6 days ago27 points(+0/-0/+27Score on mirror)4 children
Considering the relative populations of the countries posting, this actually is a bit of a soft confirm of the jewish botting theory. We literally get drowned out by bots on the internet anytime we try to have a proper conversation.
Originally uncovered on reddit, which I reconfirmed during the 2016 election, chatbots were shaping people's perceptions of topics long before their existence was even acknowledged to the public. They essentially got outed (to those of us who pay attention) because the first few comments in a reddit-style forum are the ones most likely to be promoted to the top. This means that, for hot topics (like politics in 2016) they are forced to post responses in inhuman spans of time. Check out this example of a popular account, who would create the 'top comment' of 109 words (not including markdown) in just 2 minutes, yielding 55 WPM assuming the account started typing the very second the post was posted. https://files.catbox.moe/ni9jaq.png
This reddit account was banned for posting bait links in arguments he ended up in with bots, showing the links were instantly clicked with IPs that trace to Amazon AWS. Supposedly, modern chatbots are just now gaining this functionality, and he proved this back in 2017: https://files.catbox.moe/42dskv.png
I have a ton more on this; my original posts about Twitter being the stomping ground for early chatbots + my posts about the entire internet being backdoored by design are likely the main reason Voat went down in the first place.
6 days ago20 points(+0/-0/+20Score on mirror)1 child
I am firm a believe all the faggot nonsense we see now was completely astroturfed by (((bot nets))), its too convenient for it to have blown up just as (((social media))) was pushed on unsuspecting normies, when before it was barely tolerated despite decades of (((hollywood))) attempts to normalize it, and often mocked openly.
6 days ago12 points(+0/-0/+12Score on mirror)2 children
Absolutely correct.
The origin of chatbots on the internet, at least in 2016, was arguing against people against vaccines on twitter.
Seriously, the origin of the modern chatbot was to argue provax on twitter. Because amplifying the provax position was worth making digital shills. Excerpt from my original post on this:
> In 2015, DARPA held an open challenge, where the goal was simply to quickly and accurately identify political chatbots - so called 'influence bots' - from actual users. The battlefield was Twitter, and the corpus comprised 4.1 Million tweets from just over 7000 users, all arguing for and against vaccination. Mixed in with these users was 39 highly evolved influence bots, **all of which argued for vaccination.**
> **Every Influence Chatbot represented a pro-vaccine stance.**
> Here's the whitepaper (read it - it's good): https://arxiv.org/abs/1601.05140
This is why we can never allow society to end up in a position where most interaction happens online.
6 days ago12 points(+0/-0/+12Score on mirror)4 children
I'm convinced this "AI" boom is old news to the intelligence agencies. There's no way they haven't been using and developing an inhouse version of what you see available for the public right now. Hobbyists were fucking around with this tech in r/SubredditSimulator ten years ago. The whole internet is fake and gay except for you and me.
You are correct. These “AI” companies are fronts for the control apparatus to leak military technology into the public sphere. Elon is an avatar for a lot of these projects. Whenever you see Elon, just think of him as a “self made” (dripping in irony) extension of the government, which explains all of those tasty government contracts he manages to accumulate.
The tech progress was suspiciously consistent. The moore law held still for 50 years, which is not a law of the universe but just a hunch that guy had.
I think they hit the physical limits of processing units back in 1970s, but kept slow rolling the releases for the public to control the adoption of technology.
We as public consumers are only now (around 2018) getting to the physical limits of how small transistors can be.
Yeah, I had AI books as a kid I bought from a used book store about programming some word predicition models in LISP (which is an all but dead language now to my knowledge, though it would be funny to see it make a comeback because it has more parenthesis than a rabbinical convention) that were probably written in the 90s. The only thing thats changed is that we have better graphics cards to run the AI at reasonable speed. I guarantee governments had the tech to run a convincing enough chatbot to shape social media in the early 2000s.
5 days ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
There's no real way to prove it. I just assume anybody posting MSM talking points is a bot. And if it's a real person agreeing with MSM talking points are they any more real than a bot?
5 days ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
honestly, i've gotten to a point where i consider Noticers to be real humans by default with the word being out on anyone else. watch jews churn out Noticer/ConPro-style bots to poison our well u/#topkek
5 days ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
well just chat with people online, offline, however you do it. and lurking around too. see how people & "people" like to respond, how they speak, type, etc.
or even just simply pay more attention in your usual interactions and lurking spaces.
you notice trends and patterns. sometimes people get exposed. over time it'll become second nature like with instantly knowing when mainstream news is spouting BS
This was the whole point of releasing these technologies - to break trust in anything digital.
The main way is that you need to only interact online with accounts that you know belong to people that you know. Unfortunately, the days of the wild-west-ish giant online beer hall are basically over.
Basically, methods do exist, but you need to have access to the site at the admin level. The primary methods for IDing influence bots are through cluster analysis, and you need to see who upvotes who for that to work.
Back when OG Voat was going down, and people were lining up alternatives, I was trying to tell the guys that all that is really needed is to make the votes public. If a comment says +31, hovering it should show a list of who the 31 are. Not only does that prevent tampering at the admin level (e.g. /u/spez tier), but it also allows clustering analysis to be done.
> at least we have ConPro [et. al.]
We could be drowned out it a moment. We exist because jews haven't decided to shut the place down. Seriously, what, are the admins going to self fund? Then the yids harass, just like Voat, which drove one admin away (Atko), and if that doesn't work they DDOS endlessly, making the hosting costs retarded, which is how they got Putt (in a roundabout way, it caused him to take on a jewish investor, who rugpulled him).
We really do need better, jew resistant, alternatives.
