are "one being".
fourleaved on scored.co
26 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
No such passage exists that says God is omniscient or omnipresent, or that Christ has a divine and human nature, or that God the Son became incarnate, or that man inherits guilt from Adam's original sin, or that Christian Sabbath is a Sunday, or even which books do or don't belong in the Bible.

Not explicitly stated =/= Not biblical.

The Bible also does not teach polytheism.

> "Before me there was no God formed, and after me there shall be none." Isaiah 43:10
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