Honest question. Would the acceleration from Harris be a good thing? How would Trump giving the goyim a break effect the future?
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1 year ago6 points(+0/-0/+6Score on mirror)1 child
One other thing worth mentioning is that a Kamala victory will result in conservatives spending the next four years claiming that if only Trump had won a second term America would have been saved, and that the focus should be on winning the next election in 2028.
But if Trump wins, he spends the next four years fighting to maintain the status quo and disappointing a large chunk of his base. Sure, there will be plenty of Republicans who will just be happy that the red team won and couldn't care less about tangible results. However, there will also be plenty of disillusioned, normie Whites who will finally come to the realization that the solution to our problems will never be found at the ballot box.
1 year ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)1 child
>he spends the next four years fighting to maintain the status quo and disappointing a large chunk of his base
he did that already. All the people who were going to leave him have. Everybody who was going to leave him over his duplicity have already done so. The scamdemic, the nigger riots, his complete abdication over the stolen election, everybody with a functional brain has seen everything and acted accordingly. I cannot even *begin* to describe to you the sheer disparity in support for him that I've seen around, even just compared to 2020 much less 2016. I think I've seen maybe 3 trump signs or flags around my entire town thus far, and last time you couldn't go a day without seeing multiple. The only people left supporting him is all of the clueless boomers and stupid normies who will *never* stop supporting him no matter what he says or does.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
>All the people who were going to leave him have. Everybody who was going to leave him over his duplicity have already done so.
For the most part, I agree. However, plenty of White zoomers were not following politics during his first term and will become radicalized when Trump inevitably disappoints. It's hard to overstate the importance of this demographic moving forward. It's not like redpilling a bunch of boomers who will be dead in the next few years. These are young men/women who will be active in politics for the next +50 years and shattering any illusions they have about democracy is extremely beneficial to our cause.
Also, it's worth remembering that the redpilling process is not identical for everyone. You're right that the majority of people who are going to be awoken by the disappointment of a Zion Don administration have already been redpilled, but things are worse now than they were in 2016-2020. The cost of living has gone up, third world invaders have overrun countless more small towns, and Whites have experienced another 4+ years of marginalization as a result of DEI policies. Watching Trump spend another four years pandering to jews and niggers is going to hit differently for some people in 2025 than it did in 2020. I'm not saying it's going to redpill Republicans on mass, but even if the disappointment of a 2nd Trump term redpills just another 50,000 middle aged White men in America, that's a welcome development for the pro-White cause.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
>However, plenty of White zoomers were not following politics during his first term and will become radicalized when Trump inevitably disappoints.
True. There's something to be said for that. But how will their 'illusion' of democracy be shattered if their guy gets elected? Was the liberal's illusion of "democracy" shattered in 2020 like so many people's on the right was?
>The cost of living has gone up, third world invaders have overrun countless more small towns, and Whites have experienced another 4+ years of marginalization as a result of DEI policies.
What's the one and only thing trump is good at doing? Getting the economy under control. If he gets installed, gas prices will go down, inflation will (maybe) go down, he might cut taxes again, and people's economic lives will otherwise improve. And they'll sure as heck be willing to overlook the rest of what you mentioned as long as it's not *personally* affecting their wallet, that's how selfish and self-centered they are. They won't be as predisposed to care about the nonwhite invasion as long as the bread and circuses are rolling along at full tilt. Normies need to be separated from their bread and circuses in order to start caring about things, and trump won't serve to accomplish that.
>but even if the disappointment of a 2nd Trump term redpills just another 50,000 middle aged White men in America
One thing you have to understand is that we simply do not have *time* to be taking things the slow way. The cultural and social degeneration of our people, *especially* the youth, through social media and the entertainment media *alone* is reaching near-irreparable levels. We don't have *time* to patiently wait out another trump presidency on the *off chance* that 50,000 more White people are perfectly redpilled while another *generation* of kids is corrupted and destroyed by the jewish media. While 30-40 thousand more White women are raped each year. While countless other Whites are killed or permanently injured by niggers and other nonwhites each year. On top of all things, this problem alone compounds and continues to get worse with each passing year. We don't have *time* to do our own "long march through the institutions" so to speak, because we have a very *finite* time limit until we pass the point of no return. I still think we have a ways to go until we reach that point, but it is indeed coming.
