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Oh no! Trump "declared war" on the Catholic Church? The same institution that currently sponsors [refugees](https://web.archive.org/web/20251227104421if_/https://cdn1.telesco.pe/file/fn0ksr0EmUU-JbV1CXhHYeUTsAq81U-m_dKGmS5uCgUu0CkVELf4UmccwCUbjU-s2UUn8OYIMA3_vGklKBimzBqL9iDWLQ1U7_qlPwks4N6ZvK3QcN3_pZMd9Gz8zibC7NZYyUB9i6hryjjJXKpu-aifS5YLC_4TgTes9y8_SZm1PU2jSYtSYKiVELe3RVG2nKdfN_-wwyKNjJgUrU09Vq7h42Z-oMP3-PkLcW_igP8rRY76Jy_x2CbiLoC7CCNUL6gh5JDDpKdQN0fiDyN0HmCjdxcWJ7bJguTNzroRtQmZrjevdQw5XIh4_2doRqxyHQPSSBOI5f6AaUK1xsxHxg.jpg) and [foreign invaders](https://web.archive.org/web/20251227091231if_/https://cdn1.telesco.pe/file/KE8MbrFSNkBk7nYkpfjS307m1ehC4J7U0nhLjCBOBWGKUGpZruRT9UhNKRhNK5AOYvPVKwZ-iz31j5N8nzaFxRWgqq5CmcgPEA5kFU5uk8fzhbTTaDDlcSf59EoNMNEesEppLRe6XsV6GG444gzgQwrAlfOa71tN4iLy0gV8LKY68xPnu1uOsKbR1RNbF3eBnV9rue1ynrCkEpR77bdFFnrhuwOkiw1MfhLV86PN22-kwskO_YS3OtC-o2qajK0O2iYwwBmAdDLv7tc_DVNOm7xRnTBeo1usMC9a66M11wdKi2jmF4cM5v_JvlJL_pHLN5MXtvuBdiWBdSMkQArBsw.jpg) into White countries? The same institution that [dedicated a statue for the "World Day of Migrants" within the Vatican](https://web.archive.org/web/20191005013324/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49886953)? The same organization that has charities [petitioning in favor of giving out privileges to illegals](https://web.archive.org/web/20250320054032/https://www.catholiccharitiestrenton.org/petition-drivers-licenses-undocumented-immigrants/) and [coaching unwanted invaders how to avoid ICE](https://web.archive.org/web/20250823095133/https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/us-news/catholic-charities-draws-fire-over-video-coaching-illegal-migrants-on-how-to-duck-ice/)? The same organization with conferences [that concluded it can only maintain its relevance by investing in brown communities](https://web.archive.org/web/20250405114429/https://www.micatholic.org/advocacy/news-room/focus/2025/seeing-christ-in-the-immigrant/the-catholic-churchs-changing-demographics-in-america/)? THAT catholic church???
Believe it or not, just because Trump is a zionist doesn't mean you have to ally yourself with third worldists and their pets that also hate you.
Hey I don't like the pope and his church either, but if we're going to be realistic for a moment, Trump is still an anti-Christ figure because of what he's said and has been doing, no matter how lost the catholic church at this moment.
Frankly, tossing around the term "anti-Christ" is pure sensationalist slop at any point in history. I remember back when some people were adamant that Obama was THE anti-Christ, but nothing ever happens. Eventually Trump's time in the White House will end and people will throw the anti-Christ label at someone new again as the term continues losing its weight.
Very true. If you believe for a moment that the catholic church is "Christ's church" alone then you're just another out of wack catholic. When half of prottestsntism is beating you at your own game, you're not THE church anymore.
I mean, I think Nick needs to read more about Cathoilicism to recognize its "absolute state" today:
Theologically needs a "hard reset" to 1958 norms in rejection of the Vatican 2 movement; in the pews a lot of those identifying as Catholic in the U.S. hold incompatible views on things like abortion / homosexuality / contraception, and that needs to be more directly addressed; practically, many criminal entities seem to have attached themselves to "Catholicism" and those need upending (immigration fraud movements to trafficking / abuse ops)
"Antipope" Leo has been defective in not simply arguing Trump's military ops don't conform to Catholic Just War theory, but has argued other disputable points and positioned himself as "contra Trump" rather than opposing muslim aggression and for diplomatic efforts (even going so far as to recently call a mosque a "sacred space"?!). Trump may be an antichrist but "Leo" is as well and may be quite worse from a Catholic perspective (but this seems lost on most who identify as "Catholic" today?)
So... it's kind of a tangled mess here with a lot of conflicts on all sides
Hi PC, I have watched the show before but am not following it closely and would enjoy discussing these topics further if you want (especially I'd enjoy groypers becoming more aware of the issues if you're connected with them digitally, as I have never really seen in-depth "traditional Catholic" discussions with groypers)
Does Nick share your view (which I agree with) that there hasn't been a "legit" (as in actual) pope since Pius XII? That sedevacantism is true? He seemed to tweet like "Leo" is a pope.
I could not find Nick's positions on these things; you say he attends a "TLM". The "TLMs" typically available are of the 1962 missal, which we believe is a "half-reform" that should be rejected. Such chapels also implicitly require people to accept Vatican 2 as Catholic. There are a handful of sedevacantist chapels that use the pre-1962 missal. I was not aware of Nick going to such chapels or bringing up this issue.
A handful of us reject going to those chapels, since their "bishops" were not approved by any pope (they arguably have no jurisdiction). Hence when you say "Nick attends a TLM"... our view is there are no TLMs to go to.
Nick & groypers definitely have a bunch of things correct, I was just hoping to see them be led by God to go further with things and to draw necessary conclusions to bring the confusion of Vatican 2 to a more definite end.
Believe it or not, just because Trump is a zionist doesn't mean you have to ally yourself with third worldists and their pets that also hate you.
I believe a nose check has turned up that those are smaller Jewish lead pockets (somehow) operating under the guise of the Catholic Church.