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Trump's addition to the White House is estimated to take $500m and 3 years to build. That's just an addition and that's with 2025 modern technology available. Of course since it's the White House, I'm sure there's a lot of logistical issues and other considerations but it's just an addition and Trump has billionaires backing the project.

Still, there are thousands of buildings all over the world as good of quality and MANY significantly better quality and larger than the White House. Some of these buildings supposedly had 1-3 year build times. Meanwhile, of buildings we know today that are of similar (or better quality) being constructed, we have one that started in the late 1800s and is still being constructed today (Sagrada Família)...

I used to dismiss a lot of the Tartaria stuff because most of it focused on the "free energy" stuff which I felt was a little far-fetched and too "utopian fantasy"-like but something about this old architecture doesn't seem to add up to me. It reminds me a lot like the moon landing. "We just lost the technology" aka we just confirmed how romans did concrete a decade ago.

Did guys in the 1800s really just pop out buildings of similar or better quality than the White house like it was no big deal? Then today, to get something build on a similar scale we need billionaires backing the project. What gives? I don't know if I buy the "it's too expensive" (now but it wasn't back then?) or "no one likes the style" (yet everyone is amazed by it). You'd think a place like Dubai with all its money and expensive "new-style" buildings would have thrown up at least one grand "old-style" building but they didn't even put up one. No pillars just glass boxes.

Something isn't adding up for me here. What are your guys' thoughts?
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BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
14 hours ago 10 points (+0 / -0 / +10Score on mirror ) 2 children
Back in the 1800s, all of the engineers and construction workers would have been White men. Even without considering if free energy is real or not, we've lost insane amounts of productivity by allowing women and minorities into our workplaces.

Of course, this also applies to nasa, they no longer have the right stuff. They didn't lose the technology, they lost the old German rocket scientists who made the technology work. And they would have gone far beyond Apollo if allowed, look into Project Orion and nuclear pulse propulsion.
disoriented on scored.co
13 hours ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 4 children
This is all true, but add to that the fact that older construction required specialized work that required tradesmen and craftsmen who did nothing but that all of their lives. We no longer use the same kinds of building materials or use the same kind of ornamentation. This is a shame because older buildings were made to be beautiful, and this loss is intentional. It began with the Bauhaus school, which wikijewdia describes as follows:

>The school became famous for its approach to design, which attempted to unify individual artistic vision with the principles of mass production and emphasis on function.

It's the reason why communists built shitty identical buildings to house workers. It's ugly, fragile, and intended to fall apart after a few decades. Tom Wolfe wrote very critically about modern architecture in his book "From Bauhaus to Our House". It's worth a read.
ApexVeritas on scored.co
13 hours ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
With regard to certain trades, it's also because fathers would pass on their trade, expertise, and wisdom to their sons. We no longer do that, because "classism is evil", and we've lost massive amounts of expertise, wisdom, and knowledge that was built upon generations.
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
8 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Amen brother
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
12 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Yeah, we lost a lot when we lost guilds. Probably intentionally.
MEGAMAGAULTRA on scored.co
9 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Plus when you realize that great architecture inspires men to be great, you also realize why everything has to be shitty.

Plus even think about the 90s, we built custom themed buildings (think like pizza hut). Now everything is a grey box because devs say it sells better. Meaning we don't even build things for the current tenant, company, whatever, we build things for whoever comes after, never the present person
newuser8 on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I just ordered the book. Thanks
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
8 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
This. I can count on White men to do their job. I cant count on minorities or women to do it. If I am distracted 70% of my day dealing with nons then the reaches of my productivity drop
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