Quantity has a quality of it's own. We need more people dissatisfied with the status quo and potentially willing to change it more than anything. I would rather have 100,000 White people who are fed up with government overreach and completely unaware of the jewish problem than 50,000 White people who are fed up with the government *and* completely aware of the jewish problem. Because when you get right down to it, as long as the jews control the media a vast majority of the population will *never* be awoken. No matter how many normies are redpilled online. Therefore their hegemony over our systems of power needs to be toppled first. The only thing that can benefit us in the long run is destabilization, and serious destabilization (like federal gun confiscations) at that. trump will not provide that; as ironic as it sounds he is a *stabilizing* force no matter how much the liberals may shriek about it. The destabilization will still continue unimpeded more or less, all he will do is blind a significant chunk of the right people to it.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
>But how will their 'illusion' of democracy be shattered if their guy gets elected?
In the sense that "if Trump couldn't deliver real reforms, then who will?". We will see every single federal institution overreach in an effort to thwart Trump's milquetoast agenda. It's hard for someone of reasonable intelligence to watch that dynamic persist for multiple years and then come to the conclusion that the solution to this problem will be found in the 2028 Republican primary.
>What's the one and only thing trump is good at doing? Getting the economy under control. If he gets installed, gas prices will go down, inflation will (maybe) go down, he might cut taxes again, and people's economic lives will otherwise improve.
Yea, that's a good point. Although there is a decent chance that war with Iran breaks out during a second Trump term, which means there will be no relief on gas prices. Also, unless we are operating under the mistaken belief that Trump will deport massive numbers of third world invaders, there will be little relief in terms of the cost of living - at least in most regions of the country. Housing prices will remain high, the job market will still be oversaturated with cheap foreign laborers, and even things like used automobiles will be expensive to acquire due to the increased demand. I'm sure there will be tax breaks, but we all know that establishment Republicans will ensure multinational corporations are prioritized while the rest of the populace is left to fight over the table scraps.
>Quantity has a quality of it's own. We need more people dissatisfied with the status quo and potentially willing to change it more than anything"
Everything that you said in the final paragraph is reasonable and I agree with most of your points. However, I disagree that federal gun seizures would have the destabilizing effect that you seem to believe. There might be a handful of civilians who go down shooting, but on the whole, I think conservatives would meekly comply. On the state level you might have some dissent, but nothing that would destabilize the federal government. Same thing with the criminalization of "hate speech".
I would much rather see our guys remain armed to the teeth and continuing to redpill normies while we progress towards the collapse of the U.S dollar, which is where I believe the real catalyst for change exists and subsequently revolution would begin. It's not going to occur as a result of conservatives pushing back to government overreach, no matter what the regime does or takes from them.
>It's hard for someone of reasonable intelligence to watch that dynamic persist for multiple years and then come to the conclusion that the solution to this problem will be found in the 2028 Republican primary.
The only people 'of reasonable intelligence' who would see this now would be people who were under the age of 18 or so in 2020. That's not a significant portion of the population. Yes its important but does that comparatively minor benefit alone offset all the consequences?
>Although there is a decent chance that war with Iran breaks out during a second Trump term, which means there will be no relief on gas prices.
I personally think the odds are about 60/40 of trump getting installed specifically *because* the kikes want to increase military tensions in the middle east and the only possible way to get young White men to sign up for the military would be under some rah-rah reagan-esque "patriot" like trump.
>there will be little relief in terms of the cost of living
If taxes are cut significantly that would go a *long* way towards relieving the cost of living alone, especially if he cuts them more than the first time. Additionally, if trump were to focus on oil/energy independence like he did the first time, oil prices coming from the middle east wouldn't matter so much.
>There might be a handful of civilians who go down shooting, but on the whole, I think conservatives would meekly comply
Even if 10 percent of gun owners refused to comply that's over *eight million people* in the US. We don't *need* half of all gun owners to take up arms against the feds. A single digit percentage would be enough.
