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Consume Tariffs (media.scored.co)
posted 1 year ago by Spoonks on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +87Score on mirror )
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Fabius on scored.co
1 year ago 11 points (+0 / -0 / +11Score on mirror ) 4 children
>Foreign products become more expensive and then domestic products increase in turn;

No they don't. That's the point. The domestic product retains the competitive advantage against the foreign product, which leads to increased market share. If a domestic company wants to raise prices to match the foreign prices in order to increase profit, the run the risk of domestic competition, which WILL happen, because the nature of markets and business always pushes prices as low as they can until the product becomes a loss.

This is already happening, but because foreign countries have essentially 1/10th the labor costs of domestic companies, they have captured the market on all labor intensive goods that require low to no skill. It is an unfair advantage, which is why American companies build labor infrastructure off shore - to save on labor costs to be able to compete not only domestically but internationally.

A tariff places a cost on foreign made goods, and when that tariff is high enough, it eliminates the labor advantage of offshore enterprise and encourages domestic production. This is why it's called protectionism - you are protecting your national industries from cheap foreign goods. Every country on earth does it to the U.S. because we hold a massive market share for many goods and services.

In the 90s, business interests pushed for trade agreements with third world countries so they could save on labor costs and increase both competitive advantage and profit. That's why the U.S. was gutted of its manufacturing industry. There is a gook somewhere that will work in a factory for $2 a day and sew your adidas track suit.

Will prices rise? In the short term, possibly until the market regulates to the new conditions, but the other upside of protectionism is that the money spent on labor remains domestic and is distributed nationally to be spent nationally. That means the guy who sews your adidas sweatpants keeps his money in the U.S., buys U.S. goods, which stimulates the domestic economy (literally the exchange of money) instead of it being syphoned out of the country to be spent in other economies which do not benefit American workers.

As an example, if I buy my neighbors oranges, and he buys his neighbors shoes, and that person buys my screwdrivers, the money acts as it should - as a transfer of wealth between people in a closed system. Nobody actually loses in this scenario and the "economy" is strong as everyone gets what they need. Alternatively, if the person who I buy oranges from lives in Cambodia, he buys HIS neighbors goods, removing that capital from the local economy which makes everyone without access to that economy poorer. This is why (((internationalists))) don't care about local economies and are okay with globalism - they have access to all economies on earth, while the local worker only has access to his own.

In short, protectionism should create a "rising tide" in our national economy as wages increase, jobs are created, and capital remains within the closed circuit of local economies.

>China has silicone, we don't, so we need to trade with them or not having any computer chips.

This is a ridiculous statement. Silica is one of the most common elements in universe. The U.S. invented the computer chip. The reason why it's outsourced is precisely because of the reasons I stated above.
EternalJew on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 3 children
It's not just labour costs. Countries like china have subsidies for specific industries like automobiles which can seriously harm domestic manufacturing
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Countries like Canada, a supposed ally, subsidise their own agriculture and then slap a 400% tariff on Amwerican dairy.

I make sure to remind my fellows of this when they start getting riled about the tariffs; *we* started it 30 years ago.
EternalJew on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
That's a bit misleading. Every government with competent leadership subsidises agriculture and stock breeding as well as related industries to keep quality of life higher in rural areas so urban ones don't outpace them completely and keep these industries alive in case of shortage of imports and/or conflicts.

Canada in particular has that tariff once a certain quota is met which, if I am not mistaken, the USA hasn't been able to meet.
Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Even if you like tariffs in theory, it's hard to believe that the government can't and won't fuck this up.

Trump can't be the first U.S. President to try this. Can anyone give me a history lesson about previous times U.S. presidents imposed tariffs on multiple nations worth this much money in revenue?
EternalJew on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
The government was funded by taxes imposed on imported goods until 1913, with the revenue act of 1913 which reimposed income tax. They say the 1930 Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act was a fuck up. You can't really take it at face value though since the great depression was ongoing at the time.
LawrysSeasonedSoap on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
So to grow their economy, the gave the industries grants instead of taxing imports? Interesting...
EternalJew on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
No, they did that to drive market share toward electric vehicles domestically for whatever reason (likely population control) and eat into legacy auto manufacturers market share internationally and thus crippling economies reliant on them, like the USA, Germany, France, Italy etc.
llamatr0n on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
The rest of your post is spot on but ...

The pure silicon used in the world's chip fabs mostly comes from Japan.

Ricardian comparative advantage is a factor but is mostly at the corporate level now rather than the country. e.g. Italian leather used to be considered the best because of the wealth of experience and knowledge transfer of Italian leather workers. Nowadays it is factories full of Chinese migrant workers living in Italy so they can still stamp "Made in Italy" on them and the Italians don't work.

e.g. [Giorgio Armani bags were produced by exploited Chinese workers near Milan, Italian police say](https://apnews.com/article/giorgio-armani-italian-fashion-supply-chain-abuses-exploitation-40cd94429e5a053c500383127a5c4ca2)
LawrysSeasonedSoap on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Foreign products become more expensive and then domestic products increase in turn;

> No they don't. That's the point. (...) Will prices rise? In the short term, possibly until the market regulates to the new conditions

I find it funny how you came to my same conclusion by the end. Its really simple, if you want to sell oranges to your neighbor for $3 but he can get them for $1 a town over, you will have to lower your price or potentially lose business. If a tax comes in to make the competition $5, you will likely raise your price $3 or more. In turn.

> capital remains within the closed circuit of local economies

Sound logic. But the government takes 30-50% on income and then ~10% on sales and on all the materials and tools needed, and more taxes on the land and the factory and many other various licensing fees. The money hardly stays within our local economy. Most of it goes to bullshit like USAID.

> The U.S. invented the computer chip

Things that used to be affordable become unobtainable to the lower classes. I spent $30 on this device. What's the American equivalent? 1000+ probably. Computer chips are a great example of a product necessary to our economy that would become so expensive that itd be ultimately unaffordable to most people.
Fabius on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>If a tax comes in to make the competition $5, you will likely raise your price $3 or more. In turn.

Not if the competition in your own market remains. If someone else can start an orange business they can undercut you to gain a foothold in the market. This is the nature of business and markets and the reason we are in this predicament to begin with. The Chinese can undercut American companies on price because their "overhead" is less than their competition.

Prices always approach zero while quality goes up. The only way a non-governmental monopoly can exists is buy having the best quality good at the lowest price possible. You must literally eliminate all competition and possibility for competition. This is why non-governmental monopolies have never existed, and if they do, it will be the best product imaginable and good for the consumer.
Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
So what next? MAGAtards will complain that we need to import more immigrants to fill the new domestic factories that now produce cheap low skilled shit?

Are any of you White guys eager to work in one of these new domestic factories to produce widgets every day? Not me.

The guys who seem to be pro-tariff don't seem to see some of the downsides. The government is not going to spend the new revenue on pro-White agenda. It will be spent on programs to fuck over White people. Also any domestic manufacturing will likely require more laborers because neither Republicans nor Trump have the balls to end the welfare state and make low iq niggers and spics get to work in factories.
Fabius on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
>Are any of you White guys eager to work in one of these new domestic factories to produce widgets every day? Not me.

What will probably happen is there will be massive innovation in automation. We're essentially abolishing slavery.

>The government is not going to spend the new revenue on pro-White agenda. [...]

They never were anyway. So you'd be okay with tariffs if they promoted White people? Bizarre take.



Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I'd be less opposed to taxation if the government weren't zionist occupied and weaponized against Whites. Yes. Less opposed, but still opposed.
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