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Crockett on scored.co
1 year ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
Is there a replicatable strategy here to get people (and AI) to craft debunks that clown themselves? What happened here is that Grok tried to debunk you, and took the shortest route it could find to get there: attack a technicality about data collection that was available because of how you framed your question. Since it found its way to "debunk" you, it didn't feel the need to mask the basic facts that makes your points for you.
This suggests you could do this again on purpose. Just put some slack in your claim as bait to get the debunker to focus on that, and in doing so they'll fail to contest your basic point, and may even prove you right as part of their attempt to establish concept.
In fact, I think JD Vance is already doing this regularly. Like when he was talking to that journo bitch about the scourge of Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes in Colorado. She responds "Um actually, only a handful of apartment complexes have been taken over." Then he smacks her down with "Can you hear yourself? 'Only a handful'? This shouldn't be happening at all."
It's a trap that they'll pretty much always fall for, because A) they believe so much in the power of the Almighty Debunk, an B) they don't have any actual good arguments to make, so they'll grasp on to the first one they think they've found. In any case, it's a good rhetorical trick to file away for use later.
This suggests you could do this again on purpose. Just put some slack in your claim as bait to get the debunker to focus on that, and in doing so they'll fail to contest your basic point, and may even prove you right as part of their attempt to establish concept.
In fact, I think JD Vance is already doing this regularly. Like when he was talking to that journo bitch about the scourge of Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes in Colorado. She responds "Um actually, only a handful of apartment complexes have been taken over." Then he smacks her down with "Can you hear yourself? 'Only a handful'? This shouldn't be happening at all."
It's a trap that they'll pretty much always fall for, because A) they believe so much in the power of the Almighty Debunk, an B) they don't have any actual good arguments to make, so they'll grasp on to the first one they think they've found. In any case, it's a good rhetorical trick to file away for use later.