> while we progress towards the collapse of the U.S dollar, which is where I believe the real catalyst for change exists
Of course. You know, the jews are actively working towards this right now. That's the point of all the inflation after all. They know that only in the steepest of calamities will they be able to institute the New World Order that they want to institute; will they get the people to beg for the chains of their own slavery. So they are actively working towards that. It'll also be the best time for /ourguys/ to be able to wrest power from the kikes. A very fine line between total victory and total defeat. But everything plays into this goal. Less inflation and a more comfortable economic life for the average joe does not further this as much (unless they do a covid reboot under trump again).
But if Trump wins, he spends the next four years fighting to maintain the status quo and disappointing a large chunk of his base. Sure, there will be plenty of Republicans who will just be happy that the red team won and couldn't care less about tangible results. However, there will also be plenty of disillusioned, normie Whites who will finally come to the realization that the solution to our problems will never be found at the ballot box.
he did that already. All the people who were going to leave him have. Everybody who was going to leave him over his duplicity have already done so. The scamdemic, the nigger riots, his complete abdication over the stolen election, everybody with a functional brain has seen everything and acted accordingly. I cannot even *begin* to describe to you the sheer disparity in support for him that I've seen around, even just compared to 2020 much less 2016. I think I've seen maybe 3 trump signs or flags around my entire town thus far, and last time you couldn't go a day without seeing multiple. The only people left supporting him is all of the clueless boomers and stupid normies who will *never* stop supporting him no matter what he says or does.
For the most part, I agree. However, plenty of White zoomers were not following politics during his first term and will become radicalized when Trump inevitably disappoints. It's hard to overstate the importance of this demographic moving forward. It's not like redpilling a bunch of boomers who will be dead in the next few years. These are young men/women who will be active in politics for the next +50 years and shattering any illusions they have about democracy is extremely beneficial to our cause.
Also, it's worth remembering that the redpilling process is not identical for everyone. You're right that the majority of people who are going to be awoken by the disappointment of a Zion Don administration have already been redpilled, but things are worse now than they were in 2016-2020. The cost of living has gone up, third world invaders have overrun countless more small towns, and Whites have experienced another 4+ years of marginalization as a result of DEI policies. Watching Trump spend another four years pandering to jews and niggers is going to hit differently for some people in 2025 than it did in 2020. I'm not saying it's going to redpill Republicans on mass, but even if the disappointment of a 2nd Trump term redpills just another 50,000 middle aged White men in America, that's a welcome development for the pro-White cause.
True. There's something to be said for that. But how will their 'illusion' of democracy be shattered if their guy gets elected? Was the liberal's illusion of "democracy" shattered in 2020 like so many people's on the right was?
>The cost of living has gone up, third world invaders have overrun countless more small towns, and Whites have experienced another 4+ years of marginalization as a result of DEI policies.
What's the one and only thing trump is good at doing? Getting the economy under control. If he gets installed, gas prices will go down, inflation will (maybe) go down, he might cut taxes again, and people's economic lives will otherwise improve. And they'll sure as heck be willing to overlook the rest of what you mentioned as long as it's not *personally* affecting their wallet, that's how selfish and self-centered they are. They won't be as predisposed to care about the nonwhite invasion as long as the bread and circuses are rolling along at full tilt. Normies need to be separated from their bread and circuses in order to start caring about things, and trump won't serve to accomplish that.
>but even if the disappointment of a 2nd Trump term redpills just another 50,000 middle aged White men in America
One thing you have to understand is that we simply do not have *time* to be taking things the slow way. The cultural and social degeneration of our people, *especially* the youth, through social media and the entertainment media *alone* is reaching near-irreparable levels. We don't have *time* to patiently wait out another trump presidency on the *off chance* that 50,000 more White people are perfectly redpilled while another *generation* of kids is corrupted and destroyed by the jewish media. While 30-40 thousand more White women are raped each year. While countless other Whites are killed or permanently injured by niggers and other nonwhites each year. On top of all things, this problem alone compounds and continues to get worse with each passing year. We don't have *time* to do our own "long march through the institutions" so to speak, because we have a very *finite* time limit until we pass the point of no return. I still think we have a ways to go until we reach that point, but it is indeed coming.