> Altman is among the company’s largest shareholders, behind only Condé Nast parent Advance Magazine Publishers, Chinese internet giant Tencent and Fidelity.
Founded by a guy named Solomon Neuhaus, after he changed his name to Sam Newhouse. In other words, reddit's jewish founders sold it to a jewish media conglomerate.
6 days ago21 points(+0/-0/+21Score on mirror)1 child
That's just one site. Now think on a global scale including scored of course. BTW, they do all that gas lighting with our money. I would love to take a look at the raw data from Google Analytics to plot these worldwide charts.
5 days ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
Not necessarily. Torba (as much as he's done shady stuff in the past), has said that blanket IP bans on nations, even though VPNs are available, still works well to quash bad behavior from specific nations.
It's the same thing as door locks. A good thief can easily get around a lock, but it serves as an impediment, reducing the likelihood of the thief stealing. Doors, walls, a dog, an alarm, a gun, security guards, walls, they all serve the same purpose, and the more you have, the less likely you are to get thieved, as each impediment adds on top of the other impediments.
Emails and IP addresses supposedly leaked.
Edit:
"User data is safe, hacker was ethical and didn’t want to release this info. They only released mod and janny IPs and emails. It was payback for closing /qa/ board by a splinter group Soyjak Party."
I don't trust the image since 4plebs is a separate site.
4chan used to show IP counter of Pol, before Moot sold it or cooperated with the feds. It showed Israel as having the highest engagement; I.e. Meme flags were typically Israeli IPs hiding their IP origin nation flag.
Originally uncovered on reddit, which I reconfirmed during the 2016 election, chatbots were shaping people's perceptions of topics long before their existence was even acknowledged to the public. They essentially got outed (to those of us who pay attention) because the first few comments in a reddit-style forum are the ones most likely to be promoted to the top. This means that, for hot topics (like politics in 2016) they are forced to post responses in inhuman spans of time. Check out this example of a popular account, who would create the 'top comment' of 109 words (not including markdown) in just 2 minutes, yielding 55 WPM assuming the account started typing the very second the post was posted. https://files.catbox.moe/ni9jaq.png
This reddit account was banned for posting bait links in arguments he ended up in with bots, showing the links were instantly clicked with IPs that trace to Amazon AWS. Supposedly, modern chatbots are just now gaining this functionality, and he proved this back in 2017: https://files.catbox.moe/42dskv.png
I have a ton more on this; my original posts about Twitter being the stomping ground for early chatbots + my posts about the entire internet being backdoored by design are likely the main reason Voat went down in the first place.
The origin of chatbots on the internet, at least in 2016, was arguing against people against vaccines on twitter.
Seriously, the origin of the modern chatbot was to argue provax on twitter. Because amplifying the provax position was worth making digital shills. Excerpt from my original post on this:
> In 2015, DARPA held an open challenge, where the goal was simply to quickly and accurately identify political chatbots - so called 'influence bots' - from actual users. The battlefield was Twitter, and the corpus comprised 4.1 Million tweets from just over 7000 users, all arguing for and against vaccination. Mixed in with these users was 39 highly evolved influence bots, **all of which argued for vaccination.**
> **Every Influence Chatbot represented a pro-vaccine stance.**
> Here's the whitepaper (read it - it's good): https://arxiv.org/abs/1601.05140
This is why we can never allow society to end up in a position where most interaction happens online.
if thereis an internet,how come not online, seems natural
unfortunately the only (((solution))) to the (((bot))) problem is digital ID im afraid.
Too late it seems
Lol, relevant
I think they hit the physical limits of processing units back in 1970s, but kept slow rolling the releases for the public to control the adoption of technology.
We as public consumers are only now (around 2018) getting to the physical limits of how small transistors can be.
even if say, i was to post incriminating, doxing pictures and info of myself, that could still easily be made up content, deepfakes and so on.
or even just simply pay more attention in your usual interactions and lurking spaces.
you notice trends and patterns. sometimes people get exposed. over time it'll become second nature like with instantly knowing when mainstream news is spouting BS
The main way is that you need to only interact online with accounts that you know belong to people that you know. Unfortunately, the days of the wild-west-ish giant online beer hall are basically over.
> Unfortunately, the days of the wild-west-ish giant online beer hall are basically over.
at least we have ConPro, VOAT, NS subs etc.
You're not wrong.
Basically, methods do exist, but you need to have access to the site at the admin level. The primary methods for IDing influence bots are through cluster analysis, and you need to see who upvotes who for that to work.
Back when OG Voat was going down, and people were lining up alternatives, I was trying to tell the guys that all that is really needed is to make the votes public. If a comment says +31, hovering it should show a list of who the 31 are. Not only does that prevent tampering at the admin level (e.g. /u/spez tier), but it also allows clustering analysis to be done.
> at least we have ConPro [et. al.]
We could be drowned out it a moment. We exist because jews haven't decided to shut the place down. Seriously, what, are the admins going to self fund? Then the yids harass, just like Voat, which drove one admin away (Atko), and if that doesn't work they DDOS endlessly, making the hosting costs retarded, which is how they got Putt (in a roundabout way, it caused him to take on a jewish investor, who rugpulled him).
We really do need better, jew resistant, alternatives.
> Altman is among the company’s largest shareholders, behind only Condé Nast parent Advance Magazine Publishers, Chinese internet giant Tencent and Fidelity.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/29/sam-altmans-reddit-stake-now-worth-over-1-billion-after-earnings-pop.html
Founded by a guy named Solomon Neuhaus, after he changed his name to Sam Newhouse. In other words, reddit's jewish founders sold it to a jewish media conglomerate.