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I've come up with this theory. Well, it's very likely not unique at all, but here we go : So i believe that different people groups, races for example, have certain predispositions in their thoughts and obviously actions, from either genetics or culture / upbringing, largely genetics, likely both. This leads to them having different moral values, like jews seeing it as ok to genocide every other race as long as they get to be kings, and white people largely being less ethnocentric. However, here's the kicker, the groups see their moral values as objectively correct, as universal, as THE truth. The jews will never change their morality because they see it as THE truth, as THE moral good to kill or enslave everyone else and plunder them for eternity.

That's why debates with outgroups are so useless, you're trying to argue away genetic and cultural predispositions.

What do you think? is there anything to this?
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damnesia on scored.co
9 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Something feels off about the way you're describing this... Maybe a bit too vague but I think I mostly agree with it. Let me propose a little more that might make your idea more complete.

The way I have understood it is that cooperation within a group of humans leads to better outcomes which leads to greater survivability. Religion serves as a set of rules for groups to obey and offers narrative explanations for the validity of those roles for those that would question them. If the moral system corresponds well with reality then the group that adopts it will succeed genetically. Once such a moral system becomes well established it would then in turn exert evolutionary pressure upon humans. That is to say humans that were more genetically fit to work well with the system would be more likely to survive and reproduce whereas those that did not would fail within it, be outcast by it or killed by it depending on the severity of the incompatibility with the system.

The relationship is symbiotic. Systems that work well are more fit evolutionarily and increase the number of beings within them. The system itself creates its own version of fitness which would shape the people under it. But there would also be people within these systems, these populations, which would bring something different which was incompatible with the system but created even better outcomes. These people would exert pressure on the system to change. I actually think what you're proposing is placing maybe too much importance on the genetic aspect of this. I think the morality and the genetics are like interlocking pieces that when put together create something more effective. But I don't think if say... You plopped a bunch of Jewish babies down somewhere with no inherited moral system that they would produce an identical or even similar moral system in the long run.

There are some people here that believe that other races, especially jews, are just evil to their core. That they are literally the spawn of demons. I think there are better scientific explanations. Their moral system establishes them as an oppressed outgroup who are, in fact, Gods only chosen people and thus the only real people. In this way it justifies them in treating all others as animals. It essentially makes it to where they have to have no moral consideration for anyone outside of their race and because they are a minority it encourages cunning and deceipt in pursuit of success. Honestly it wouldn't be a terrible moral system for a nomadic tribal people on the verge of settling civilizations in the midst of many other nomadic tribal people's doing the same. The problem is that they never really established that civilisation and their absolute insistance on their own superiority made it impossible for them to ever integrate with other groups. That ensured that their genetics kept going (although that's debatable considering modern jews are not even the jews who founded Judaism, who are mostly Muslims now) but it isolated them and genetically bottle necked them because they couldn't ever reach a large enough population to establish an actual permanent settlement anywhere. Their system makes them a tenacious leech. They really are parasites on our greater society and religion. But hey... Parasites and leeches do exist in the world. It is a viable survival strategy. Just not a moral one from our perspective.
Delon on scored.co
9 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
> But I don't think if say... You plopped a bunch of Jewish babies down somewhere with no inherited moral system that they would produce an identical or even similar moral system in the long run.


i believe they would be predisposed to such behaviors, not necessarily destined to engage in them. I agree with your thoughts otherwise
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