I want us all to become better at debating normies, because pushing ConPro ideas is the most important thing we can do for the White race at this point in time.
I've written [a guide on how to talk to normies about race](https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/17txtLGjgZ/how-to-talk-to-normies-about-rac/c), so this is going to be a part two and I'm probably going to turn it into a series.
Read this, think about it, and feel free to use these ideas.
How to talk to normies: Hitler is bad and the holocaust.
If you're in a situation where a normie says that Hitler was evil, how do you respond, exactly? Imagine that you're happy to show your power level, what do you say exactly?
Saying "*Oh no, Hitler was good!*" is just not going to go anywhere. Why? Because you can't debate generalities and abstract statements.
Watch [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY5t6iUzajk) and learn from Ben Shapiro, that kike is quite good at debating libtards.
Pay special attention to point 3 and 5.
You should say: "*Why do you think Hitler is evil? What is it that he's done that you think is bad?*". This will probably be a shock to the average NPC who was just reciting his program. From here, you put your opponent on the defensive, where he needs to come up with reasons to justify why he thinks Hitler is bad. And each one of these reasons that they may come up with is much easier to reject than the original abstract statement.
For example, here are some of the things they may say and my quick responses.
Note that this is just what I'd say to normies, not necessarily a full argument.
1) **He's a dictator**: and? why do you assume democracy is better? Germany had been a democracy for only 15 years before he took power, and even that was established by force. Democracy was never a part of Germany's history, so I don't see what your point is.
2) **He attacked Poland, he started a war, he wanted to grab other people's land**: that was just normal at the time and for all of history. At the time of WWII England had conquered a quarter of the entire planet, France almost another quarter, and even America had colonies. I don't see what's special about Germany wanting to do the exact same thing.
3) **He killed a bazillion people**: Hitler didn't kill a single person before the war started. Look it up, that's just a historical fact. He just rounded up communist terrorists, most of which happened to be Jews, who were given prison sentences. But nobody was killed during peacetime. As for the war, blaming a single man for all the deaths of a war is asinine, it's like saying that George Bush killed 1 million people in Iraq.
4) **He's racist**: if being racist is loving your own race and wanting White people to prosper, then yes. I don't see what's wrong with that.
5) **He started WWII**. No, that is just not true. It's Britain and France that declared war on Germany starting a massive conflict. Germany just had a border dispute with Poland, it was Britain and France that turned it into a world war. I assure you that nobody who likes Hitler today thinks he's personally responsible for WWII.
And at some point they'll mention the final boss... the HOLOCAUST!
The moment in which they start talking about the holocaust or the persecutions of the Jews, you need to switch gear and go on the offensive.
Think about it for a moment. Saying that "*the holocaust didn't happen*" makes good memes and shocking content, but it will never convince a normie. You can argue until you're blue in the face that gas chambers didn't really exist, or that it's not possible to cremate 900k corpses in open air pyres, or that there should have been bones remaining... Believe me, I've tried. The normie will simply move the goalpost. They will ultimately say that it was evil to put the Jews in concentration camps at all, and they'll feel that they won the argument. Even if you can prove to them that the holocaust didn't happen, at most you can achieve a draw. Stop being on the defensive and go on the attack!
At the first mention of the holocaust / the Jews, the first thing that should come out of your mouth is: **The Jews tried to genocide all European people like they've done in Russia and Ukraine. Hitler tried to defend Europe from the Bolsheviks.** In a war people die. The Jews were murdering German soldiers behind the frontlines, which is a war crime by the way, so retaliation was the only option they had. What were the Germans supposed to do? Letting themselves be killed by the Jews? The Jews are mass murdering Palestinian children right now, but you somehow think that 80 years ago they were peaceful and innocent? The Jews always whine about their victims not letting themselves be killed.
That's it. It's pointless to try to argue that the holocaust didn't happen. Some Jews were killed by the SS, this is undeniable. Instead of trying to argue that we were peaceful and innocent, you must drive home the point that Jews are not the victims. They whine and claim to be victims, but they are not the victims.
If you were to engage a literal Jew, that's what you should tell him: *your entire culture and religion is about seeing yourself as the victims, but you were not a victim in WWII. You were not the victims, you were the perpetrators.*
I assure you that this will go under the normie's or the Jew's skin, and they will remember it forever. You break their worldview. Their worldview includes people who inexplicably deny the holocaust, the "holocaust deniers" are just part of their plan. Hearing the perspective that Jews are not the victims is what can damage their programming. We have a real chance now with what's happening in Palestine to make normies see the Jews for who they really are. The children of the devil.
I've written [a guide on how to talk to normies about race](https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/17txtLGjgZ/how-to-talk-to-normies-about-rac/c), so this is going to be a part two and I'm probably going to turn it into a series.
Read this, think about it, and feel free to use these ideas.
How to talk to normies: Hitler is bad and the holocaust.
If you're in a situation where a normie says that Hitler was evil, how do you respond, exactly? Imagine that you're happy to show your power level, what do you say exactly?
Saying "*Oh no, Hitler was good!*" is just not going to go anywhere. Why? Because you can't debate generalities and abstract statements.
Watch [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY5t6iUzajk) and learn from Ben Shapiro, that kike is quite good at debating libtards.
Pay special attention to point 3 and 5.
You should say: "*Why do you think Hitler is evil? What is it that he's done that you think is bad?*". This will probably be a shock to the average NPC who was just reciting his program. From here, you put your opponent on the defensive, where he needs to come up with reasons to justify why he thinks Hitler is bad. And each one of these reasons that they may come up with is much easier to reject than the original abstract statement.
