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Article by James B. Jordan, against the common futurist view:

https://lastdayspast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/The-Future-of-Israel-Re-examined-James-B.-Jordan.pdf

Relevant as this is one of the key points that has to be broken in modern evangelicals that think they have to somehow support Ashkenazi's in hopes they will one day all convert, the Bible simply is not addressing them in this passage.

Guys like Doug Wilson end up going to the futurist view even though he knows better (he has read plenty of James B. Jordan), because he has jewish family members.

Jordan has warned the plot to get Christians to support the State of Israel over their Palestinian Chrisitan brothers and treat jews as some central part of Christianity is a Satanic delusion, audio clip:

https://files.catbox.moe/heswyj.mp4

Joel Webbon (Right Response Ministries) with Andrew Isker also explain this in Webbon's series on the JQ. So it's good the alternative view is spreading because it's almost certainly the correct one. No one would suggest the Samaritans had any relevance to any New Testament future prophecies, yet Ashkenazi's corrupted bloodline is even less relevant.

This is not to suggest the Khazarian theory, Ashkenazi's do have some bronze age Levantine genetics (mixed with other groups), and do likely contain curses that came with continued Talmudism (and their parasitical evolutionary group strategy), but there are no pure-blooded Israelites on this planet with any claim to OT covenant promises that were all made null and void with 70AD, including Romans 11 that was fulfilled probably late 60's AD.
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I have never found the preterist view very convincing but after skimming over Jordan's explanation, it seems like he has some points worth considering. Prophecy is a particularly tricky subject/genre because you first have to figure out what it means and then you have to figure out how to apply it (the who, what, when, where, and how). I'm glad he's clear on the fact that modern Jews do not worship the God of the Old testament. That always seems to trip up dispies.

As a side note (since you mentioned him) Doug Wilson has always struck me as someone who is a pied piper who uses clever wordsmithing to lead devotees toward whatever "brand" he is building.

The indomitable Dalrock was a lucid genius when it came to helping men apply red pill theory within a Christian context and pointed out many of Wilson's theological sleight of hands.

Ever since then I have been very skeptical of Wilson and within the last year I was watching one of his video essays (I think it's one where he tries to spoof the *scretape letters*) where he flips the script on the JQ by saying that "you focus too much on the propaganda that jews are behind x,y,&z. You can't judge them based off of that. You should judge them based only off the *good* stuff they do". The problem I have with that is from a "Christian" perspective, that is *exactly* what is already happening. I literally had to unlearn all of the philosemetic propaganda put out by (mostly but not always) dispensational Christians saying things like "when Truman acknowledged the existence of modern Israel, God blessed the U.S. with unprecedented prosperity".

Also, he's so fat that even if he was the big-brained genius his disciples think he is, I still wouldn't take him seriously.
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