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Forget being willing to work 12 shifts, Gen Z cant even get interviews because at this point im certain (((HR))) doesnt even read resumes, they just toss it into an algorithm they dont even understand how to use and it rejects everyone who doesnt know how to game th esystem.

Fuck working for jews for 12 hours.

At some point you have to make a decision about what YOUR life is about.

If you are on this planet to make lots of money and have a nice house and be "rich", that road is open to you. Work 12 hour days. Go for it. Do everything "right". Nobody is going to stop you. But some people are content with less and are willing to trade less "success" for more autonomy and free time to do whatever they want.

When I was younger I used to look at the houses on the hill and wonder what it took to get there, because I was ambitious and wanted it all. When I learned what it took, I wasn't interested. The only way to live the life I wanted in the house (ie. sit around and enjoy it) was to be a super hot chick and marry a rich guy who pays for it all. Who is happy? Is the super rich guy happy working 12 hours a day? He doesn't even get to enjoy the house he owns, does he? I don't know.

I guess my point is that it's your life and you get to choose what the hell you do with it. At some point you don't give a shit what your "peers" think at all because you know that one day you'll be dead and ultimately nobody cares about what you do with your life except you and your family. Don't live your life for someone else.

I personally think it is important to throw yourself into your work IF it's something you care about. I've worked two jobs before, and done 10-12 hours a day. It definitely wasn't to just get overtime(but that's fine if that's what you want), I was working toward my ambition or trying to accomplish something I'd always wanted to do with my life. These turned out to be great experiences and I'm very happy I took the time to do them instead of just sitting around and playing video games or whatever.

If you're young and lost, well, that's normal. I don't think many older people will tell that to you young guys. You'll figure it out, I promise. It just takes time. I will tell you this: Do not give up. Don't believe the hype. Life is hard at times (especially as a young man) but it always changes and nothing is tough forever. You will become someone you are proud of, even if your life seems hopeless now. Everyone's life seems hopeless sometimes. Everyone is scared of this or that. Don't believe that everyone has it all figured out except you. Just don't give up and keep trying to become the person you want to be. You really can do it. How boring would life be if you were just given everything you wanted? Boring!

Do something you've always wanted to do, especially if you are young. Now is the time. Take risks (not stupid risks that could cost your life, of course), but risks that are calculated. If you lose everything when you're 26, 29, 32, it doesn't matter. It probably doesn't even matter later on your life either. Stop listening to other people's ideas about what your life should be and figure it out yourself. Even if everything goes to shit you will be happy that you charted your own course and captained your own ship. You may even catch a headwind or two. Nobody will ever take that from you.

Anyway, whatever. You'll be alright dudes.

Sure. But it goes both ways...

There are tons of companies who are salty that people won't work 12+ hour work days while getting paid at the rate of bottom quartile 8 hour work days.

Or even worse... companies that talk about being "work life balanced" with "40 hour work weeks" but then when you look at their work loads, they very clearly having expectations that require people working 60+ or even 80+ hours a week while only paying for 40.

In my prior company, the corporate leviathan kept growing, and it got more and more bureaucratic as the days went by. And this is exactly what happened. At first it started with the CEO himself getting lambasted in an all-hands for admitting that people were being benchmarked against 196 hours every month regardless of the number of workdays in that month. A typical month has 20-22 work days, so that's 8.9-9.8 hours per work day. The CEO himself would publicly brag about work life balance, and then went on even later to lambast people for not putting in 16 hour days. No idea what set him down that path, but he ran that company into the fucking ground.

Over the last few years, recruiters are happy to reach out, and then they pitch me these C*O jobs where the overall comp is in the bottom quartile, negligible equity/options, and completely discretionary profit share. The only people signing up for that shit are losers.

Now it's everybody against Gen Z, it used to be everyone against Gen Y. I am not Gen Z, this issue existed 10 years ago when it was Millennials just don't want to work or buy homes.


I watched the entire team that I work with quit except for one guy that was part time and a boomer who's just working for the health insurance. I explained to my Gen X manager and his boomer manager that they simply do not pay enough to retain anyone. I then explained the real world cost of inflation. Now these two managers make enough that they didn't feel inflation at all. They could not understand that $50k a year is not enough to retain people anymore. I personally use the cost of a 20oz Mountain Dew from 1997 compared to today. In 1997, it was $0.94 for a Mountain Dew. Today it is $2.50 to $3.50.


A big thing for young people to understand is that you must absolutely pay for someone to write your resume for you. The last time I had my resume updated, it cost me $500. I talked to a marketing gal that just stacked the buzzwords on my resume so when it gets scanned, it checks all the boxes.


You can bypass a lot of this shit by going into the trades. The trades can suck. Being an electrician or a plumber will pay you good wages. There are offshoots to those trades that involve more technology. There are technical/computer trades out there that are not IT. There's all sorts of branches of engineering that do not involve drafting, Visio, or making equipment schedules.


So many white collar jobs are going to be eliminated by VI (AI). Even accounting will go to computers more so than it already is.