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posted 1 year ago by Conspirologist on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +48Score on mirror )
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devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 9 points (+0 / -0 / +9Score on mirror ) 3 children
I don't really buy it. Diesels were able to run okayish on cooking oil until the invention of common rail diesel engines that took diesel cars by storm in the late 90s. 80 years after he died. You'd think they would remove this ability right after he died if they had killed him to protect the gas industry.

The reason it never caught on was because regardless of system, vegetable oil will eventually get gummed up and start to create sludge. It doesn't combust well. Take a lighter to canola oil and witness absolutely nothing happen. The average flashpoint of vegetable oil is around ±300°. You can probably guess the issues this would create long term. Even if the combustion is done through compression instead of sparkplugs, it still doesn't burn well.

Another point: he modified his engine to run on peanut oil in 1900. He invented it in 1893. Why would it have taken them so damned long to kill a guy who wasn't making any effort to hide from them anyways?

Plus I don't think he ever intended his engine to run on only cooking oil. He likely knew it was inferior. What mattered was that it *could* run on cooking oil, even if not as well, and this was mainly for impoverished farmers to fuel their vehicles with a fuel they had in abundance.

If anyone murdered him it was probably the German government, not the oil industry (actually the oil industry got a metric fuck load of profit from his engine). Why? He had planned on proposing a deal with the Royal Navy to use diesel engines in their submarines. Precisely one year before ww1. He believed in the British cause, he was an enemy of the German government. He was a big enough believer in the British cause that some have suggested that his death was entirely a ruse by him and the British government to escape to Canada to avoid *being assassinated* by the German government.
Brannvesen on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
(((They))) managed to successfully subvert America in that sense. Diesel engines have evolved and are decades ahead in Europe. Vegetable oils HVO100, biolgas, CNG, and all sorts of fuels are burned. Truck engines from Volvo and Scania comes with 780HP straight out of factory and they'll tune them up to 1000 if you want.

Not even all the environmentalist bullshit managed to stop the diesel engine in Europe, modern day diesel engines burns so clean that there's no need for filters or complex systems. Adblue is being phased out but in America it seems to just be introduced. That shit was a major cause of failures with crappy NOx sensors and constant temperature regulation which drained the battery.
Fudgiethewhale on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 1 child
If I’m not mistaken, wouldn’t diesel be *more* environmentally friendly considering it doesn’t need to be as refined as other fuels (regular, plus, premium)?

Not to mention all the other factors that would include less complex engines which means lower manufacturing costs and cheaper repairs.
Brannvesen on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror )
It absolutely is, but truth is that today, most pollution isn't even from engine emissions but rather from the tires. EU countries is once again decades ahead here with practically all two or three axled trailers having rear wheel steering.

This reduces wear a lot when turning. Same thing with semi trucks and lorries, anything with two or three axles has rear steering and even hydraulic lift for the rear axles, meaning less wheels touch the road when driving unloaded.

Then there's the obvious one, if a single bus can replace 50 car trips, it doesn't really matter if the bus pollute 5-6 times more than one regular car, there's still a huge reduction in air pollution as well as improved traffic flow.

Things that breaks due to (((complexity))) is a huge source of pollution. And that goes beyond air pollution. Lot's of ground water pollution and other fuckery.
KingSweyn on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
>vegetable oil will eventually get gummed up and start to create sludge

This is easily solved with two tanks and some conscientiousness. By running petrodiesel (or even more lubricating, biodiesel) during start and cooldown periods, you can run veggie oil for the bulk of your travel.

Post-2008 diesels are a lot more annoying and inflexible when it comes to fuel and maintenance - old busses, you can filter used engine oil and put it in your gas tank.
HerrBBQ on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Thanks for this. Filing this theory amongst the numerous unfounded "I don't trust ZOG therefore this unimportant event was actually important or this long-accepted and logical explanation is actually a lie to hide the truth from us". Like come on guys. Not literally everything is part of a conspiracy.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Exactly. Why would they even kill him? His engine brought them *a lot* of profit. He introduced a new fuel burning engine to 100s of new niches that couldn't be filled with a steam turbine, steam piston (reciprocating engine), or gasoline 4 stroke engine. It was inherently more stable than a boiler-fired engine and produced more work than a gasoline engine. They made bank of of Rudolf's engine and they still do to this day.

Steam produces a lot more work output than gasoline (or diesels) (which is why nuclear power is the most efficient energy solution), but it also has a tendency to fucking explode in traditional boiler systems... I've seen steam leaks and steam explosions before and it's not fun, no sir. Having such a system is inherently dangerous. Diesel solved the problem of outputting work and torque superior to gasoline while having a stable engine to do it. Note: I'm not referring to a home boiler here, which were and still are mostly safe, I'm referring to propulsion boilers that have always been prone to disastrous issues. I've been working with boilers, specifically marine boilers, since I left high school. They are incredibly volatile machines. There's a reason the steam car never really made it off the ground. Diesel solved the issue. Diesel made the oil industry more money by solving the issue.

When the diesel engine was applied to trucks and tractors, it opened up the oil industry to an entirely new market. When it was applied to regular cars, it opened it up even further. When diesel started being applied to trains and marine propulsion, they didn't lose anything from it because they still guzzle gas.

It's infinitely more likely that he was killed by the German government, or even that his death was a cover up, than it is that the oil industry killed him off.

PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
It's like the myth of that dude's "water powered car" and the narrative that he was assassinated.

A) He "invented" the car like eight years before he died.

B) He never did fuck all to actually try to corner any market for said car (mostly because it was a sham). At no point was he ever 'about' to change the market. He essentially only did it for attention.

