They can be genetic dead ends all they like. Didn’t even post anything about jews there. Women will continue being trash as long as the internet controls them, and the genetic dead ends in mgtow can enjoy their death cult. Imagine thinking blacks are people just because it’s easier than controlling your women.
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Jordan Petersen is an Israel shill who works for the Daily Wire. Everything else he is doing is in service to that. You'd probably get banned for discussing that on c/MGTOW though, even without a track record of posting here.
Those artificial womb threads don't seem to have any pro-natalism in them. There were some guys saying they didn't want kids though. Most of the discussion centered around power dynamics with nothing much at all said about the need for family.
>Whoever signs the gynocentric contract in these deeply feminist times is complicit in the destruction wrought upon millions of men
Marriages are getting better for men, not worse. The divorce rate peaked in the 70s or 80s. Men are paying less alimony and are getting better custody arrangements and so forth than we used to. It still favors women but actually by less now than it used to.
>Just take u/TheImpossible1 for instance and even u/DangZagnut. I’ve known these guys for over 5 years now — first, on Reddit and then GYOW forum, and then they are here on Scored expressing the same ideas I’ve always known them for believing.
I've known TheImp for a while. His lecturing everyone else about racism while calling for racial genocide against Palestinians is a recent development. I only vaguely remember Dang from reddit.
>He also says that we are in the business of producing sufficient levels of apathy in white people to allow the debauchery to go on and destroy more lives. If MGTOW is a Jewish ploy to weaken us, why then would they use it on themselves?
This is from the book's Amazon description, "Jewish MGTOW refers to Jewish Men Going Torah Observant Ways in marriage, family, and divorce.Jewish MGTOW recognizes the importance of marriage and relationships with women, unlike secular MGTOW.Jewish MGTOW rejects feminism and the gender hatred and gender wars feminism promotes."
In other words, it's a pro-natalist, pro-family book, nothing like the anti-natalist hedonism and seething hatred of women you'll find on MGTOW here.
Even though men pay less in alimony that burden shifted to child support. Child support increased to compensate for alimony. Add to that, other forms of extortion rose up such as affirmative action, welfare and quota hiring. That's on top of old social extortion such as making the men pay for everything. That's where you find divorces decreasing and not increasing. Women take away money from men without needing to marry and then divorce them.
But this still misses the point. The old adage in MGTOW is that men do not fear marriage, they fear divorce. We are against one-sided laws that ransack men. We argue for this ardently to the point we call divorcing men a form of rape. (Rape has the other definition of taking away something by force leaving the victim undignified; so it's not just us being edgy.)
So, I agree with you that MGTOW gets entangled in "seething hatred of women". They should know that the problem is in fact the system. Specifically democracy as it allows people to conquer institutions and laws by numbers. Female voters have outnumbered male voters since 1982 to be specific.
> I've known TheImp for a while. His lecturing everyone else about racism while calling for racial genocide against Palestinians is a recent development. I only vaguely remember Dang from reddit.
He's a retard. I'm imagining him to be an extremely obese neckbeard type of guy. He has hundreds of thousands of points.
I don't know why that Jewish book makes a distinction between Secular MGTOW and religious MGTOW. I think the distinction exists only in vernacular. I don't think they have ever formally divided members of the group in that manner.
His statements are rather evident in MGTOW circles. Yes, marriage and relationships with women are important. In fact, that's where the problem all begins. Patriarchy was definitely a reproductive strategy and not a social organization of men ruling over women. Patriarchy had tons and tons of times ruled in favor of women at the expense of men. Gynocentrism though is a social organization. He adds, "Jewish MGTOW rejects feminism and the gender hatred and gender wars feminism promotes." All of MGTOW does that. That's not unique to some Jewish MGTOWism.
To seal the deal, here's the plan from the [MGTOW manifesto](http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2001/02/mgtow-manifesto.html) that was published in 2001:
> The goal is to instill masculinity in men, femininity in women, and work toward limited government!
>
> By instilling masculinity in men, we make men self-reliant, proud, and independent.
>
> By instilling femininity in women, we make them nurturing, supporting, and responsible.
>
> By working for a limited government, we are working for freedom and justice.
>
> Women having "other qualities" is not interesting to men because we don't need them! Femininity will be the price women pay for enjoying masculinity in men!
>
> This is the aim of "Men Going Their Own Way".
We still fervently fight for that. Less government, more masculine men, and more feminine women, please! Enough of the woke feminist crap. That's still the message.
I haven't seen anything to indicate that child support is going up.
Affirmative action also isn't anything new. It's just more visible with modern culture churning out girl power sludge. If you look at where affirmative action has been most prolific, in colleges, it's not even that beneficial anymore. The value of degrees is going down while the cost is going up. This is especially true for the career fields women gravitate toward. Men can also marry women who work, even ones who are affirmative action hires.
> Specifically democracy as it allows people to conquer institutions and laws by numbers.
This kind of thinking is a problem with MGTOW types. You guys see a teeming mass of women as your biggest problem and are allergic to being critical of elites. They impose unpopular policies on the public all the time. Politics are elite driven.
