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As for your claims...
Why do you not take the extra minute to validate your information and avoid embarrassing yourself? Is it out of malice or is it incompetence?
> Avicenna
Muslim[1].
> Ibn al-Haytham
Muslim[2].
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[1]
> Avicenna was first schooled in the Quran and literature, and by the age of 10, he had memorized the entire Quran.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna
[2]
> Alhazen was a Muslim and most sources report that he was a Sunni and a follower of the Ash'ari school.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Haytham
All of which weren’t invented by Muslims; that’s the pattern.
>Why do you not take the extra minute to validate your information and avoid embarrassing yourself?
The goddamned irony.
>[wikipedia links]
That’s cute. Did you miss the part where ***they were all excommunicated for blasphemy*** for daring to claim that the universe is ordered and operates according to quantifiable rules, as opposed to the whims of Allah? They weren’t Muslim. “Memorizing a book” does not make you a Muslim, dipshit.
- There's no such faggy thing as excommunication in Islam.
- If you cared to read instead of spreading your venom, you'd see that if you MEMORIZE 604 pages of the Quran, you'd be a devout Muslim, and he certainly was. Read his biography that's avail for all ignoramuses to grow.
FYI:
1. *Algorithm*:
- Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi (Persian Muslim)
- 9th century, Baghdad, Iraq
- Al-Khwarizmi's book "Al-Kitab al-mukhtasar fi hisab al-jabr wa'l-muqabala" introduced algebraic methods and Arabic numerals.
2. *Algebra*:
- Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi (Persian Muslim)
- 9th century, Baghdad, Iraq
- Al-Khwarizmi's book "Al-Kitab al-mukhtasar fi hisab al-jabr wa'l-muqabala" established algebra as a distinct mathematical discipline.
3. *Alchemy*:
- Ancient Greek roots: Empedocles (Pagan) and Aristotle (Pagan)
- Islamic Golden Age: Jabir ibn Hayyan (Persian Muslim), known as Geber
- 8th century, Baghdad, Iraq
- Jabir ibn Hayyan developed alchemical theories and experimental methods.
4. *Altitude* (concept):
- Ancient Greek roots: Eratosthenes (Pagan)
- Islamic Golden Age: Al-Biruni (Persian Muslim)
- 11th century, Central Asia
- Al-Biruni measured Earth's radius and developed trigonometric methods for calculating altitude.
Other notable contributors:
- Al-Kindi (Persian Muslim): Contributed to algebra, cryptography, and optics.
- Ibn Sina (Persian Muslim): Made significant contributions to medicine, philosophy, and mathematics.
- Ibn Rushd (Arab Muslim): Influenced European thought on philosophy, medicine, and astronomy.
**Avicenna!** He denied Allah’s omniscience, claiming his knowledge was only of the universal principles of the universe, not the daily events of our lives. For this, he was accused of [blasphemy](https://archive.is/OQFr2) by Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, Abu al-Ghazali, and others. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**
**Averroes!** He was accused of blasphemy, persecuted, his books were [burned](http://web.archive.org/web/20241120181300/https://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/10093/3/Religious_dissension_al_Andalus.pdf), and he was [banished](https://archive.is/2uZdm) to Marrakesh. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**
**Al-Razi!** He denied the world was created from nothing, that Faith is superior to Reason, that Muhammad told only the truth, and disavowed the utility of revealed religions in general. He also [called](https://archive.is/GjrhP#selection-1211.915-1211.999) the Quran “a collection of absurd fables.” He was accused of apostasy. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**
**Ibn al-Haytham!** Formulated an early version of the scientific method, stating that every hypothesis must be supported by empirical data and experiments, not only by holy texts. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**
**Al-Sarakhsi!** A philosopher who studied the Greeks and dared to apply rationality to the study of the holy books. He was executed in 899 AD for apostasy. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**
**Al-Farabi!** Another philosopher who denied resurrection and thought reason was superior to faith. He was accused of apostasy. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**
As for your claims,
Diophantus beat al-Khwarizmi by 600 years. In addition to admitting that Greeks did it first, Jabir ibn Hayyan *isn’t even recognized as having ever lived at all.* Even if he did, whether he was formally Muslim or an explicitly non-Muslim client of someone else is still unknown. And you even fucking admitted that Eratosthenes beat Al-Biruni by centuries. Why bring that shit up? Al-Kindi? You mean the guy who expounded on earlier Greek works in optics? And who said the Quran was wrong about the nature of the universe?
# THERE WAS NO ISLAMIC GOLDEN AGE. Islam is axiomatically antithetical to scientific endeavor.
Averroes: Yeah, he got persecuted and his books were burned, but that was mostly about politics, not him outright denying Islam. He still called himself a Muslim, despite the heat.
Al-Razi: You claim he denied creation from nothing and trashed the Quran. Sure, he was skeptical, but he still identified as a Muslim. His critiques were part of a bigger philosophical convo.
Ibn al-Haytham: You think he ditched religious texts for science? Not really. He focused on observation and experiments but still worked within Islamic thought.
Al-Sarakhsi: Saying he was executed for apostasy? Where's the proof? Plenty of scholars from that era explored rational ideas without getting killed for it.
Al-Farabi: You say he denied resurrection and was accused of apostasy? He definitely pushed boundaries but tried to reconcile those ideas with Islam.
And about the "Islamic Golden Age": it was a legit time for breakthroughs in science, math, and philosophy. Think Al-Khwarizmi and Ibn al-Haytham -- huge contributions that can't just be brushed aside.
So yeah, these guys challenged norms but also added a ton to science, the intellectual scene and Islamic thought. Let's not just slap labels on them or ignore their impact.
# Trannies aren’t real.
If this is the best you can do, no wonder dune coons have never actually invented anything ever since (or during, because it didn’t happen).