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> This is how you get jewed, blind trust into a proprietary software you have no clue how it works.
You can open any portion of windows including the kernel in a free disassembler like idapro or ghidra and look at how it works. Projects like ReactOS have even reversed engineered back to source.
> A keyboard driver does not need cloud connectivity to work, only reason to have such connection is to steal your personal data.
Sure, so which specific driver shuts off your mouse when the internet goes down?
> This is all embedded into the driver or service itself and won't be a file named russianhackerkeylogger.exe hidden somewhere.
OK, embedded in to a function, sure, but you can still open up and show me that function and tell me how it works.
> The burden of evidence is not on me, we have consumer protection laws here in the developed word were companies must prove that they do not collect or sell customer data.
But you say you found a keylogger, so..... where? What PE file (that's a exe dll or sys file they are all the same type)
> Your attitude is what causes you to buy a (((smart))) home, controlled remotely by Alexa or Google,
I don't have a smart home. In fact Alexa and the like are not allowed in the house.
> the fact that they listen to everything you say isn't even your biggest worry. One day someone will report you for racism
This is different than the keylogger, stick to the original topic. I think you might just be a tinfoil hat guy who doesn't actually know how things work.
So.... yeah which PE file and what address does the keylogging occur at that you found?
> I don't have a smart home. In fact Alexa and the like are not allowed in the house.
And yet here you are, fanatically defending proprietary software as if every average Joe out there knows exactly how to reverse engineer anything and review millions of lines of code for built in stuff that fucks you the end user over in various ways.
I also find it hilarious that even tho you try to convince everyone that I'm wrong about how these things fuck over the end users in various ways, you don't even trust these devices yourself. You know that I'm right, otherwise you would have used these proprietary products yourself which you claim to have reverse engineered and found nothing bad in them. 🤡🌎
> fanatically defending proprietary software as if every average Joe out there knows exactly how to reverse engineer anything and review millions of lines of code for built in stuff that fucks you the end user over in various ways.
Nope, just asking you to show evidence. You can't just claim software does something therefore it does - It's not magic.
And again, projects have reversed windows to source - ReactOS. So if you need the hand holding you can look through that to find your imaginary keylogger.
> I also find it hilarious that even tho you try to convince everyone that I'm wrong about how these things
You just provide 0 evidence. It's literally all "well this over here" and tin foil hat shit. Put up or shut up. Could they add a keylogger? Sure. Do people reverse every single update coming from msft - yes. I personality know some who do.
> You don't even trust these devices yourself.
A keylogger like you originally brought up is different than a device built to listen inside your home. I'm talking to you about your imaginary friend.... er keylogger. Stay on topic. You don't seem to grasp the tech very well so I especially want you staying on 1 topic.
> which you claim to have reverse engineered and found nothing bad in them.
I never claimed I did that. I asserted the code is right there, free tools exist, what PE file and what address are you specifically concerned about? I do claim I can open it up and follow along.
You can open any portion of windows including the kernel in a free disassembler like idapro or ghidra and look at how it works. Projects like ReactOS have even reversed engineered back to source.
> A keyboard driver does not need cloud connectivity to work, only reason to have such connection is to steal your personal data.
Sure, so which specific driver shuts off your mouse when the internet goes down?
> This is all embedded into the driver or service itself and won't be a file named russianhackerkeylogger.exe hidden somewhere.
OK, embedded in to a function, sure, but you can still open up and show me that function and tell me how it works.
> The burden of evidence is not on me, we have consumer protection laws here in the developed word were companies must prove that they do not collect or sell customer data.
But you say you found a keylogger, so..... where? What PE file (that's a exe dll or sys file they are all the same type)
> Your attitude is what causes you to buy a (((smart))) home, controlled remotely by Alexa or Google,
I don't have a smart home. In fact Alexa and the like are not allowed in the house.
> the fact that they listen to everything you say isn't even your biggest worry. One day someone will report you for racism
This is different than the keylogger, stick to the original topic. I think you might just be a tinfoil hat guy who doesn't actually know how things work.
So.... yeah which PE file and what address does the keylogging occur at that you found?
And yet here you are, fanatically defending proprietary software as if every average Joe out there knows exactly how to reverse engineer anything and review millions of lines of code for built in stuff that fucks you the end user over in various ways.
I also find it hilarious that even tho you try to convince everyone that I'm wrong about how these things fuck over the end users in various ways, you don't even trust these devices yourself. You know that I'm right, otherwise you would have used these proprietary products yourself which you claim to have reverse engineered and found nothing bad in them. 🤡🌎
Nope, just asking you to show evidence. You can't just claim software does something therefore it does - It's not magic.
And again, projects have reversed windows to source - ReactOS. So if you need the hand holding you can look through that to find your imaginary keylogger.
> I also find it hilarious that even tho you try to convince everyone that I'm wrong about how these things
You just provide 0 evidence. It's literally all "well this over here" and tin foil hat shit. Put up or shut up. Could they add a keylogger? Sure. Do people reverse every single update coming from msft - yes. I personality know some who do.
> You don't even trust these devices yourself.
A keylogger like you originally brought up is different than a device built to listen inside your home. I'm talking to you about your imaginary friend.... er keylogger. Stay on topic. You don't seem to grasp the tech very well so I especially want you staying on 1 topic.
> which you claim to have reverse engineered and found nothing bad in them.
I never claimed I did that. I asserted the code is right there, free tools exist, what PE file and what address are you specifically concerned about? I do claim I can open it up and follow along.