For example, here are some of the things they may say and my quick responses.
Note that this is just what I'd say to normies, not necessarily a full argument.
1) **He's a dictator**: and? why do you assume democracy is better? Germany had been a democracy for only 15 years before he took power, and even that was established by force. Democracy was never a part of Germany's history, so I don't see what your point is.
2) **He attacked Poland, he started a war, he wanted to grab other people's land**: that was just normal at the time and for all of history. At the time of WWII England had conquered a quarter of the entire planet, France almost another quarter, and even America had colonies. I don't see what's special about Germany wanting to do the exact same thing.
3) **He killed a bazillion people**: Hitler didn't kill a single person before the war started. Look it up, that's just a historical fact. He just rounded up communist terrorists, most of which happened to be Jews, who were given prison sentences. But nobody was killed during peacetime. As for the war, blaming a single man for all the deaths of a war is asinine, it's like saying that George Bush killed 1 million people in Iraq.
4) **He's racist**: if being racist is loving your own race and wanting White people to prosper, then yes. I don't see what's wrong with that.
5) **He started WWII**. No, that is just not true. It's Britain and France that declared war on Germany starting a massive conflict. Germany just had a border dispute with Poland, it was Britain and France that turned it into a world war. I assure you that nobody who likes Hitler today thinks he's personally responsible for WWII.
And at some point they'll mention the final boss... the HOLOCAUST!
The moment in which they start talking about the holocaust or the persecutions of the Jews, you need to switch gear and go on the offensive.
Think about it for a moment. Saying that "*the holocaust didn't happen*" makes good memes and shocking content, but it will never convince a normie. You can argue until you're blue in the face that gas chambers didn't really exist, or that it's not possible to cremate 900k corpses in open air pyres, or that there should have been bones remaining... Believe me, I've tried. The normie will simply move the goalpost. They will ultimately say that it was evil to put the Jews in concentration camps at all, and they'll feel that they won the argument. Even if you can prove to them that the holocaust didn't happen, at most you can achieve a draw. Stop being on the defensive and go on the attack!
At the first mention of the holocaust / the Jews, the first thing that should come out of your mouth is: **The Jews tried to genocide all European people like they've done in Russia and Ukraine. Hitler tried to defend Europe from the Bolsheviks.** In a war people die. The Jews were murdering German soldiers behind the frontlines, which is a war crime by the way, so retaliation was the only option they had. What were the Germans supposed to do? Letting themselves be killed by the Jews? The Jews are mass murdering Palestinian children right now, but you somehow think that 80 years ago they were peaceful and innocent? The Jews always whine about their victims not letting themselves be killed.
That's it. It's pointless to try to argue that the holocaust didn't happen. Some Jews were killed by the SS, this is undeniable. Instead of trying to argue that we were peaceful and innocent, you must drive home the point that Jews are not the victims. They whine and claim to be victims, but they are not the victims.
If you were to engage a literal Jew, that's what you should tell him: *your entire culture and religion is about seeing yourself as the victims, but you were not a victim in WWII. You were not the victims, you were the perpetrators.*
I assure you that this will go under the normie's or the Jew's skin, and they will remember it forever. You break their worldview. Their worldview includes people who inexplicably deny the holocaust, the "holocaust deniers" are just part of their plan. Hearing the perspective that Jews are not the victims is what can damage their programming. We have a real chance now with what's happening in Palestine to make normies see the Jews for who they really are. The children of the devil.
This was about right to repair and choice of brands, but I'm 100% convinced the same strategies can be used to spread antisemitism to normies as well.
Some key points would be to look back to our own path of noticing, because at some point we were all in a public school, first grade and got brainwashed by the holohoax bullshit right. Then from there we've started noticing. Our own paths have been slow, so we gotta be patient with the normies.
I get the temptation to convince as many people as possible as fast as possible, because the jewish parasite is like a raging fire which nobody seems to care about. As frustrating as it is, it's important to play smart and let the normie wake up themselves.
Rossman had a good example with adblockers, if you tell someone that they need to block ads they won't listen to you because they don't understand why, or they think it might be hard to do that, now you'll have to explain and the normie might side with the advertisers anyway, keeping his unusable device bloated with ads.
A better approach would be to look at the unusable device, then carefully ask "lot's of ads you got there, my device doesn't have any". Now the person is interested, because they see the ads you mentioned and is remind about how annoying they are. The normie will now ask you more about how they can get rid of the ads, now you show them by installing ublock origin. The normie will then see the ads go away and all the other benefits of having no ads. You become a person they look up to, someone who knows how to make their life better.
Now imagine if we apply that to antisemitism. Boycotting jew owned products for instance is another area we can improve. We can't just tell normies "don't buy that", because in most cases they buy that because that is all they know. Instead tell them about the better non jew owned alternative. Take them there to show them.
It is true that you should not attack someone personally or even be too aggressive, but you do need to state facts with courage and openness.
Failed a few times myself, and that was entirely my own fault, because later on I did manage to convince those same people to block ads. They didn't understand how easy it was, or they fear changes.
Facts and courage are also very important. If the normie is upset already, maybe wait until they calm down.
"NooOoOoOoOoOoOOoo! You anti-Semite racist nazi skinhead stormfaggot! Deys Muhs cHoSeNs pEoPlEs!!!!" - u/-f-b-i-
i was so distraught when i figured out he's likely a jew. i mean, he already has a video on how racismus is the bad, but i took him for a generic mulatto normie guy for the longest time.