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If you found that, companies have been sued and lost for much less
Not all keyloggers works the same, there's no standard or regulations for how to program a simple software to log keystrokes. These advanced keyboards usually support macros too, chances are they log keys using their own already established format.
Nowadays Windows itself is one big keylogger, categorizing everything you do, every file you save, every picture, screenshots regularly and read the ext from it only to organize it all into a forensics wet dream.
This keylogger could be in the driver itself and upload only the relevant data while "saving your profile" which would be their official excuse to offer cloud connection for a keyboard in the first place. This traffic would be encrypted, meaning you can't see anything out of the ordinary.
(((They))) are not only stealing your data, (((they))) even have the guts to make you do all the processing in searching through it and extract only relevant stuff, like personal data, credit card numbers, email, phone numbers etc to sell to pajeets.
These companies do this sort of fuckery because they know they will get away with it. A class action lawsuit requires proof of what data they send which means you'll have to break their encryption. It's impossible to win, and even if you do it's a fine of 0.02% of their yearly profit, which is nothing. The US have no consumer protection laws.
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> Not all keyloggers works the same
I know
> Nowadays Windows itself is one big keylogger, categorizing everything you do, every file you save, every picture, screenshots regularly and read the ext from it only to organize it all into a forensics wet dream.
An OS by definition captures keystrokes and gets them to programs. I'm ignoring the rest of the crap you said because I specifically asked about keylogging. Windows even has the setwindowshookex api which allows you to hook into low level keyboard i/o. So let's move this forward and get to your evidence.
> This traffic would be encrypted, meaning you can't see anything out of the ordinary.
Yet, you'd have the algorithm used, and the key used. You'd be able to NOP out the encryption and observe your keystrokes being sent out over the wire. Again. Where is that proof?
> which means you'll have to break their encryption.
You actually wouldn't have to. See above. The code running on your machine is there for anybody to investigate, with free tools. What PE file is this evil keylogger in?
So I'm guessing you don't have any evidence of this keylogging software.... and you have a wild imagination and you started with your conclusion.
This is all embedded into the driver or service itself and won't be a file named russianhackerkeylogger.exe hidden somewhere. The burden of evidence is not on me, we have consumer protection laws here in the developed word were companies must prove that they do not collect or sell customer data.
Companies collecting and selling your personal data isn't even the biggest threat, they won't search through it to steal your password. But the Russian hacker who gain access to the companies servers will, and the company may sell your phone number and email to pajeet scammers.
Your attitude is what causes you to buy a (((smart))) home, controlled remotely by Alexa or Google, the fact that they listen to everything you say isn't even your biggest worry. One day someone will report you for racism and suddenly you're locked out of your own home for weeks. That's how you get fucked. One day your "forever" mouse and keyboard will simply stop working because the company decided to ban you over a bullshit reason.
Just don't let (((them))) fuck you over stupid. Only buy products that you own and control yourself and stick to open source drivers.
You can open any portion of windows including the kernel in a free disassembler like idapro or ghidra and look at how it works. Projects like ReactOS have even reversed engineered back to source.
> A keyboard driver does not need cloud connectivity to work, only reason to have such connection is to steal your personal data.
Sure, so which specific driver shuts off your mouse when the internet goes down?
> This is all embedded into the driver or service itself and won't be a file named russianhackerkeylogger.exe hidden somewhere.
OK, embedded in to a function, sure, but you can still open up and show me that function and tell me how it works.
> The burden of evidence is not on me, we have consumer protection laws here in the developed word were companies must prove that they do not collect or sell customer data.
But you say you found a keylogger, so..... where? What PE file (that's a exe dll or sys file they are all the same type)
> Your attitude is what causes you to buy a (((smart))) home, controlled remotely by Alexa or Google,
I don't have a smart home. In fact Alexa and the like are not allowed in the house.
> the fact that they listen to everything you say isn't even your biggest worry. One day someone will report you for racism
This is different than the keylogger, stick to the original topic. I think you might just be a tinfoil hat guy who doesn't actually know how things work.
So.... yeah which PE file and what address does the keylogging occur at that you found?
And yet here you are, fanatically defending proprietary software as if every average Joe out there knows exactly how to reverse engineer anything and review millions of lines of code for built in stuff that fucks you the end user over in various ways.
I also find it hilarious that even tho you try to convince everyone that I'm wrong about how these things fuck over the end users in various ways, you don't even trust these devices yourself. You know that I'm right, otherwise you would have used these proprietary products yourself which you claim to have reverse engineered and found nothing bad in them. 🤡🌎