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posted 1 year ago by MLJFireDragon747 on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +35Score on mirror )
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TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
Thank you for posting obvious lies. You were the impetus for me finally taking the time to find hard citations for these statements to add to my book.

**Avicenna!** He denied Allah’s omniscience, claiming his knowledge was only of the universal principles of the universe, not the daily events of our lives. For this, he was accused of [blasphemy](https://archive.is/OQFr2) by Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, Abu al-Ghazali, and others. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**

**Averroes!** He was accused of blasphemy, persecuted, his books were [burned](http://web.archive.org/web/20241120181300/https://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/10093/3/Religious_dissension_al_Andalus.pdf), and he was [banished](https://archive.is/2uZdm) to Marrakesh. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**

**Al-Razi!** He denied the world was created from nothing, that Faith is superior to Reason, that Muhammad told only the truth, and disavowed the utility of revealed religions in general. He also [called](https://archive.is/GjrhP#selection-1211.915-1211.999) the Quran “a collection of absurd fables.” He was accused of apostasy. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**

**Ibn al-Haytham!** Formulated an early version of the scientific method, stating that every hypothesis must be supported by empirical data and experiments, not only by holy texts. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**

**Al-Sarakhsi!** A philosopher who studied the Greeks and dared to apply rationality to the study of the holy books. He was executed in 899 AD for apostasy. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**

**Al-Farabi!** Another philosopher who denied resurrection and thought reason was superior to faith. He was accused of apostasy. **According to Islam’s rules, he was not a Muslim.**

As for your claims,

Diophantus beat al-Khwarizmi by 600 years. In addition to admitting that Greeks did it first, Jabir ibn Hayyan *isn’t even recognized as having ever lived at all.* Even if he did, whether he was formally Muslim or an explicitly non-Muslim client of someone else is still unknown. And you even fucking admitted that Eratosthenes beat Al-Biruni by centuries. Why bring that shit up? Al-Kindi? You mean the guy who expounded on earlier Greek works in optics? And who said the Quran was wrong about the nature of the universe?

# THERE WAS NO ISLAMIC GOLDEN AGE. Islam is axiomatically antithetical to scientific endeavor.
deleteme1234 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Avicenna: You say he denied God's omniscience? No. He actually said God knows both universal stuff and specific events. His views were way more nuanced than just blasphemy.

Averroes: Yeah, he got persecuted and his books were burned, but that was mostly about politics, not him outright denying Islam. He still called himself a Muslim, despite the heat.

Al-Razi: You claim he denied creation from nothing and trashed the Quran. Sure, he was skeptical, but he still identified as a Muslim. His critiques were part of a bigger philosophical convo.

Ibn al-Haytham: You think he ditched religious texts for science? Not really. He focused on observation and experiments but still worked within Islamic thought.

Al-Sarakhsi: Saying he was executed for apostasy? Where's the proof? Plenty of scholars from that era explored rational ideas without getting killed for it.

Al-Farabi: You say he denied resurrection and was accused of apostasy? He definitely pushed boundaries but tried to reconcile those ideas with Islam.

And about the "Islamic Golden Age": it was a legit time for breakthroughs in science, math, and philosophy. Think Al-Khwarizmi and Ibn al-Haytham -- huge contributions that can't just be brushed aside.

So yeah, these guys challenged norms but also added a ton to science, the intellectual scene and Islamic thought. Let's not just slap labels on them or ignore their impact.
TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
> he still identified as

# Trannies aren’t real.

If this is the best you can do, no wonder dune coons have never actually invented anything ever since (or during, because it didn’t happen).
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