Quantity has a quality of it's own. We need more people dissatisfied with the status quo and potentially willing to change it more than anything. I would rather have 100,000 White people who are fed up with government overreach and completely unaware of the jewish problem than 50,000 White people who are fed up with the government *and* completely aware of the jewish problem. Because when you get right down to it, as long as the jews control the media a vast majority of the population will *never* be awoken. No matter how many normies are redpilled online. Therefore their hegemony over our systems of power needs to be toppled first. The only thing that can benefit us in the long run is destabilization, and serious destabilization (like federal gun confiscations) at that. trump will not provide that; as ironic as it sounds he is a *stabilizing* force no matter how much the liberals may shriek about it. The destabilization will still continue unimpeded more or less, all he will do is blind a significant chunk of the right people to it.
In the sense that "if Trump couldn't deliver real reforms, then who will?". We will see every single federal institution overreach in an effort to thwart Trump's milquetoast agenda. It's hard for someone of reasonable intelligence to watch that dynamic persist for multiple years and then come to the conclusion that the solution to this problem will be found in the 2028 Republican primary.
>What's the one and only thing trump is good at doing? Getting the economy under control. If he gets installed, gas prices will go down, inflation will (maybe) go down, he might cut taxes again, and people's economic lives will otherwise improve.
Yea, that's a good point. Although there is a decent chance that war with Iran breaks out during a second Trump term, which means there will be no relief on gas prices. Also, unless we are operating under the mistaken belief that Trump will deport massive numbers of third world invaders, there will be little relief in terms of the cost of living - at least in most regions of the country. Housing prices will remain high, the job market will still be oversaturated with cheap foreign laborers, and even things like used automobiles will be expensive to acquire due to the increased demand. I'm sure there will be tax breaks, but we all know that establishment Republicans will ensure multinational corporations are prioritized while the rest of the populace is left to fight over the table scraps.
>Quantity has a quality of it's own. We need more people dissatisfied with the status quo and potentially willing to change it more than anything"
Everything that you said in the final paragraph is reasonable and I agree with most of your points. However, I disagree that federal gun seizures would have the destabilizing effect that you seem to believe. There might be a handful of civilians who go down shooting, but on the whole, I think conservatives would meekly comply. On the state level you might have some dissent, but nothing that would destabilize the federal government. Same thing with the criminalization of "hate speech".
I would much rather see our guys remain armed to the teeth and continuing to redpill normies while we progress towards the collapse of the U.S dollar, which is where I believe the real catalyst for change exists and subsequently revolution would begin. It's not going to occur as a result of conservatives pushing back to government overreach, no matter what the regime does or takes from them.
The only people 'of reasonable intelligence' who would see this now would be people who were under the age of 18 or so in 2020. That's not a significant portion of the population. Yes its important but does that comparatively minor benefit alone offset all the consequences?
>Although there is a decent chance that war with Iran breaks out during a second Trump term, which means there will be no relief on gas prices.
I personally think the odds are about 60/40 of trump getting installed specifically *because* the kikes want to increase military tensions in the middle east and the only possible way to get young White men to sign up for the military would be under some rah-rah reagan-esque "patriot" like trump.
>there will be little relief in terms of the cost of living
If taxes are cut significantly that would go a *long* way towards relieving the cost of living alone, especially if he cuts them more than the first time. Additionally, if trump were to focus on oil/energy independence like he did the first time, oil prices coming from the middle east wouldn't matter so much.
>There might be a handful of civilians who go down shooting, but on the whole, I think conservatives would meekly comply
Even if 10 percent of gun owners refused to comply that's over *eight million people* in the US. We don't *need* half of all gun owners to take up arms against the feds. A single digit percentage would be enough.
> while we progress towards the collapse of the U.S dollar, which is where I believe the real catalyst for change exists
Of course. You know, the jews are actively working towards this right now. That's the point of all the inflation after all. They know that only in the steepest of calamities will they be able to institute the New World Order that they want to institute; will they get the people to beg for the chains of their own slavery. So they are actively working towards that. It'll also be the best time for /ourguys/ to be able to wrest power from the kikes. A very fine line between total victory and total defeat. But everything plays into this goal. Less inflation and a more comfortable economic life for the average joe does not further this as much (unless they do a covid reboot under trump again).