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9 months ago8 points(+0/-0/+8Score on mirror)2 children
Thou believest that there is one God. Thou dost well: the devils also believe and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
9 months ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)2 children
There are a hundred denominations. All of them were started by highly motivated people. Which ones were following God? Which ones still do?
My problem with Christianity is that any random Christian is more likely to be a Zionist than not. How can an entire religion be hijacked like that? Remember: highly motivated people saying they're bringing people closer to god.
Most people are NPCs and will believe whatever they're told. They aren't good or evil. Merely tools.
9 months ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)1 child
>My problem with Christianity is that any random Christian is more likely to be a Zionist than not. How can an entire religion be hijacked like that?
What are you talking about? Christian Zionism comes from Dispensationalism, which is a uniquely modern American heresy. Maybe you live in a particular area where you're surrounded by these types, but that doesn't mean that's the norm. It's like living in Salt Lake City and thinking every religious person must be a Mormon.
9 months ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)1 child
Look at Europe today and tell me again that zionism is uniquely American. The Balfour Declaration was signed in the UK. All of Europe United against Germany at the will of the jews.
The average European may not worship jews like American dispensationialists, but they tolerate zionist leaders.
9 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
I'm ambivalent about whether or not Christianity is a true jewish psyop by design. The Adam Green position is a stretch. Regardless, it is certainly wielded by jews in the modern era, as you say.
But one thing is for certain—with the way history has unfolded, there is no way Christianity is true in the way it says on the tin. I'm too sleepy to write one of my usual essays on the topic, but there are a million glaring holes in the religion that don't get patched up just because you start hating jews.
I think it draws in right wingers because it is *extremely* aesthetic (icons, crusadercore imagery,) and much of the Bible is a highly poetic, evocative text. It feels very powerful to quote it at the bad guy (or a rival peer) like moral spellcraft, once you've shaped it around your preferred ideology.
Also, it's functionally been an extension of European culture for the last few thousand years, and in the soulless modern world, where young White men are *desperate* for any sense of cultural identity, it becomes very easy to latch onto as something you must defend or "carry on," especially in light of the prior point about how gratifying it is to the senses.
Anyone with mixed ancestry who wants in on "White" identity is particularly vulnerable to this, due to Christianity's universalist overtones. Even if they don't explicitly believe that it teaches religion > race, they understand on a limbic level that it muddies the waters. See u/DeplorableGerman . I also once knew a mischling who was a similarly zealous Christian for similar reasons.
And, credit where credit is due—it is a pretty robust practical values system. Its bigger problems, in my opinion, lie more in the deeper lore and metaphysics. But on the ground, it teaches you softcore asceticism, chastity, caring for your body and community... It's no surprise that it produces strong, fertile Whites among those who take those tenants seriously, even if they're ideologically kneecapped in other areas.
Amazing essay. I agree on all points. Still, it feels like it stunts development. Those that profess it as the only way and that anyone that does not buy into some flavor of Christianity, even a clearly cultist sect, is defective, means that it supercedes White identity and becomes a tool for brother wars.
>What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 4:1-5
James 2 is not about salvation. It's about your faith in the eyes of men, not God. Having faith and no works is good enough for salvation (as Romans shows) but having faith and no works is not useful to help your fellow men (as James shows). If you think James is about salvation, then James 2:10 clearly states that you have to be literally perfect.
We aren't justified by works of the law. But we are justified by grace through faith working in love. Not grace alone, not faith alone, not works alone...
>Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
If your works have anything to do with being saved, then it's not grace (which is a free and undeserved gift), it's God paying you for your work.
>But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
It says right here it's faith alone. "Worketh not" meaning you have no good deeds, just faith in Christ's sacrifice to save you.
And to further prove that works and faith are mutually exclusive, there's also Romans 11:6...
>And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
My problem with Christianity is that any random Christian is more likely to be a Zionist than not. How can an entire religion be hijacked like that? Remember: highly motivated people saying they're bringing people closer to god.
Most people are NPCs and will believe whatever they're told. They aren't good or evil. Merely tools.
What are you talking about? Christian Zionism comes from Dispensationalism, which is a uniquely modern American heresy. Maybe you live in a particular area where you're surrounded by these types, but that doesn't mean that's the norm. It's like living in Salt Lake City and thinking every religious person must be a Mormon.
The average European may not worship jews like American dispensationialists, but they tolerate zionist leaders.
But one thing is for certain—with the way history has unfolded, there is no way Christianity is true in the way it says on the tin. I'm too sleepy to write one of my usual essays on the topic, but there are a million glaring holes in the religion that don't get patched up just because you start hating jews.
I think it draws in right wingers because it is *extremely* aesthetic (icons, crusadercore imagery,) and much of the Bible is a highly poetic, evocative text. It feels very powerful to quote it at the bad guy (or a rival peer) like moral spellcraft, once you've shaped it around your preferred ideology.
Also, it's functionally been an extension of European culture for the last few thousand years, and in the soulless modern world, where young White men are *desperate* for any sense of cultural identity, it becomes very easy to latch onto as something you must defend or "carry on," especially in light of the prior point about how gratifying it is to the senses.
Anyone with mixed ancestry who wants in on "White" identity is particularly vulnerable to this, due to Christianity's universalist overtones. Even if they don't explicitly believe that it teaches religion > race, they understand on a limbic level that it muddies the waters. See u/DeplorableGerman . I also once knew a mischling who was a similarly zealous Christian for similar reasons.
And, credit where credit is due—it is a pretty robust practical values system. Its bigger problems, in my opinion, lie more in the deeper lore and metaphysics. But on the ground, it teaches you softcore asceticism, chastity, caring for your body and community... It's no surprise that it produces strong, fertile Whites among those who take those tenants seriously, even if they're ideologically kneecapped in other areas.
> For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Good luck being literally perfect.
Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?
And in like manner also Rahab the harlot, was not she justified by works, receiving the messengers, and sending them out another way?
For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead.
Romans 4:1-5
James 2 is not about salvation. It's about your faith in the eyes of men, not God. Having faith and no works is good enough for salvation (as Romans shows) but having faith and no works is not useful to help your fellow men (as James shows). If you think James is about salvation, then James 2:10 clearly states that you have to be literally perfect.
Grace
Faith
Working
Love
If your works have anything to do with being saved, then it's not grace (which is a free and undeserved gift), it's God paying you for your work.
>But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
It says right here it's faith alone. "Worketh not" meaning you have no good deeds, just faith in Christ's sacrifice to save you.
And to further prove that works and faith are mutually exclusive, there's also Romans 11:6...
>And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.