Trinity is a Heresy - Christ and The Father are One
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The jews aren't God's people - never were. There were people in Judea that were not of Judah, those are Edomites, the people we call jews today.
From Josephus book 13: "Hyrcanus took also Dora, and Marissa, cities of Idumea; and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that countrey, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews. And they were so desirous of living in the countrey of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision"
These guys just look at the oldest manuscripts we have, take historical writers into account, and it turns out Scripture is one consistent story about the same people - Whites. You might like "100 Proofs the Israelites were White"
From Josephus book 13: "Hyrcanus took also Dora, and Marissa, cities of Idumea; and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that countrey, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews. And they were so desirous of living in the countrey of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision"
These guys just look at the oldest manuscripts we have, take historical writers into account, and it turns out Scripture is one consistent story about the same people - Whites. You might like "100 Proofs the Israelites were White"
Um... Christ and the Father are one in essence that is literally the whole point of the Trinity. This video just seems like a Word Concept Fallacy like most heresies.
Trinity doctrine is man-made and not found in the Bible.
In the OT, it's quite clear that there are multiple gods, only one of whom (YHWH) the Israelites were commanded to worship. Most of the problems God has with the Israelites is they keep worshiping the other gods.
In the NT, the first century Christians were living in a pagan world full of gods, and Jesus was one of them, except he would've been interpreted (at first) as a demi-god. It was only after Jesus performed his miracles that showed he had more power than any god in the pantheon, and especially his resurrection, that people began to realize he was in fact the OT God YHWH. The thing is, Jesus constantly referred to his God, which to those people at that time, sounded like polytheism. In John 17, he clearly shows that the one-ness between himself and the Father are the same as the one-ness he intends to experience between himself and his disciples. And in Revelation 3:21, it's clear that he intends for his followers to sit on the throne of God and become exactly like God in every way possible. In fact, the Orthodox church still teaches this doctrine and they call it "theosis." The NT also refers to the Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost but it wasn't until much later that Christians began seeing that being as another God.
The doctrine of the Trinity appears around the 4th Century, and the early Christian fathers did not recognize any such doctrine or idea for centuries after Christ died.
What is absurd about the doctrine of the Trinity is that it is a logical contradiction, and yet we are commanded to "know God" so that we can experience eternal life. It is impossible to "know" a logical contradiction, so if the Trinity is true doctrine, eternal life is impossible, according to Jesus.
In the OT, it's quite clear that there are multiple gods, only one of whom (YHWH) the Israelites were commanded to worship. Most of the problems God has with the Israelites is they keep worshiping the other gods.
In the NT, the first century Christians were living in a pagan world full of gods, and Jesus was one of them, except he would've been interpreted (at first) as a demi-god. It was only after Jesus performed his miracles that showed he had more power than any god in the pantheon, and especially his resurrection, that people began to realize he was in fact the OT God YHWH. The thing is, Jesus constantly referred to his God, which to those people at that time, sounded like polytheism. In John 17, he clearly shows that the one-ness between himself and the Father are the same as the one-ness he intends to experience between himself and his disciples. And in Revelation 3:21, it's clear that he intends for his followers to sit on the throne of God and become exactly like God in every way possible. In fact, the Orthodox church still teaches this doctrine and they call it "theosis." The NT also refers to the Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost but it wasn't until much later that Christians began seeing that being as another God.
The doctrine of the Trinity appears around the 4th Century, and the early Christian fathers did not recognize any such doctrine or idea for centuries after Christ died.
What is absurd about the doctrine of the Trinity is that it is a logical contradiction, and yet we are commanded to "know God" so that we can experience eternal life. It is impossible to "know" a logical contradiction, so if the Trinity is true doctrine, eternal life is impossible, according to Jesus.
The Father and Son being One does not negate the concept of a Trinity. In fact, the entire point of the trinity is that three distinct persons exist in a single Divine Nature.
Are you forgetting about all the ways Yahweh interacted with His people, the same people in the New and Old Testament, in the rest of Scripture? That should negate trinity right there.
He interacted via Angel, 99% if the time. Most of the time God is referred to as interacting with Men in the OT, its via angels.
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Of course Christ is Yahweh. The church has never said otherwise. None of the churches. This has never happened. Church dogma is not that Christ is a different being from the Godhead, but rather one of 3 attributes of the Godhead.
Want an analogy? You're also triune. You have a body, analogous to the Son. You have a mind, analogous to the father. You have a spirit, analogous to the Holy Spirit.
The body is tangible and what moves you about in day to day life, the Son is God in physical form, God's chosen body. Your mind is your decision maker and is the impetus for you to conceive ideas to put into action, it is effectively the head of your whole. It's the same for God. The father is the creator, and what thinks and makes things happen. Your soul is the breath of life and what gives you consciousness, feelings, emotions, etc. What is the holy spirit? The breath of life in all things. The holy spirit is passive but powerful. It's intangible, invisible, and powerful. Like your soul.
God is triune as are you, being made in the image of God. You and the creator of this video have no idea how the Godhead and the Trinity work.
Also it's just... common sense? Every single thing thats alive can be divided up into 3 aspects that make up a "trinity" of the mind, body, and soul. Going even further, do some research on Platos tripartite soul. People figured this out before the Bible was even put into written word. We are made in God's image, we are tripartite by nature, ergo...