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JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
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>the excesses of "far-right ideologies"
Pointing and singling out these "excesses" as definitive are nearly akin to a strawman. Yes, there are those who place blood over God. They are incorrect in doing so. However, there are excesses everywhere one may look. Last time I attended a NO Mass a woman was teaching during it.
The Pope is correct in his accusations against those who place blood or state above God, though his accusations could have been levied against the jews, instead of coming to the defense of the jewry in what you and online "summarizers" are referring to as a commendation of socialism in general.
Here's Mussolini saying that the state will not be against the Catholic Church; blood or state is not higher than God,
>The duty of the State does not consist in trying to create a new gospel or other dogmas, nor in overthrowing old gods in order to replace them with others called blood, race, nordicism, and the like. The Fascist State does not consider that its duty requires it to intervene in religious matters, and if does happen, then it is only when religion touches on the political or moral order of the State.
He essentially submitted spiritual all duty to the Church, but says that the state maintains the temporal duty of governance.
You're missing the whole point, though. In fact, you are validating the point we made in the podcast lol.
The point was that for a CATHOLIC ACTION GROUP we want CATHOLIC-FIRST people to be the leaders and core of the group.
And in our experience, we have had "Nazi-Catholics" attempt to be in the core of our group, and they always, ALWAYS turn it into a NAZI-FIRST GROUP.
And I wrote that article to actually show those people in my group the errors they were falling into and how it was turning our group into something other than a CATHOLIC-FIRST GROUP.
I was admittedly pretty gentle with these guys, who were my friends. Just like I said in the podcast, an article, I gave examples of how one can be a white nationalist, fascist, national socialist, etc. and moderate those ideologies to fit in-line with Catholic teaching.
You know what happened?
ALL. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Of my so-called "friends" got triggered and turned against me because I DARED to question the syncretization of their political views with Catholicism. They essentially kicked me out of the group I formed.
Why?
Because I merely criticized the non-Catholic parts of their favorite ideology and asked them to moderate those parts to keep the Catholic-first mission of the group.
I am fine with people being nazis, fascists, and white nationalists. But just call yourself that. I may disagree with a few things with you, but we can all cooperate when it comes to naming the Jew and fighting against the Judeo-Masonic Globohomo order.
But don't you DARE come into my CATHOLIC ACTION GROUP and call yourself "Catholic" and then turn my group into a Nazi group because you are Nazi-first and Catholic-second. If you try to do that, then you can stay FAR AWAY from my group because you're no more Catholic than Joe Biden.
Well the argument appeared to be that socialism, fascism, NS was un-Catholic, based on the Encyclicals presented, but this didn't seem to be the case when I read them and admittedly missed some parts. I still don't see how they could be used as a sweeping and absolute commendation of the ideologies unless I'm missing some context, but more of a warning to be sure *not* to fall into idolatry of blood.
I'm not even fascist or a nazi. Probably some sort of theocrat politically, and economically, something akin to whatever the Spartans and Apostles had going on.. Abolition of money, community shares according to requirement, glorification of virtue over wealth. Mix that together with the Catholic Church as the head of state, as long as it has an interest in maintaining the real diversity in the physical human nature, their cultures, heritages, traditions, etc. Right now it seems invested in flooding the nations that protected it for 2000 years with animalists and heathens from the far ends of the Earth.
Socialism was wholly condemned in other encyclicals by the Church because it deprives people of their natural right of private property (i.e. it's essentially a form of stealing, which goes against God's moral law). Parts of Fascism and NS were condemned by the encyclicals I pointed out to you. A Catholic must assent to stand with the Church and condemning the parts the Church condemns, or they are in dissent of the Church. And if they are part of the core of a Catholic Action Group, then that's a problem. Dissenters shouldn't be a core part of a Catholic Action Group. That's the whole argument right there.
I honestly don't have hostility towards Nazis and fascists, in general, who don't larp as being Catholics. I am much more concerned with the Jews, freemasons, and sodomites lol.
Pointing and singling out these "excesses" as definitive are nearly akin to a strawman. Yes, there are those who place blood over God. They are incorrect in doing so. However, there are excesses everywhere one may look. Last time I attended a NO Mass a woman was teaching during it.
The Pope is correct in his accusations against those who place blood or state above God, though his accusations could have been levied against the jews, instead of coming to the defense of the jewry in what you and online "summarizers" are referring to as a commendation of socialism in general.
Here's Mussolini saying that the state will not be against the Catholic Church; blood or state is not higher than God,
>The duty of the State does not consist in trying to create a new gospel or other dogmas, nor in overthrowing old gods in order to replace them with others called blood, race, nordicism, and the like. The Fascist State does not consider that its duty requires it to intervene in religious matters, and if does happen, then it is only when religion touches on the political or moral order of the State.
He essentially submitted spiritual all duty to the Church, but says that the state maintains the temporal duty of governance.
The point was that for a CATHOLIC ACTION GROUP we want CATHOLIC-FIRST people to be the leaders and core of the group.
And in our experience, we have had "Nazi-Catholics" attempt to be in the core of our group, and they always, ALWAYS turn it into a NAZI-FIRST GROUP.
And I wrote that article to actually show those people in my group the errors they were falling into and how it was turning our group into something other than a CATHOLIC-FIRST GROUP.
I was admittedly pretty gentle with these guys, who were my friends. Just like I said in the podcast, an article, I gave examples of how one can be a white nationalist, fascist, national socialist, etc. and moderate those ideologies to fit in-line with Catholic teaching.
You know what happened?
ALL. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Of my so-called "friends" got triggered and turned against me because I DARED to question the syncretization of their political views with Catholicism. They essentially kicked me out of the group I formed.
Why?
Because I merely criticized the non-Catholic parts of their favorite ideology and asked them to moderate those parts to keep the Catholic-first mission of the group.
I am fine with people being nazis, fascists, and white nationalists. But just call yourself that. I may disagree with a few things with you, but we can all cooperate when it comes to naming the Jew and fighting against the Judeo-Masonic Globohomo order.
But don't you DARE come into my CATHOLIC ACTION GROUP and call yourself "Catholic" and then turn my group into a Nazi group because you are Nazi-first and Catholic-second. If you try to do that, then you can stay FAR AWAY from my group because you're no more Catholic than Joe Biden.
I'm not even fascist or a nazi. Probably some sort of theocrat politically, and economically, something akin to whatever the Spartans and Apostles had going on.. Abolition of money, community shares according to requirement, glorification of virtue over wealth. Mix that together with the Catholic Church as the head of state, as long as it has an interest in maintaining the real diversity in the physical human nature, their cultures, heritages, traditions, etc. Right now it seems invested in flooding the nations that protected it for 2000 years with animalists and heathens from the far ends of the Earth.
I honestly don't have hostility towards Nazis and fascists, in general, who don't larp as being Catholics. I am much more concerned with the Jews, freemasons, and sodomites lol.