C) The car was not new technology. It was a simple electrolysis pyrolysis loop system. Old technology that wasn't a secret and is essentially why it was a sham.

D) The patents weren't covered up and revealed it was a sham.

E) The only singular witness to his death was his brother who also was in on the scam.

If anyone killed him it was the investors whose money he stole. There can be no such thing as a water powered car as the term is conventionally understood. He built a *hydrogen* powered car. The only energy output came from combusting hydrogen. It just carried on board the system to electrolyze the hydrogen from the water which is stupid and inefficient and why the car was dumb... But a "hydrogen powered car" doesn't sound unique and interesting at all. "Water powered" was the scam to pretend it was some world changing technology.

To make this abundantly clear, if he simply put the electrolysis system in his garage and filled a tank with the gas, then plugged the air tank into the car, it would've worked exactly the same, only without the cool drama of showing him pouring water into the tank.

Actually that system would work better. His dumb car was only burning the hydrogen/oxygen gas mix. 90% of the weight of water is the oxygen. You don't need to carry oxygen, the atmosphere provides it for you. So a pure hydrogen car would've been enormously lighter and thus more efficient.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Also tied into this is the claim that I've seen that "big oil" killed off the steam car for ICE cars.

Uhhh... no. That's not how that played out. First off, boilers drink fuel like a horse drinks water, they consume way more fuel than ICEs. I know from experience. They would have no reason to kill this off from a profit standpoint.

No, it's more like people didn't want their car to fucking explode. Marine propulsion boilers, at least, have a team of engineers constantly supervising them and standing watch in the engine rooms to make sure that they work. Train boilers also have a team of engineers constantly working with then.

What does a boiler on your car have? You, and only you. You would essentially have to be a boiler tech for this type of car to even be remotely safe as anything other than an occasional drive and, even then, you can't exactly check the boiler or its components *while* you're driving it. If you don't know jack shit about how the innards of an ICE car works, it just breaks. Don't know shit about how a boiler works and neglect maintenance? You, the guy across the street from you, your family, and your neighbors dog die in a boiler explosion whenever it fails to fire after turning it on. Either that or you have a volatile 2 ton ticking bomb in your garage where you somehow have to snuff out the fuel source to the engine to make sure it doesn't... fucking explode.

Losing fire in a boiler and low steam are bad news bears. Ive had it happen before. Don't play with boilers. It's understandable why people didn't want that in their fucking car.
kd5ywa on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 2 children
I'd rather just pump the stuff directly from the ground that is 100% renewable, despite what that jewish demon Rockefeller claimed.
Brannvesen on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
Spoke to a normie about oil, they were 100% convinced that oil is gonna run out soon, called me stupid for not buying an EV. I said if oil runs out, where are you gonna get the plastics for your EV and the electricity, which mostly comes from burning oil and plastics. 🤡🌎

Back in the old days car interiors were made out of fine polished wood and metal, only cheap budget cars used plastic interiors. Today it's all fake leather, fake wood and fake metals, which is made from low quality recycled plastics. Modern cars really sucks in quality.
PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Even *if* it's renewable on human timescales, which has almost no evidence either directly or indirectly, that doesn't at all mean it can keep up with current demand. If it could, then the whole planet would've drowned in oil during the *millions* of years it was supposedly being geologically created with nobody to use it.

Since that didn't happen it means that it's created so slowly that yes, it will run out.

The belief that it's an infinite free resource comes across as nothing except copium. You have absolutely no reason to actually believe that, and even if you do believe it with all your heart it changes utterly nothing.

And not like any single one of you saying this shit have even the slightest background in any relevant field to really understand the process and speak to it on a technical level.
systemthrowaway on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
My question is how have we not already run out?
PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Because we've created technology to go find deeper and deeper wells and tap them.

In the early days of oil production, wells were shallow and easily tapped. Some places the oil actually was seeping up onto the surface. All that shit is long-gone. The fact that we have to drill so deep and so heavy suggests that even if abiotic oil is real, it's clearly *not* replenishing at rates of consumption. If it wasn't replenishing that fast when there were literally only 25% as many people on the planet a hundred years ago, then it certainly isn't now that we have 4 billion pajeets and chinks burning it all for fun.

The cheapest, easiest source of oil is drilling on land. If oil were so rapidly renewable they wouldn't be faffing around with dangerous and expensive mobile offshore rigs.

The entire 'abiotic oil' shit came from one exhausted well in one place one time filling up with more oil. There's two explanations, one is that oil from an unknown deposit seeped into the void, the second is that oil magically sprouts out of the mantle infinitely.

There's **some** evidence suggesting that there's at least "an" abiotic source of petrochemicals, but from my understanding, this only is creating short-chain hydrocarbons. We don't want short-chain hydrocarbons. We want to big long stuff because that's where your fuel comes from. As far as synthesis of crude oil in the mantle is concerned, there's basically nothing except one guy in Russia 30 years ago with his theory, and a bunch of people falling for hopium/copium because they really really really really hope it's true, for reasons I don't quite understand, except I dunno, feeling guilty?

Either way, like I said, if abiotic oil were a real thing, it's not like any normal person has any capability to tap into it, so does it really matter if it is or is not? This is basically Bertrand's Teapot.
systemthrowaway on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Still, we've already been doing that exponentially for decades. I guess it's a big planet.
deleted 1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Brannvesen on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
It's not, but if there's ever an oil shortage caused by war or jews, it's beneficial to have alternatives available.
KyleIsThisTall on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
1913, you say?
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Petroleum is so ridiculously cheap and easy to use that using anything else for fuel is absurd.

We should be growing pastures to raise animals and then using the animal fats for our food. Growing plants for their oil or sugar content is ridiculous.
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