>He's a retard. I'm imagining him to be an extremely obese neckbeard type of guy. He has hundreds of thousands of points.
That's dismissive. He's a genocidal Zionist who is only finger-wagging at MGTOW over racism for his own racial interest. He loves Israel, an extremely racist and "tradcucked" country, one of the worst in the world.
>MGTOW manifesto
You will be called a simp for posting that on MGTOW here. The users there trend more towards the "women are evil subhumans" world view.
I don't even know how to respond to you anymore. You realize I'm one of the biggest guys in MGTOW. I have close ties to mods there. I've made YouTube channels, supported many creators, and created many blogs. I've been in MGTOW for 7 years now, and I feel like I know it all.
Take for example my latest [discussion with u/flatty407](https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/17txfKfddJ/i-made-a-post-in-cmeta-requestin/c/4ZDsoYSe2xc). [He](https://communities.win/u/flatty407/) barely engages with the community and in this discussion he attempts to educate me on how to properly think and tried to oust me as nutjob. Needless to say, my statements in the end will give him a lengthy time thinking of the crap he seriously believes such as naive individualism (I'm torn between calling it edgy individualism and naive individualism; in both cases, people think they are free even in a cage because they choose to adorn its walls.)
> That's dismissive. He's a genocidal Zionist who is only finger-wagging at MGTOW over racism for his own racial interest
I don't know if I'm dismissive of him. I hate him; but Arabs are themselves Jews. Jews are strugglesome retards. They were in a civil war even as Rome was invading. This is why the Tribe of Aravs (as they are originally called) was at war with other tribes. This is also why there's a mountain named after Aravs. It's called Arafat. (This time they understood the spelling.) Avail Palestine, Jews takeover Israel. Avail Zionists, Jews still takeover Israel. US should pull out of that stupid war. If Israel is truly winning, why does it need help? This is a criminal racket now. In the end, the money lands in the pockets of wealthy bankers and contractors while lowly morons on both sides buy into nationalism of the war. As the old adage goes: "Nationality for the poor, and the nation for the rich."
> The users there trend more towards the "women are evil subhumans" world view.
You are including me in this, right? Maybe check out their posts. The largest guys in MGTOW are socialist (such as u/simpdestroyer and u/TigPlaze) and nationalist (such as me, and u/Impossible-Asset and plenty others).
> The users there trend more towards the "women are evil subhumans" world view
That's the worst they do when they enter their redpill rage. They use hurtful words. But check out this [thread](https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/17txaf8VuN/this-is-why-men-should-learn-to-/c) I recently posted to understand where much of that sentiment comes from. Needless to say, the sentiment is erroneous. Women are merely used as the face of the globohomozionist agenda because of the inherent vulnerability men have in facing up to women. But they eventually realize that's no where to go. This [post of mine](https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/17txaf9L7h/red-pill-culture-wars-is-a-trap/c) shows they follow the thread of dispossession and mayhem all the way to the top.
>I don't even know how to respond to you anymore. You realize I'm one of the biggest guys in MGTOW. I have close ties to mods there. I've made YouTube channels, supported many creators, and created many blogs. I've been in MGTOW for 7 years now, and I feel like I know it all.
Those artificial womb threads don't seem to have any pro-natalism in them. There were some guys saying they didn't want kids though. Most of the discussion centered around power dynamics with nothing much at all said about the need for family.
>Whoever signs the gynocentric contract in these deeply feminist times is complicit in the destruction wrought upon millions of men
Marriages are getting better for men, not worse. The divorce rate peaked in the 70s or 80s. Men are paying less alimony and are getting better custody arrangements and so forth than we used to. It still favors women but actually by less now than it used to.
>Just take u/TheImpossible1 for instance and even u/DangZagnut. I’ve known these guys for over 5 years now — first, on Reddit and then GYOW forum, and then they are here on Scored expressing the same ideas I’ve always known them for believing.
I've known TheImp for a while. His lecturing everyone else about racism while calling for racial genocide against Palestinians is a recent development. I only vaguely remember Dang from reddit.
>He also says that we are in the business of producing sufficient levels of apathy in white people to allow the debauchery to go on and destroy more lives. If MGTOW is a Jewish ploy to weaken us, why then would they use it on themselves?
This is from the book's Amazon description, "Jewish MGTOW refers to Jewish Men Going Torah Observant Ways in marriage, family, and divorce.Jewish MGTOW recognizes the importance of marriage and relationships with women, unlike secular MGTOW.Jewish MGTOW rejects feminism and the gender hatred and gender wars feminism promotes."
In other words, it's a pro-natalist, pro-family book, nothing like the anti-natalist hedonism and seething hatred of women you'll find on MGTOW here.
But this still misses the point. The old adage in MGTOW is that men do not fear marriage, they fear divorce. We are against one-sided laws that ransack men. We argue for this ardently to the point we call divorcing men a form of rape. (Rape has the other definition of taking away something by force leaving the victim undignified; so it's not just us being edgy.)
So, I agree with you that MGTOW gets entangled in "seething hatred of women". They should know that the problem is in fact the system. Specifically democracy as it allows people to conquer institutions and laws by numbers. Female voters have outnumbered male voters since 1982 to be specific.
