I made a new account (weimersolutions / heagleart) and realized just how curated my old feed was because I must have blocked more than half of you guys. And seeing conpro in it's raw state, I noticed that tge specific users that I blocked myself from seeing are still here and just as active or more than the "real conpro" as I used to view it.
Here's the thing, these users' posts seem to get traction when it is something that aligns with our values, but will then mix it with things that definitely do not such as abortion, the complete destruction of women's sovereignty, or genocidal suggestions. I call this "conflation propaganda" as it tries to conflate certain defamatory values with our reasonable values through malicious actor among us.
Also I dont think the main target is the new users to scare them off, while that may be part of it, I think that we are the main targets of this propaganda. A user makes some reposts from a few months prior, and then he's "in" and ready to begin directly twisting our values. Often it is a pagan trying to delegitimize the moral superiority of Christianity or a mgtow meninist blaming white women (specifically white) while disregarding their jewish brainwashing. I think it's an attempt to lure our younger members off the conpro path (of learning the jq and embracing independence over consumerism) with an edgy, "hot take" that more aligns with the kike paradigm.
What the fuck? Like seriously what the fuck? It's one thing to use dog attacks based on breed as an analogy for violent crime rates based on race, but to advocate the abuse of innocent animals is too far. I get that it's a metaphor for niggers but pitbulls are 1000x better than niggers in every way.
Here you inject appeal to emotion by assuming it's "abuse", and bringing up "innocent" like it's a matter of justice. Guilt is irrelevant, and to insist on guilt is a matter of individual selection - aka you do *nothing* unless a pitbull mauls someone. What if 10% of pitbulls would maul a human at some point? How many human lives are you willing to sacrifice for your ideas of morality?
> but pitbulls are 1000x better than niggers in every way.
Unless the niggers are the ones owning the pitbulls. They are like loose cannons. My Golden Retriever is a sweetheart and never does anything against any human, no matter the age. If she runs towards a child, I don't have to hope that she won't maul him. With a pitbull, just out of bad luck, a lack of you holding the leash, an error in your judgement might be the brutal death of a child.
Pitbulls are genetically predisposed to be aggressive and violent, and even if you train them well, they can still "unexpectedly" snap.
However, a Pitbull puppy raised right and trained well can be an excellent dog even for families with children. That dog isnt going to "snap".
I agree that the breed is more aggressive and dangerous but their overrepresentation in attacks is moreso caused by nurture than nature. Solve dogfighting (make it illegal for niggers to own dogs) and the problem will be solved.
Maybe. But we are talking about ~60% of all dog attacks caused by pitbulls. I don't know how prevalent dogfighting is which causes them to behave that way, and how often it's the fault of the dog's owner, but I would NEVER pick a pitpull as a family dog - because what if it's actually mostly genetic? I mean we are talking about a *massive* statistical extreme. And if I see a pitpull, I'll be very aware of potential conflict.
> and the problem will be solved.
And what if it isn't, and just gets *slightly* better?
I know firsthand how it is at shelters. It's not just most of the dogs are pitbulls. It's not 60% or 80% or 90%, it is 100%. All of the dogs are pitbulls. And they are all dangerous. Sometimes, very very rarely, we will see another victimized dog like a boxer or doberman. Same story with them, these breeds get bad reputations because they are abused and then rehomed without considering the consequences.
Im positive that pitbulls are great dogs because Ive met many great pitbulls. If you get one as a puppy and train it right than he'll be a great dog and you'll have nothing to worry about. In fact I dont think any dog trained right from puppyhood is going to snap and attack a child unless it was demented somehow.
The nature of the breed, like how naturally aggressive they are, plays a tiny role compared to the nuture of the dog, like whether it was raised responsibly as a companion or grew up fighting for survival.
And what if they were abandoned because these people misjudged these dogs and their abilities to train them? They probably thought "there is only one race!", went for a "cute" shark-eyed pitbull, and later found out how uncontrollable, unpredictable and dangerous they are.
My father got a German Sheppard, and thought he'll handle it, but it turned out that dog was an idiot barking at everything, and maybe would have bitten people if it got out, and he was too old, sick and lazy to train it. So the dog became quite bothersome. There are people who'd abandon such types of dogs.
And I assume with pitbulls it's even worse in general. A Golden Retriever is naturally a smart and peaceful dog in comparison - they are easier to train and even if you do nothing, they turn out fine.
> In fact I dont think any dog trained right from puppyhood is going to snap and attack a child unless it was demented somehow.
But why are almost all dogs that were abandoned pitbulls then? Sure it's not just families rotating them in and out of there. How did they get there in the first place?
Btw, I've seen a video of 2 pitbulls teaming up to literally kill and eat a man alive, in some place in the village, tearing his flesh apart. That wasn't about "survival" - one probably just snapped, and the other just joined in for fun.
> The nature of the breed, like how naturally aggressive they are, plays a tiny role compared to the nuture of the dog
That is factually false. A chihuahua will NEVER be a good protective dog due to its size. My Golden Retriever is easily scared, also bad as a protective dog - although she likes to kill critters, even pigeons and is crazy around cats - her hunting instinct shows. Our German Sheppard was unpredictable. Training can change their natural behaviors to some degree, but you can't do large changes. See it mathematically: You can change a 4 to 2-6, and a 8 to 6-10. The more you intend to change, the harder it gets and more effort and time it takes.
My Golden Retriever started aggression at 1/10, so there was nothing to do to fix it. If anything I tried to make her more aggressive, but she doesn't even want to play pulling a rug. But I could pet her all day and she'd like it. A pitbull that starts at 8/10 will be damn hard to train - sure, it takes some level of bad luck for something bad to happen, but the conditions for something bad to happen *are there*.
Our G. Sheppard was probably around 6/10, and that was too much of a risk, not even close.