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The gypsy Travellers spoke a mix of Irish and English that's classified as its own pidgin language, shelta.
It can sound very different from Irish *or* English because it mixes pronunciation, grammar, and orthography with English. Which is a language that is nothing like Irish in its own right. A lot of the words in the language are a hodgepodge of English and Irish that form something that sounds like neither.
But, to be fair, I doubt they had actors speaking shelta. It's almost a dead language. There's 30,000 speakers left in the UK who probably today speak a variety of the language with heavy english admixture (levels of English and Irish mixture in the language varied quite a bit)
My guess is a middle ground. They're supposed to be speaking to jeets in romani, but used romanian instead.
And there were other gypsies who were supposed to be Irish, and they fucked up and used romanian again instead of shelta. Likely because they referred to all of the above as gypsies and got confused about what the hell they were doing.
Without watching the show I have little to go off of, though. But from what I gather, there are supposed to be Irish gypsies in the show *and* general issue variety pajeets.
ok yeah i looked around a bunch and i was confused because i thought "doesn't romanian sound like italian? that...sounds off."
From what i found, in the earlier seasons, they fucked up and used romanian, which they apparently corrected later on, with the clip i posted being after the correction, supposedly. So, given that the clip i sent earlier doesn't sound like a butchering of a romance language, i'd wager to say that it is meant to be so called "Romani" and that they are indeed meant to be jeets.
Cillian Murphy butchers all of it pretty badly. I saw some gypsies bitching online about how he can't pronounce romani and I saw Romanians bitching about his pronunciation of romanian too
This is *romanian*, which is odd. The gypsies didn't speak Romanian
But I did some research. Apparently there were 2 colossal fuckups on the part of the BBC.
The actors used Romanian instead of Romani to speak to gypsies. But the gypsies were supposed to be Irish, apparently, so they were supposed to use neither Romanian nor Romani and were supposed to speak shelta.
It can sound very different from Irish *or* English because it mixes pronunciation, grammar, and orthography with English. Which is a language that is nothing like Irish in its own right. A lot of the words in the language are a hodgepodge of English and Irish that form something that sounds like neither.
But, to be fair, I doubt they had actors speaking shelta. It's almost a dead language. There's 30,000 speakers left in the UK who probably today speak a variety of the language with heavy english admixture (levels of English and Irish mixture in the language varied quite a bit)
My guess is a middle ground. They're supposed to be speaking to jeets in romani, but used romanian instead.
And there were other gypsies who were supposed to be Irish, and they fucked up and used romanian again instead of shelta. Likely because they referred to all of the above as gypsies and got confused about what the hell they were doing.
Without watching the show I have little to go off of, though. But from what I gather, there are supposed to be Irish gypsies in the show *and* general issue variety pajeets.
From what i found, in the earlier seasons, they fucked up and used romanian, which they apparently corrected later on, with the clip i posted being after the correction, supposedly. So, given that the clip i sent earlier doesn't sound like a butchering of a romance language, i'd wager to say that it is meant to be so called "Romani" and that they are indeed meant to be jeets.
But I did some research. Apparently there were 2 colossal fuckups on the part of the BBC.
The actors used Romanian instead of Romani to speak to gypsies. But the gypsies were supposed to be Irish, apparently, so they were supposed to use neither Romanian nor Romani and were supposed to speak shelta.