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I've only recently started reading the source material and I've learned that the Gnostics believe that the God in the Torah is actually an imperfect God (described as resembling a dragon) and not the true Father of everything. Jesus Christ's father is not the Torah God but the true Father of everything. Jesus Christ was trying to save humanity from the Torah God.

Seems pretty accurate to me. Many people say that jews worship the devil. Well, the Gnostics basically said the same thing in texts over 2000 years old. I've also heard the Torah God is a dragon bit before and thought it was a modern view. I didn't realize it literally was written in texts 2200 years old.
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Gnostics do in fact accept this. However, I wonder what the original word is that's translated to "the devil". I wonder if the real original word was simply adversary which got modern translated to "the devil" because I believe Jesus may have simply been pointing out that the imperfect "tribal demi God" was humanity's adversary (not "the devil as we understand it" though modern Christianity may refer to this entity as the devil and perhaps much of the lore surrounding the devil is specifically discussing this entity).

I just find Gnosticism interesting in the sense that it basically discounts the Torah entirely because it suggests the God discussed in the Torah is the imperfect God who isn't really a good God at all and attempts to enslave/entrap humanity. By believing in this Gnostic take, it completely rids Christianity of the Jewish hold on it.
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Lucifer being the god of this world was standard Catholic catechism for most of Church history. It's why he promises Christ earthly things (wealth, power) in the desert (and is summarily rebuked)
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CaptainTrouble on scored.co
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Yes, I do believe the perfect Father and imperfect Father have been commingled significantly. Part of the reason for this is because people were never taught that the two existed.

In Gnosticism, it was the imperfect Father who created us but it was an extension of the perfect Father that gave us life. Easily commingled as one Father who gave us both rather than separated out as the Gnostics do.

Demons are mentioned in the original Gnostic text I've been reading but I'd need to delve more into it to truly understand their purpose.

Gnosticism seems to have a different take on demons and demonic possession than most Christians understanding of the two; however, in practice the outcome is similar. Gnosticism suggests there are Archons (rulers of this world) created by the imperfect God who keep humans trapped in this material world. The way in which they keep humans trapped is by distracting humans away from the innate understanding of their divine spark. They do this by distracting humans with vices (so-to-speak) that a Christian would associate with demonic possession and these archons are describes by some as demonic (due to the commingling of religious theories). Gnostics wouldn't just believe in "demonic possession" as a Christian would understand it but they would go on to say it's a defining feature of the material world because it is through demons and demonic possessions the archons keep us trapped in this material world.
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CaptainTrouble on scored.co
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I doubt there's much confusion since in the Apocyphon of John it says: "The Father looked at Barbelo in the unstained light that surrounds the invisible Spirit and his radiance, and from him, she conceived. In this way, he generated a flame of light in the light, in the form of blessing, but it is not equal to his greatness. It is the only child of the Metropator, which emerged. It is born by him alone, the only son of the father, pure light. The invisible and virgin spirit rejoiced at the light that arose, which appeared through the first power of his Pronoia, that is, through Barbelo."

Essentially, the Father, the son and the invisible virgin spirit are the trinity in this context.

The resurrection is the reason the Catholic Church declared Gnostics as heretics. The Gnostics believe that Jesus did resurrect but as his true form which is "pure light".
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