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1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
Exactly. Why would they even kill him? His engine brought them *a lot* of profit. He introduced a new fuel burning engine to 100s of new niches that couldn't be filled with a steam turbine, steam piston (reciprocating engine), or gasoline 4 stroke engine. It was inherently more stable than a boiler-fired engine and produced more work than a gasoline engine. They made bank of of Rudolf's engine and they still do to this day.
Steam produces a lot more work output than gasoline (or diesels) (which is why nuclear power is the most efficient energy solution), but it also has a tendency to fucking explode in traditional boiler systems... I've seen steam leaks and steam explosions before and it's not fun, no sir. Having such a system is inherently dangerous. Diesel solved the problem of outputting work and torque superior to gasoline while having a stable engine to do it. Note: I'm not referring to a home boiler here, which were and still are mostly safe, I'm referring to propulsion boilers that have always been prone to disastrous issues. I've been working with boilers, specifically marine boilers, since I left high school. They are incredibly volatile machines. There's a reason the steam car never really made it off the ground. Diesel solved the issue. Diesel made the oil industry more money by solving the issue.
When the diesel engine was applied to trucks and tractors, it opened up the oil industry to an entirely new market. When it was applied to regular cars, it opened it up even further. When diesel started being applied to trains and marine propulsion, they didn't lose anything from it because they still guzzle gas.
It's infinitely more likely that he was killed by the German government, or even that his death was a cover up, than it is that the oil industry killed him off.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
It's like the myth of that dude's "water powered car" and the narrative that he was assassinated.
A) He "invented" the car like eight years before he died.
B) He never did fuck all to actually try to corner any market for said car (mostly because it was a sham). At no point was he ever 'about' to change the market. He essentially only did it for attention.
C) The car was not new technology. It was a simple electrolysis pyrolysis loop system. Old technology that wasn't a secret and is essentially why it was a sham.
D) The patents weren't covered up and revealed it was a sham.
E) The only singular witness to his death was his brother who also was in on the scam.
If anyone killed him it was the investors whose money he stole. There can be no such thing as a water powered car as the term is conventionally understood. He built a *hydrogen* powered car. The only energy output came from combusting hydrogen. It just carried on board the system to electrolyze the hydrogen from the water which is stupid and inefficient and why the car was dumb... But a "hydrogen powered car" doesn't sound unique and interesting at all. "Water powered" was the scam to pretend it was some world changing technology.
To make this abundantly clear, if he simply put the electrolysis system in his garage and filled a tank with the gas, then plugged the air tank into the car, it would've worked exactly the same, only without the cool drama of showing him pouring water into the tank.
Actually that system would work better. His dumb car was only burning the hydrogen/oxygen gas mix. 90% of the weight of water is the oxygen. You don't need to carry oxygen, the atmosphere provides it for you. So a pure hydrogen car would've been enormously lighter and thus more efficient.
Also tied into this is the claim that I've seen that "big oil" killed off the steam car for ICE cars.
Uhhh... no. That's not how that played out. First off, boilers drink fuel like a horse drinks water, they consume way more fuel than ICEs. I know from experience. They would have no reason to kill this off from a profit standpoint.
No, it's more like people didn't want their car to fucking explode. Marine propulsion boilers, at least, have a team of engineers constantly supervising them and standing watch in the engine rooms to make sure that they work. Train boilers also have a team of engineers constantly working with then.
What does a boiler on your car have? You, and only you. You would essentially have to be a boiler tech for this type of car to even be remotely safe as anything other than an occasional drive and, even then, you can't exactly check the boiler or its components *while* you're driving it. If you don't know jack shit about how the innards of an ICE car works, it just breaks. Don't know shit about how a boiler works and neglect maintenance? You, the guy across the street from you, your family, and your neighbors dog die in a boiler explosion whenever it fails to fire after turning it on. Either that or you have a volatile 2 ton ticking bomb in your garage where you somehow have to snuff out the fuel source to the engine to make sure it doesn't... fucking explode.
Losing fire in a boiler and low steam are bad news bears. Ive had it happen before. Don't play with boilers. It's understandable why people didn't want that in their fucking car.
Steam produces a lot more work output than gasoline (or diesels) (which is why nuclear power is the most efficient energy solution), but it also has a tendency to fucking explode in traditional boiler systems... I've seen steam leaks and steam explosions before and it's not fun, no sir. Having such a system is inherently dangerous. Diesel solved the problem of outputting work and torque superior to gasoline while having a stable engine to do it. Note: I'm not referring to a home boiler here, which were and still are mostly safe, I'm referring to propulsion boilers that have always been prone to disastrous issues. I've been working with boilers, specifically marine boilers, since I left high school. They are incredibly volatile machines. There's a reason the steam car never really made it off the ground. Diesel solved the issue. Diesel made the oil industry more money by solving the issue.
When the diesel engine was applied to trucks and tractors, it opened up the oil industry to an entirely new market. When it was applied to regular cars, it opened it up even further. When diesel started being applied to trains and marine propulsion, they didn't lose anything from it because they still guzzle gas.
It's infinitely more likely that he was killed by the German government, or even that his death was a cover up, than it is that the oil industry killed him off.
A) He "invented" the car like eight years before he died.
B) He never did fuck all to actually try to corner any market for said car (mostly because it was a sham). At no point was he ever 'about' to change the market. He essentially only did it for attention.
C) The car was not new technology. It was a simple electrolysis pyrolysis loop system. Old technology that wasn't a secret and is essentially why it was a sham.
D) The patents weren't covered up and revealed it was a sham.
E) The only singular witness to his death was his brother who also was in on the scam.
If anyone killed him it was the investors whose money he stole. There can be no such thing as a water powered car as the term is conventionally understood. He built a *hydrogen* powered car. The only energy output came from combusting hydrogen. It just carried on board the system to electrolyze the hydrogen from the water which is stupid and inefficient and why the car was dumb... But a "hydrogen powered car" doesn't sound unique and interesting at all. "Water powered" was the scam to pretend it was some world changing technology.
To make this abundantly clear, if he simply put the electrolysis system in his garage and filled a tank with the gas, then plugged the air tank into the car, it would've worked exactly the same, only without the cool drama of showing him pouring water into the tank.
Actually that system would work better. His dumb car was only burning the hydrogen/oxygen gas mix. 90% of the weight of water is the oxygen. You don't need to carry oxygen, the atmosphere provides it for you. So a pure hydrogen car would've been enormously lighter and thus more efficient.
Uhhh... no. That's not how that played out. First off, boilers drink fuel like a horse drinks water, they consume way more fuel than ICEs. I know from experience. They would have no reason to kill this off from a profit standpoint.
No, it's more like people didn't want their car to fucking explode. Marine propulsion boilers, at least, have a team of engineers constantly supervising them and standing watch in the engine rooms to make sure that they work. Train boilers also have a team of engineers constantly working with then.
What does a boiler on your car have? You, and only you. You would essentially have to be a boiler tech for this type of car to even be remotely safe as anything other than an occasional drive and, even then, you can't exactly check the boiler or its components *while* you're driving it. If you don't know jack shit about how the innards of an ICE car works, it just breaks. Don't know shit about how a boiler works and neglect maintenance? You, the guy across the street from you, your family, and your neighbors dog die in a boiler explosion whenever it fails to fire after turning it on. Either that or you have a volatile 2 ton ticking bomb in your garage where you somehow have to snuff out the fuel source to the engine to make sure it doesn't... fucking explode.
Losing fire in a boiler and low steam are bad news bears. Ive had it happen before. Don't play with boilers. It's understandable why people didn't want that in their fucking car.