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1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)2 children
I was in the dealership and say the Toyota Land Cruiser had come down in price considerably, I assumed to compete with the Ford Bronco since at its previous $100k pricetag, it was just a luxury toy.
The fucking thing has a 4-cylinder engine in it. FOUR. And no, there is no option for even a V6.
1 year ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)1 child
> The fucking thing has a 4-cylinder engine in it. FOUR.
I was going to mention that is the primary reason. The diehard fans, who are the only clowns willing to drop $100k on a Toyota, don't want it. There really isn't a secondary market for Land Cruiser, either. It's for those diehards and only them. Toyota fucked themselves.
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I really wanted one. I think it *looks* absolutely fantastic. I also seem to be in the minority that I think the 5th gen 4Runner is catastrophically hideous. 6th gen has a lot less of a Hulk Hogan Fu Manchu mustache look to the front.
Now it seems the Sequoia is the 'I have money to burn' toy. Looked great inside, the pricetag was a joke though.
I think Toyota is fucking up. They built an EV nobody has ever heard of and nobody wants, with some faggot-ass name like BZK62, like the retarded shit they sell in China. The Corolla is now more like a hatchback, but maybe that'll work, to set it apart from the Camry. I have a 2019 RAV4 and the thing has been pretty great except the software in it was hot garbage and their fucking app that was required to use several functions didn't even work (but it's since been removed because it was so bad).
>2019 RAV4 and the thing has been pretty great except the software in it was hot garbage
Wife has a 2021 Highlander Hybrid, and the software glitched to give her a no seatbelt warning for all seats in the vehicle when no one was there. She took it to the dealership, and they couldn't fix the software glitch, but they "were able to disable the audible alarm - that'll be $150." Fortunately she was on speaker, so I took the phone and said:
"Wait, you didn't solve the problem, you just disabled the audible alarm? So you're doing the mechanic's equivalent of pulling the Check Engine bulb and you want to charge us for it?"
Long story short they dropped the charge. They didn't even disable the alarm that comes up on the HUD showing unbelted occupants.
I totally agree that Toyota is fucking up. Hopefully they turn it around and don't go full John Deere "ride the rep" til the brand is unrecognizable.
the problem is federal regs on fleet mileage and emissions, and how dealerships mitigate them. it effectively makes a quota-cap system for new car sales -- they must be EVs or extremely high margin. and since few people actually want EVs, the dealerships have to raise prices on non-EVs to rebalance sales.
small coupes and sedans practically disappeared from lots. the margins are very low, and unless they're an EV, they count against the fleet emissions. so they intentionally supply very few, and they sell out very quickly. it's why you can go to a lot and see literally zero sedans and coupes.
because they can only sell so many non-EVs due to the quota-cap system, they pretty much only stock high margin vehicles. that's why there are so many $60-100k vehicles on these lots.
like even pick a jeep... the jeep website shows tons of options that are $40-60k, but if you go to a dealership, the only way you're getting anywhere below $60k is buying used... or an EV. this is because the new vehicles count against their quota-cap, but the EVs and the used vehicles don't.
The fucking thing has a 4-cylinder engine in it. FOUR. And no, there is no option for even a V6.
I was going to mention that is the primary reason. The diehard fans, who are the only clowns willing to drop $100k on a Toyota, don't want it. There really isn't a secondary market for Land Cruiser, either. It's for those diehards and only them. Toyota fucked themselves.
Now it seems the Sequoia is the 'I have money to burn' toy. Looked great inside, the pricetag was a joke though.
I think Toyota is fucking up. They built an EV nobody has ever heard of and nobody wants, with some faggot-ass name like BZK62, like the retarded shit they sell in China. The Corolla is now more like a hatchback, but maybe that'll work, to set it apart from the Camry. I have a 2019 RAV4 and the thing has been pretty great except the software in it was hot garbage and their fucking app that was required to use several functions didn't even work (but it's since been removed because it was so bad).
Wife has a 2021 Highlander Hybrid, and the software glitched to give her a no seatbelt warning for all seats in the vehicle when no one was there. She took it to the dealership, and they couldn't fix the software glitch, but they "were able to disable the audible alarm - that'll be $150." Fortunately she was on speaker, so I took the phone and said:
"Wait, you didn't solve the problem, you just disabled the audible alarm? So you're doing the mechanic's equivalent of pulling the Check Engine bulb and you want to charge us for it?"
Long story short they dropped the charge. They didn't even disable the alarm that comes up on the HUD showing unbelted occupants.
I totally agree that Toyota is fucking up. Hopefully they turn it around and don't go full John Deere "ride the rep" til the brand is unrecognizable.
small coupes and sedans practically disappeared from lots. the margins are very low, and unless they're an EV, they count against the fleet emissions. so they intentionally supply very few, and they sell out very quickly. it's why you can go to a lot and see literally zero sedans and coupes.
because they can only sell so many non-EVs due to the quota-cap system, they pretty much only stock high margin vehicles. that's why there are so many $60-100k vehicles on these lots.
like even pick a jeep... the jeep website shows tons of options that are $40-60k, but if you go to a dealership, the only way you're getting anywhere below $60k is buying used... or an EV. this is because the new vehicles count against their quota-cap, but the EVs and the used vehicles don't.