> I've known TheImp for a while. His lecturing everyone else about racism while calling for racial genocide against Palestinians is a recent development. I only vaguely remember Dang from reddit.
He's a retard. I'm imagining him to be an extremely obese neckbeard type of guy. He has hundreds of thousands of points.
I don't know why that Jewish book makes a distinction between Secular MGTOW and religious MGTOW. I think the distinction exists only in vernacular. I don't think they have ever formally divided members of the group in that manner.
His statements are rather evident in MGTOW circles. Yes, marriage and relationships with women are important. In fact, that's where the problem all begins. Patriarchy was definitely a reproductive strategy and not a social organization of men ruling over women. Patriarchy had tons and tons of times ruled in favor of women at the expense of men. Gynocentrism though is a social organization. He adds, "Jewish MGTOW rejects feminism and the gender hatred and gender wars feminism promotes." All of MGTOW does that. That's not unique to some Jewish MGTOWism.
To seal the deal, here's the plan from the [MGTOW manifesto](http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2001/02/mgtow-manifesto.html) that was published in 2001:
> The goal is to instill masculinity in men, femininity in women, and work toward limited government!
>
> By instilling masculinity in men, we make men self-reliant, proud, and independent.
>
> By instilling femininity in women, we make them nurturing, supporting, and responsible.
>
> By working for a limited government, we are working for freedom and justice.
>
> Women having "other qualities" is not interesting to men because we don't need them! Femininity will be the price women pay for enjoying masculinity in men!
>
> This is the aim of "Men Going Their Own Way".
We still fervently fight for that. Less government, more masculine men, and more feminine women, please! Enough of the woke feminist crap. That's still the message.
Affirmative action also isn't anything new. It's just more visible with modern culture churning out girl power sludge. If you look at where affirmative action has been most prolific, in colleges, it's not even that beneficial anymore. The value of degrees is going down while the cost is going up. This is especially true for the career fields women gravitate toward. Men can also marry women who work, even ones who are affirmative action hires.
> Specifically democracy as it allows people to conquer institutions and laws by numbers.
This kind of thinking is a problem with MGTOW types. You guys see a teeming mass of women as your biggest problem and are allergic to being critical of elites. They impose unpopular policies on the public all the time. Politics are elite driven.
>He's a retard. I'm imagining him to be an extremely obese neckbeard type of guy. He has hundreds of thousands of points.
That's dismissive. He's a genocidal Zionist who is only finger-wagging at MGTOW over racism for his own racial interest. He loves Israel, an extremely racist and "tradcucked" country, one of the worst in the world.
>MGTOW manifesto
You will be called a simp for posting that on MGTOW here. The users there trend more towards the "women are evil subhumans" world view.
Take for example my latest [discussion with u/flatty407](https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/17txfKfddJ/i-made-a-post-in-cmeta-requestin/c/4ZDsoYSe2xc). [He](https://communities.win/u/flatty407/) barely engages with the community and in this discussion he attempts to educate me on how to properly think and tried to oust me as nutjob. Needless to say, my statements in the end will give him a lengthy time thinking of the crap he seriously believes such as naive individualism (I'm torn between calling it edgy individualism and naive individualism; in both cases, people think they are free even in a cage because they choose to adorn its walls.)
> That's dismissive. He's a genocidal Zionist who is only finger-wagging at MGTOW over racism for his own racial interest
I don't know if I'm dismissive of him. I hate him; but Arabs are themselves Jews. Jews are strugglesome retards. They were in a civil war even as Rome was invading. This is why the Tribe of Aravs (as they are originally called) was at war with other tribes. This is also why there's a mountain named after Aravs. It's called Arafat. (This time they understood the spelling.) Avail Palestine, Jews takeover Israel. Avail Zionists, Jews still takeover Israel. US should pull out of that stupid war. If Israel is truly winning, why does it need help? This is a criminal racket now. In the end, the money lands in the pockets of wealthy bankers and contractors while lowly morons on both sides buy into nationalism of the war. As the old adage goes: "Nationality for the poor, and the nation for the rich."
> The users there trend more towards the "women are evil subhumans" world view.
You are including me in this, right? Maybe check out their posts. The largest guys in MGTOW are socialist (such as u/simpdestroyer and u/TigPlaze) and nationalist (such as me, and u/Impossible-Asset and plenty others).
> The users there trend more towards the "women are evil subhumans" world view
That's the worst they do when they enter their redpill rage. They use hurtful words. But check out this [thread](https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/17txaf8VuN/this-is-why-men-should-learn-to-/c) I recently posted to understand where much of that sentiment comes from. Needless to say, the sentiment is erroneous. Women are merely used as the face of the globohomozionist agenda because of the inherent vulnerability men have in facing up to women. But they eventually realize that's no where to go. This [post of mine](https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/17txaf9L7h/red-pill-culture-wars-is-a-trap/c) shows they follow the thread of dispossession and mayhem all the way to the top.
That community just isn't what you want it to be.
Look at what's actually popular there.
https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/17txfJWxrd/we-dont-even-have-to-use-antisem/c
https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/17txfLpxIP/living-with-woman/c