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11 months ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
Now it's everybody against Gen Z, it used to be everyone against Gen Y. I am not Gen Z, this issue existed 10 years ago when it was Millennials just don't want to work or buy homes.
I watched the entire team that I work with quit except for one guy that was part time and a boomer who's just working for the health insurance. I explained to my Gen X manager and his boomer manager that they simply do not pay enough to retain anyone. I then explained the real world cost of inflation. Now these two managers make enough that they didn't feel inflation at all. They could not understand that $50k a year is not enough to retain people anymore. I personally use the cost of a 20oz Mountain Dew from 1997 compared to today. In 1997, it was $0.94 for a Mountain Dew. Today it is $2.50 to $3.50.
A big thing for young people to understand is that you must absolutely pay for someone to write your resume for you. The last time I had my resume updated, it cost me $500. I talked to a marketing gal that just stacked the buzzwords on my resume so when it gets scanned, it checks all the boxes.
You can bypass a lot of this shit by going into the trades. The trades can suck. Being an electrician or a plumber will pay you good wages. There are offshoots to those trades that involve more technology. There are technical/computer trades out there that are not IT. There's all sorts of branches of engineering that do not involve drafting, Visio, or making equipment schedules.
So many white collar jobs are going to be eliminated by VI (AI). Even accounting will go to computers more so than it already is.
11 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)2 children
> Being an electrician or a plumber will pay you good wages.
Because you pay with your body! All those guys end up with broken bodies and it's still not enough at the end. Sure, diesel mechanics are in demand, but that's because the guys that actually know what the job entails don't want to do it anymore. The same for machinists and every other blue-collar trade. No blue-collar tradesman will be sipping martinis, exchanging stories at the country club with white-collar professionals in retirement. The trades are not any "promised land" of opportunity, and every market pays different. The ones that pay more only do so because the cost of living is higher, so the market makes sure that everyone is eating shit equally across the board no matter what. *Fuck the trades!*
There's network guys I work with that wear the same gear as electricians because they're pulling wire all day long. 50% server management, 50% pulling wire.
Go into automation programming. 50% programming/50% physically troubleshooting electrical issues in the wiring. It's a white collar job that requires blue collar work.
Go into plumbing, find out you need to learn electronics to troubleshoot issues.
Go into pipefitting, find out you need to learn computers to troubleshoot half of the new valves you install.
Get into the elevator union. Get paid more than CEO's. Sip whatever drink you want at the country club.
Who the fuck wants to sip martinis as the country club? Every tradesman I know wants to go to the ATV park and rip thru the trails. The fuck are you going on about you lack of experience hack?
11 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
Great post. The only way it’s still worth it IMHO, is if you’re able to get MOSTLY out before your 30 by owning, and starting your own practice to let the 18-30 year olds do the “nigger” work. Even then, you have to understand that you’re likely going to take a huge pay cut for your first three to five years of starting. A good way to balance it is to have something easier on the side you can do for the first few years even if it’s just part time hours/weekend work. I had a friend do this a decade ago, and it worked out great, at least for him.
11 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
Yes, at some point you and someone else in your trade have to team up to start your own business and hire younger men to do the work. I know of tradesmen that have survived (and some thrived) by banning together to merge their businesses to reduce their overhead and increase their access to capital. Blue-collar guys always want to "lone wolf" their business and hardly ever think to partner with the guys they trust/ respect in their trade. My advice to any young man going into the trades is to identify their peers who are smart and approach them about starting a business together. That's the only way you can transition to being a manager and maintain your independence.
I watched the entire team that I work with quit except for one guy that was part time and a boomer who's just working for the health insurance. I explained to my Gen X manager and his boomer manager that they simply do not pay enough to retain anyone. I then explained the real world cost of inflation. Now these two managers make enough that they didn't feel inflation at all. They could not understand that $50k a year is not enough to retain people anymore. I personally use the cost of a 20oz Mountain Dew from 1997 compared to today. In 1997, it was $0.94 for a Mountain Dew. Today it is $2.50 to $3.50.
A big thing for young people to understand is that you must absolutely pay for someone to write your resume for you. The last time I had my resume updated, it cost me $500. I talked to a marketing gal that just stacked the buzzwords on my resume so when it gets scanned, it checks all the boxes.
You can bypass a lot of this shit by going into the trades. The trades can suck. Being an electrician or a plumber will pay you good wages. There are offshoots to those trades that involve more technology. There are technical/computer trades out there that are not IT. There's all sorts of branches of engineering that do not involve drafting, Visio, or making equipment schedules.
So many white collar jobs are going to be eliminated by VI (AI). Even accounting will go to computers more so than it already is.
Because you pay with your body! All those guys end up with broken bodies and it's still not enough at the end. Sure, diesel mechanics are in demand, but that's because the guys that actually know what the job entails don't want to do it anymore. The same for machinists and every other blue-collar trade. No blue-collar tradesman will be sipping martinis, exchanging stories at the country club with white-collar professionals in retirement. The trades are not any "promised land" of opportunity, and every market pays different. The ones that pay more only do so because the cost of living is higher, so the market makes sure that everyone is eating shit equally across the board no matter what. *Fuck the trades!*
There's network guys I work with that wear the same gear as electricians because they're pulling wire all day long. 50% server management, 50% pulling wire.
Go into automation programming. 50% programming/50% physically troubleshooting electrical issues in the wiring. It's a white collar job that requires blue collar work.
Go into plumbing, find out you need to learn electronics to troubleshoot issues.
Go into pipefitting, find out you need to learn computers to troubleshoot half of the new valves you install.
Get into the elevator union. Get paid more than CEO's. Sip whatever drink you want at the country club.
Who the fuck wants to sip martinis as the country club? Every tradesman I know wants to go to the ATV park and rip thru the trails. The fuck are you going on about you lack of experience hack?