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A $200 seems reasonable for a toaster that will last a life time

> trust Chinese “steel”

There's an office building in Thailand that tried this.

It collapsed right away during the earthquake.

Like the only building in Thailand to collapse.

Chinese rebar. Substandard.

Exactly. I would rather have something of auck great quality that will last a lifetime instead of this shit jew nigger chink shit garbage. My microwave is from Whirlpool that was built in 1986 in bento harbor Michigan by White collar workers. I recently rebuilt it for like a hundred bucks and it is basically brand fucken new. It still has the Solid State technology in it. The power and functionality that it has nothing like this is available on the market.

With wifi and alexa so they can listen in on all your shit!

I will say this. Tariffs make some stuff i buy more expensive. Sometimes i order obscure battery replacements or appliance parts or electrolytic capacitors and other component parts from overseas. however, other nations placing tariffs on the USA does not hurt me because i do not manufacture anything that i am trying to sell overseas.

So personally, i am against tariffs. Someone has to get into debatable macro-economics to try to make a case why i should support them.

Sometimes that rule doesn't apply. When iphones first came out everyone in the world was getting them even though it would cost more than a months wages. Although made in china, that was a uniquely american product at the time. If it was made in the US, I'm sure people would have still bought it.

Mexican manufacturing is responsible for [30% to 44% of the United States’ annual imports of home appliances.](https://napsintl.com/mexico-manufacturing-news/why-more-appliance-manufacturers-are-moving-to-mexico/)

(although that was 2021)

And any manufacturing that is opened will be used as justification to ship in more shitskins "legally"

>Foreign products become more expensive and then domestic products increase in turn;

No they don't. That's the point. The domestic product retains the competitive advantage against the foreign product, which leads to increased market share. If a domestic company wants to raise prices to match the foreign prices in order to increase profit, the run the risk of domestic competition, which WILL happen, because the nature of markets and business always pushes prices as low as they can until the product becomes a loss.

This is already happening, but because foreign countries have essentially 1/10th the labor costs of domestic companies, they have captured the market on all labor intensive goods that require low to no skill. It is an unfair advantage, which is why American companies build labor infrastructure off shore - to save on labor costs to be able to compete not only domestically but internationally.

A tariff places a cost on foreign made goods, and when that tariff is high enough, it eliminates the labor advantage of offshore enterprise and encourages domestic production. This is why it's called protectionism - you are protecting your national industries from cheap foreign goods. Every country on earth does it to the U.S. because we hold a massive market share for many goods and services.

In the 90s, business interests pushed for trade agreements with third world countries so they could save on labor costs and increase both competitive advantage and profit. That's why the U.S. was gutted of its manufacturing industry. There is a gook somewhere that will work in a factory for $2 a day and sew your adidas track suit.

Will prices rise? In the short term, possibly until the market regulates to the new conditions, but the other upside of protectionism is that the money spent on labor remains domestic and is distributed nationally to be spent nationally. That means the guy who sews your adidas sweatpants keeps his money in the U.S., buys U.S. goods, which stimulates the domestic economy (literally the exchange of money) instead of it being syphoned out of the country to be spent in other economies which do not benefit American workers.

As an example, if I buy my neighbors oranges, and he buys his neighbors shoes, and that person buys my screwdrivers, the money acts as it should - as a transfer of wealth between people in a closed system. Nobody actually loses in this scenario and the "economy" is strong as everyone gets what they need. Alternatively, if the person who I buy oranges from lives in Cambodia, he buys HIS neighbors goods, removing that capital from the local economy which makes everyone without access to that economy poorer. This is why (((internationalists))) don't care about local economies and are okay with globalism - they have access to all economies on earth, while the local worker only has access to his own.

In short, protectionism should create a "rising tide" in our national economy as wages increase, jobs are created, and capital remains within the closed circuit of local economies.

>China has silicone, we don't, so we need to trade with them or not having any computer chips.

This is a ridiculous statement. Silica is one of the most common elements in universe. The U.S. invented the computer chip. The reason why it's outsourced is precisely because of the reasons I stated above.

>Someone please explain how this helps our economy AT ALL

You are only focusing on part of the comprehensive overhaul of the economy.

1) One of the end goals of tariffs is to replace the federal income tax. Trump has talked many times about abolishing the IRS and replacing it with the ERS (External Revenue Service).

2) Another part of Trump's economic plan to mitigate the tariff impact on America is massive investment in domestic energy production. More domestic energy = lower costs on everything for everyone + makes our exports more competitive from the lower cost.

You're missing one simple thing.

Foreign products become so expensive that they're not selling and thus not worth shipping here.

Two choices. Lose sales. Open factory in the US.

To those who think "tooling" is a challenge. It's 2025. "Tooling" is a problem if you want to make microchips. For the level of precision to make a toaster it's not anything anyone would even seriously think about. Plus capital outlays get special tax and depreciation treatment.

Anyways..

My concern is that if America pits tariffs on Canada, and Canada responds in kind, and neither have the capacity to produce what they need due to globalist atrophy, then tariffs are just a 20% sales tax going to the governments running ads to replace my people, my family, and myself with brownoids.

Maybe I'd feel better if he'd also managed to put a lid on immogration but, as it stands, it's going to be foreigners *in the US* producing everything and sending that money home anyway.

As economists say

[The cure for high prices is high prices](https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/the-cure-for-high-prices-is-high-prices)

but if they knew economics, they wouldn't be leftists

Lol, I've been fixing my toaster over for over 20 years now. Kids think I'm nuts but I've paid something like $3/year for that thing.

Cast iron pan + fire = toaster.